View Full Version : I need a "majano anemone" eater
Dk Coral
05/21/2003, 04:42 AM
Hi there.....
My tank is being plagued by majano anemones. They are every where, even places where i cant reach. I know that i could take up all my live rock and try to remove them manualy - but this would just be such a major job for me.....
Many of them are in such little holes in the rocks that i couldnt be sure of which or which not i have removed them entirely if i hat done it by hand....
So PLEASEEEE tell me that there are some sort of creature out there that will eat this pest anemone !!! I have been told that a Copperband Butterfly maybe could do the job for me but is this true.........
Thanks in advance -
The owner of 50-60 Majano anemones....
Brian - Denmark...
K. Lee
05/21/2003, 04:46 AM
Peppermint shrimp might eat them, but, I have no experience with this, same with camelback shrimp, but camelbacks are definately not reef-safe.
Nanook
05/21/2003, 05:01 AM
I have tens of THOUSANDS of them. I have a Raccoon Butterflyfish and Bicolor Angelfish that are going to town on these evil spawns. Both of these fish are really NOT reef safe though...they might eat corals, nip at clams, etc...but they are BOTH eating the majanos.
Nanook:hammer: :hammer:
Dk Coral
05/21/2003, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by Nanook
I have tens of THOUSANDS of them. I have a Raccoon Butterflyfish and Bicolor Angelfish that are going to town on these evil spawns. Both of these fish are really NOT reef safe though...they might eat corals, nip at clams, etc...but they are BOTH eating the majanos.
Nanook:hammer: :hammer:
THANKS THANKS AND THANKS........... Just what i needed to hear.......... Copperband Butterfly here i come.......
Hope that is just as hungry as your Racoon and Bicolor... :-D
Nanook
05/21/2003, 05:26 AM
Uh, I have a Copperband Butterflyfish in the tank as well. It has been with me for some time now, unfortunately, that fish does NOT eat the anemone majanos. I would recommend a Copperband Butterflyfish for Aiptasia...but not majanos.
Nanook
Dk Coral
05/21/2003, 05:44 AM
Hmmmm crap.......... I also have aipastia - a lot - but not as much as majanos...........
I really dont now what to do............
Nanook
05/21/2003, 05:48 AM
Peppermint shrimp work fine for smaller aiptasias...the bigger ones are going to need to be kalked by you or eaten by an aiptasia eater. I bought my CBB initially for Aiptasia that were out of control....now they are gone and kept in check in the main tank...that fish is really cool! The Raccoon is a cool fish too...just not reefsafe from many reefer's experience. The size of your tank has to factor into this equation as well....both of these fish can grow pretty large.
Nanook
Dk Coral
05/21/2003, 05:59 AM
I only have a 470 Liter tank.......... Right now its stockt whit 1 purple tang - 2 clowns - a yellow watchman goby and a green chromis......
So maybe the best thing to do would be adding some shrimps for the aipastia and a bicolor or Racoon for the majanos..... Which would you recomment of these 2........
I dont have a lot of corals - se my tank here http://www.saftkongen.dk/reef.jpg
JerseyReef
05/21/2003, 06:40 AM
I'd go with the Bi-Color Angel not the Raccoon. Bi-Color worked better for me in the past. Secondly, majano makes up a large part of the Bi-Color natural diet.
Nanook
05/21/2003, 06:43 AM
Well, if you can get a healthy Bicolor Angel, that would fit better in your tank and be less likely to damage your soft corals in the future. The trick is to get a healthy one, then the other concern is that they may be obligate feeders on anemone majanos...what if you run out? Will it eat other foods and stay healthy. FWIW, my Bicolor is eating mysis and Prime Reef at present and eats the majanos. It is kind of a crapshoot IMO. If it was me, I would try the Bicolor Angel first, they are stunningly gorgeous fish and stay small. Raccoons are just too darn ornery.
BTW, nice tank you have there!! Those are some large soft corals.
Nanook
Dk Coral
05/21/2003, 07:28 AM
So this should help me out :
1x Bicolor for its stunning beaty and its ability to eat the majanos
2-3x Pepperminth shrimp for the aiptasia
Thanks all..... And thanks on the remark on my tank:rollface:
drewby07
05/21/2003, 07:43 AM
Hi all,
Bryan,
IME...the best eater of the mojanos that I've ever seen is the chocolate chip starfish. I had one of these in a 30g. with about 75 of these buggers and they were all gone within a month. I didn't have any corals at the time, so i don't know the risk to them. It seemed to me that the choco's would sit right on top of the mojano and expel their stomach over the anemone and digest it. Maybe they only eat things smaller than themselves? If you're ready to try an angel, perhaps you should try this route first and see what happens.
HTH!!
Dk Coral
05/21/2003, 07:48 AM
Hmmm thanks but no thanks..... ;) This cute-looking little starfish is nonetheless rarely considered reef safe. Best left in a tank without corals, it is otherwise peaceful towards fish and invert tankmates.......
I think that the Angelfish would do best in my tank....
gregt
05/21/2003, 07:52 AM
it is otherwise peaceful towards fish and invert tankmates.......
I wouldn't even say that. I've had one kill a pair of false clowns. I didn't believe it until I saw it trying to get the replacements. It was laying upside down stretching out it's tentacles and waving them around while the clown was settling in as if it were an anemone. :eek1:
PerryinCA
05/21/2003, 09:46 AM
I have had great success with Red Sea Butterfly Racoons. Although not reef safe, they made quick work of my problem.
-Perry
Phillips
05/21/2003, 11:28 AM
Do Bicolor Angels eat mushrooms?
blgreef
05/21/2003, 01:35 PM
any pics of Mojanos???
bobby2400
05/21/2003, 07:08 PM
Here you go
Dk Coral
05/22/2003, 02:01 AM
So to make some sort of conclusion on the topic :
The best way to get rid of these majano anemones when you have to many to take out by hand is :
Racoon Butterfly fish or Bicolor Angel fish
Am i correct.......... I guess i just have to test one of these then !!! Even do i would love to have one of these beautiful fish in my tank - i am still affraid of the fact that these fish aint quite reef safe... But then again i havent got that many corals - so now is a good time to try......
blgreef
05/22/2003, 02:51 AM
blast have a few of thes in my tank:(
looks like the Kalk is comming backout
Dk Coral
05/22/2003, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by blgreef
blast have a few of thes in my tank:(
looks like the Kalk is comming backout
I can only say - GET RID OF THEM - They multiply FAST..........
JerseyReef
05/22/2003, 05:29 AM
Sorry guys - Kalk is known not to be the best killer of majano. These guys are quite a bit harder to kill than their cousin.
warren thomas
05/22/2003, 06:37 AM
i have a lot of mojono also. trying to get them off the rock is a pain. i started using ( stop aptasia ) it works good for me i have my reef cramed into a 55 gall so i cant reach all of them but the ones i get wither away and usually fall of the rock in a day or two . i would try to get the bigger ones first before they split .
64Ivy
05/22/2003, 06:54 AM
Is it just the Bicolor that will eat Majanos or will other Centropyge angels eat them also ? Sorry to piggy-back.
gregt
05/22/2003, 07:06 AM
I can guarantee you Coral Beauties do not. At least I know one that doesn't touch them.
forbze16
05/22/2003, 07:22 AM
Flame angels don't either. I have a couple. I even Kalk'd them but they still came back. Tough son-of-a-guns.....
The only luck I've had is that they don't spread very quickly in my system.
Tagging along for ideas....
Dk Coral
05/22/2003, 07:24 AM
Bicolor Angelfish............. I think that is the solution for this problem.......... I hevent tried my self - but im going to.....
kevinpo
05/22/2003, 07:25 AM
Hi Michael,
My juvenile navarchus wiped a colony I had out.
Regards,
Kevin
Dk Coral
05/22/2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by 64Ivy
Is it just the Bicolor that will eat Majanos or will other Centropyge angels eat them also ? Sorry to piggy-back.
I would like some follow ups on this question too..... Just before i order a Bicolor Angel for my majano pleague.....
mnreefman
05/22/2003, 01:29 PM
i have a coral beauty who does not eat them, my perperment shrimp do.
Dk Coral
05/22/2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by mnreefman
i have a coral beauty who does not eat them, my perperment shrimp do.
Does your pepperminth shrimp eat Mjanos.......... Dont they only eat aipastia...
JerseyReef
05/22/2003, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by 64Ivy
Is it just the Bicolor that will eat Majanos or will other Centropyge angels eat them also ? Sorry to piggy-back.
64 - I've never seen any other Centropyge eat majano. Bi-Color was the only success I've had. Nanook mentioned Raccon's as well, I've never had one so I couldn't comment. There was a thread a very long time ago where it was mentioned that the stomach contents of Bi-Color caught in the Gulf showed high levels of majano. This could explain the poor survival rates of this fish in captivity. You may be faced with long term survival issues once the majano are gone. I gave mine to friend who having the same problem.
It's a stunning fish if healthy...There's absolutely nothing else that really works on majano's. It laughs at Kalk treatments, peppermints won't touch them. The only saving grace, they don't spread as fast aptasia.
reefcam
05/22/2003, 03:13 PM
This is great new for me, as I had to tear my tank apart to have them come back again. the only question I have, since my tank is heavily stocked with SPS, LPS, mushrooms and zoos. Should I remove some of the mushrooms and zoos or will they be safe until all the Majanos are gone. The only LPS I have are the hammer head corals. Oh, I do have a Yellow Leather too.
Thanks
Phage
05/22/2003, 03:30 PM
This past week, I had a loaned raccoon butterfly take out *hundreds* of majanos. He went on a killing spree!! He also tried to eat my GOB (which i built a little cage around out of eggcrate) and my mushrooms (which luckily were growing like weeds anyway, and he just pruned them for me). So, be careful and watch them, but they definitely do the job. Also, he did most of his anemone eating at night, mainly picked at teh GOB/mushrooms during day, dont know why...
reefcam
05/22/2003, 04:32 PM
Oh sorry, I meant Bi-color Angel. Need some fish to target feed and not be too distructive.
fixmgood
05/22/2003, 05:24 PM
I also had the plague.....they multiplied faster than rabbits.I tried quite a few things to no avail.i then had the pleasure of meeting Charles Delbeek and asked him for advise,which I took.Raccoon Butterfly.Purchased one and within a week I was rid of the pests and have not seen any since
:D
BiG_KiD
05/22/2003, 05:53 PM
can someone post of pic of aipastia I think I might have some.. They look like Ricordia mushrooms with a red base and a clear cap with little white balls there is probally about 10 that i see but they are very small still.. I don't know what they are I didn't even think about it till i started reading this thread and others concerning aipastia Thanks
Dk Coral
05/26/2003, 04:05 AM
So just to summit up on all the replys.......... Which fish would people go for if they should wipe out majanos :
1) Bicolor Angel fish
2) Racoon Butterfly fish
Please reply - cause right now i dont now which of these to purchase.....
JerseyReef
05/26/2003, 06:29 AM
I've had success with Bi-Color Angel, so guess I could be biased. However, there are cons with each fish.
Bi-Color
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It's really hard to find a healthy specimen
They may need special diet requirements, i.e. majano
Really prone to ich, prolly related to diet and/or stress
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Raccoon
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Can be very aggressive
May present issues with soft corals
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Hope this helps...
Nanook
05/26/2003, 07:11 AM
They both work, I would go with the least destructive of the two, ie the Bicolor Angelfish. I got mine from Quality Marine due to their great reputation for healthy fish. I also have the Racoon in the tank....they both eat them, the Bicolor is smaller and prettier...plus the least destructive of the two fish, IMO.
Nanook
saltyseaman
05/26/2003, 05:09 PM
I have a horrible Majano plaque in my 125. There must be 200 in there, no joke. Reading through these threads on Majano's I was considering getting a Bicolor. I was also considering getting some hydrochloric acid. Another consideration was to get some White vinegar. Since today is memorial day and I had nothing exciting to do I went to the grocery store (since it was the only thing open) and got some $.79 White vinegar. I got home and filled the syringe. I did one round and came back for another. Not even five minutes later the majanos were falling out of their holes with the aid of a fingernail file. They were easily removed and looked pretty dead to me. I just wanted to share with you all this experience and let you all know that it DOES appear to work. If you do a search through RC you will find more people have done the same. HTH & Good Luck!!!!:blown: :thumbsup:
GSchiemer
05/26/2003, 05:56 PM
First of all, any fish or invertebrate that eats majano anemones is also going to harass desirable corals, clams, etc. Period.
Having said that, the most reliable majano-eater than I've seen is the butterflyfish, Chaetodon ulietensis.
Greg
JasonE
06/06/2003, 02:30 PM
I'm adding a juvenile ulietensis tonight. I'm mostly acros, no clams, but do have cynarinas and ricordias.
I figure if I'm gonna lose my corals either way, I might as well risk it.
Will keep you posted.
Dk Coral
06/08/2003, 10:00 AM
Im gettin my BiColor tomorrow and ill also keep ya all posted on the result........ I have the same thoughts about these anemone eating fish - i dont care if its the majano anemones or a fish that eats up everything in my tank........ So its for me worth to trye
GSchiemer
06/08/2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Brian Slot
Im gettin my BiColor tomorrow and ill also keep ya all posted on the result........ I have the same thoughts about these anemone eating fish - i dont care if its the majano anemones or a fish that eats up everything in my tank........ So its for me worth to trye
A couple of words on bicolor angelfish: Very few adapt well to captivity. I'd be sure to see it eating VIGOROUSLY before purchasing this fish. I have a bicolor in a 40 gallon hex reef aquarium. It picks at EVERYTHING, EXCEPT the one majano anemone in the tank. I've left the anemone in there just to see if the bicolor would eat it. Bicolor angels are pretty nasty fish. They'll harass just about any fish that's placed in the aquarium after them, especially other Centropyge species angels! Lastly, they're tough to catch in a reef aquarium.
I recommend AGAINST purchasing this fish for majano anemone control, especially since there are better alternatives in fish for this purpose.
Greg
reefcam
06/08/2003, 12:16 PM
Okay, had the bi-color in a tank infested majano by itself, along with xenia, toadstool and mushrooms. It's been 2 weeks and nada. All majano still accounted for. The bi-color angel is eating the algae and frozen brine.
Greg, what other better alternatives are there? I've tried calc paste, hot water injection, and strontium injection. And they just pop back. The best solution I have is to remove the rock and do a fresh water dip, then scrub, the recure. Not a good solution, but 100% full proof.
I'm thinking about getting a Racoon Butterfly.
GSchiemer
06/08/2003, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by reefcam
Okay, had the bi-color in a tank infested majano by itself, along with xenia, toadstool and mushrooms. It's been 2 weeks and nada. All majano still accounted for. The bi-color angel is eating the algae and frozen brine.
Greg, what other better alternatives are there? I've tried calc paste, hot water injection, and strontium injection. And they just pop back. The best solution I have is to remove the rock and do a fresh water dip, then scrub, the recure. Not a good solution, but 100% full proof.
I'm thinking about getting a Racoon Butterfly.
As I metioned earlier in the thread, the butterflyfish, Chaetodon ulietensis, is almost guaranteed to eat majano anemones. Some other butterflies will eat them as well, but none are really reef-safe. The best chemical control is to inject them with muriatic acid. If it doesn't obliterate them immediately, they usually fall off the rock and are easy to siphon out. Be careful with this acid! Check your alkalinity before using it and your pH while using it.
Greg
Dk Coral
06/08/2003, 12:38 PM
Arggggg ........:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
It was me how startet this thread - and i most say that there has been a lot of nice replys.... I guess that i had hoped for something like 20 replys which all had the same answer - "Like buy this fish....and so on"
But now when im 24 hours away from bying a Bicolor im gettin cold feet. Some of the replys on this subject are about how well every thing turn out so good whit a biColor - and some are on how i didnt do the job at all !!!
I live in Denmark at a place where i cant just go down the road and buy any fish i want. Theres no way to buy over the internet and get it by mail to my doorstep...... There for i have to be sure on this subject before i do something insane. I have had my tank for 3 month only and im therefore all new on all this !!
You can see some pics from my tank here : http://home1.stofanet.dk/brianslot/Pix/index.html
All the pics a new and the only thing that i dont have any more are the Sea Urchin which there are some pics of......
Please do so and comment on how my tank would do whit a BiColor.
Thanks
Please
gregt
06/08/2003, 12:40 PM
Brian, if I were in your shoes, I would try the muratic acid suggestion above before buying a fish.
Dk Coral
06/08/2003, 12:44 PM
I have maybe 100 anemones - on the rocks - under the rocks - on the pipe work - on the glass.......... Trust me i will never get rid of them whit a needle whit something in it......... That would be a major work and there would defently be som left.......
64Ivy
06/08/2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by JasonE
I'm adding a juvenile ulietensis tonight. I'm mostly acros, no clams, but do have cynarinas and ricordias.
I figure if I'm gonna lose my corals either way, I might as well risk it.
Will keep you posted.
So how's it going?
ReefMon
06/08/2003, 04:19 PM
I too had/have a major majano problem.
I had a Raccoon Butterfly Chaetodon lunula who within seconds of introducing into my tank was attacking them with gusto. I left him in the 90 with SPS & soft corals for several months with no signs of it picking on anything other than the majanos. I then moved him into my 180 display, this system has SPS, clams & LPS corals. It was never seen bothering anything other than the majanos.
Problem is it ate 90% of the anemone, so when he was removed from the system they just grew back. Although it appeared he was eating frozen foods, he disappeared one weekend
while I was out of town.
I tried muriatic acid once, pulled a rock and blasted a bunch of them, rinsed and replaced in the tank, only to find them still thriving the next day.
So I now have 3 tanks containing thousands of the buggers, and I will try another raccoon, but I've read many more reports of raccoons not working than successful reports.
http://www.bdfleetmgt.com/gmr/center.jpg
Happy Reefing
Glenn R
JasonE
06/08/2003, 09:02 PM
well, it's been 24 hrs (give me chance already, Michael!!)
On introduction he took a taste of nearly every coral, polyps especially, but he is taking a liking to the majanos too. Too early to tell what the damage will be...One thing for sure, I'm not getting this guy out easily
64Ivy
06/09/2003, 05:49 PM
Okay. So NOW how's it going? :D
Dk Coral
06/09/2003, 11:40 PM
I were supposed to get my BiColor yesterday - Guess what...... i didnt get it...... The LFS hat told me that they would get some on there next 6000 unit shipment - but all they got where sails, sea stars and so on...only 30 % out of 6000 units where fish.....damn.....
JasonE
06/10/2003, 05:14 AM
Well, its a little hard to tell.
Majanos are still there, no corals have been destroyed.
I see him pick at this and that, but nothing really voraciously. More like a glancing blow as he swims by.
Rather an anticlimax!
Gary Majchrzak
09/03/2005, 07:32 AM
So NOW what's the outcome, Jason? :D :D
kiddkraigrrr
09/03/2005, 07:49 AM
I have used Joe's juice and it works fine.....
JasonE
09/04/2005, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Gary Majchrzak
So NOW what's the outcome, Jason? :D :D
Jeez...well I found that the best Majano solution was the black out of two years ago :D I was up your way recently, Gary, stopped by to see Tom's place (which I LOVED).
Get any tilefish yet??
Gary Majchrzak
09/04/2005, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by JasonE
Jeez...well I found that the best Majano solution was the black out of two years ago :D I was up your way recently, Gary, stopped by to see Tom's place (which I LOVED).
Get any tilefish yet??
OUCH! I'd heard through the grapevine that particular storm hit your aquariums, Jason. Sorry about that.
Tom's place is great- I frequent it on lunch break.
Next time your in town, make sure to contact me in advance and c'mon over.
No Tilefish yet. :D
As an aside, I have a Navarchus Angelfish in my reef aquarium.
It don't know if this one eats Majano because I've never had any Majano.
I DO know that my Navarchus doesn't eat "Tulip" anemones, mini carpet anemones, Aiptasia, curly-Q's or large anemonefish hosting anemones.
It did eat my prized Cynarina.
I found this thread because I'm interested in finding out more info on C. ulietensis in reef aquariums.
LittleBlueGT
09/26/2006, 04:11 PM
Anybody else have any experiences getting rid of this pest?
Did the bi-color work for anybody else?
Buddyboy
09/26/2006, 04:46 PM
What about a black longspine urchin? I hear that they munch on hair algae, etc. Anyone have any experiences with them eating small, pest anemones?
MikeD
03/28/2007, 05:33 AM
Blow torch idea from another thread...
MikeD
04/02/2007, 12:12 AM
Also, I'd like to know if they eat the anemone and actually get RID of them or if they just eat parts and leave the rest to regenerate...
Fishpalace
09/28/2014, 11:22 AM
Hi, a very old thread however I have a "majano anemone" and need to get rid of it before it spreads.
http://[URL=http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/skyhammer1000/media/IMG_0088_zpse4045104.jpg.html]http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t541/skyhammer1000/IMG_0088_zpse4045104.jpg[/IMG
My tank is only 3 weeks into first cycle so considering removing the affected rock, put it in salt water and treat it. Been to 2 LFS and both have recommended Red Sea Aiptasia x.
One also had a a chocolate chip starfish which has been mentioned above so a consideration although they eat coral so would need to think carefully before I buy and not sure if it would be the answer?
Can anyone help?
Gary Majchrzak
09/28/2014, 01:49 PM
Hi, a very old thread however I have a "majano anemone" and need to get rid of it before it spreads.
http://[URL=http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/skyhammer1000/media/IMG_0088_zpse4045104.jpg.html]http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t541/skyhammer1000/IMG_0088_zpse4045104.jpg[/IMG
My tank is only 3 weeks into first cycle so considering removing the affected rock, put it in salt water and treat it. Been to 2 LFS and both have recommended Red Sea Aiptasia x.
One also had a a chocolate chip starfish which has been mentioned above so a consideration although they eat coral so would need to think carefully before I buy and not sure if it would be the answer?
Can anyone help?take rock out and torch the anemone
hkgar
09/28/2014, 02:29 PM
Mine are gone and I had a bunch. I solved it with getting a Matted File fish and going after the ones I could get to with Kalk paste.
Cannot find one in my tank now. I also used a Majano wand.
Fishpalace
09/28/2014, 03:19 PM
take rock out and torch the anemone
What do you mean by torch it?
fishies7
09/28/2014, 07:58 PM
I know this isn't practical for most people, but I went to Long Island, NY and collected a school of twin spot butterflies (Caribbean orphans) and proceeded to feed them, rock by rock, my mojano covered live rock. They picked them clean, and a year later, not a single one has grown back!
tc2007
09/28/2014, 10:23 PM
Hi there.....
My tank is being plagued by majano anemones. They are every where, even places where i cant reach. I know that i could take up all my live rock and try to remove them manualy - but this would just be such a major job for me.....
Many of them are in such little holes in the rocks that i couldnt be sure of which or which not i have removed them entirely if i hat done it by hand....
So PLEASEEEE tell me that there are some sort of creature out there that will eat this pest anemone !!! I have been told that a Copperband Butterfly maybe could do the job for me but is this true.........
Thanks in advance -
The owner of 50-60 Majano anemones....
Brian - Denmark...
I am surprised no one mentioned FileFish yet! I just added a matted filefish for Aiptasia and Mojano (I only have 2 small ones). He hasn't touched it so far, it's day 3 now. Will report back if he eats them but other people have had success with it.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2216639
D-Nak
09/28/2014, 11:08 PM
I have majanos and my matted filefish eats them. I QTed the filefish for a couple of weeks and added liverock with majanos on them, and they all slowly disappeared. However, now that the filefish is in my DT, the problem is that it prefers the food that I feed my tank. I am worried that the majanos will grow faster than the filefish will/can eat them. Only time will tell if it can actually take care of all of the majanos.
Gary Majchrzak
09/29/2014, 06:22 AM
I have majanos and my matted filefish eats them. I QTed the filefish for a couple of weeks and added liverock with majanos on them, and they all slowly disappeared. However, now that the filefish is in my DT, the problem is that it prefers the food that I feed my tank. I am worried that the majanos will grow faster than the filefish will/can eat them. Only time will tell if it can actually take care of all of the majanos.
X2
Torch = heat. Try a Bernzomatic.
wildman926
09/29/2014, 08:16 AM
Kleins butterfly. My tank was infested, overgrown with them. I purchased one, and after almost a week, they were all gone. Now, it eats anything I feed the other fish. Never touches my LPS's. I have a rock with some in my other tank. I am going to put it in the tank with the Kleins and see if it will take care of business again.
Fishpalace
09/29/2014, 09:43 AM
I am surprised no one mentioned FileFish yet! I just added a matted filefish for Aiptasia and Mojano (I only have 2 small ones). He hasn't touched it so far, it's day 3 now. Will report back if he eats them but other people have had success with it.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2216639
Very interested to hear if your filefish solves the problem
xrayjeeper83
09/29/2014, 09:46 AM
My filefish ate almost all my aiptasia, then started to go after my lions. Ended up in my sump
Fishpalace
09/29/2014, 03:00 PM
Decided to take rock out of tank and move to a bucket of saltwater.
Placed in a boiling bucket of water for 10 mins and then moved to a bucket of RO water and now sitting in my shed in saltwater. Did this in the garden as I have read threads where rock give off a toxin and can be poisonous.
Will put back into tank tomorrow, hope rock hasn't died as might trigger a mini cycle.
Gary Majchrzak
09/29/2014, 03:22 PM
Everything living on and in liverock is killed when you boil it.
Fishpalace
09/30/2014, 04:41 AM
Everything living on and in liverock is killed when you boil it.
I have put rock back into tank and taken dead bits off so trying to avoid a mini cycle.
Despite boiling for 10 mins algae seems to have increased and is alive.
Will check tonight to ensure all is well
johnike
09/30/2014, 04:46 AM
A Kleini Butterfly wiped mine out.
wildman926
09/30/2014, 08:09 AM
Kleins butterfly. My tank was infested, overgrown with them. I purchased one, and after almost a week, they were all gone. Now, it eats anything I feed the other fish. Never touches my LPS's. I have a rock with some in my other tank. I am going to put it in the tank with the Kleins and see if it will take care of business again.
A Kleini Butterfly wiped mine out.
I put that one rock that had mejanos on it from my 90g into my 150g that has my Kleins butterfly. They were all gone within 30 min. And he still ate my Mysis and flake food later in the evening.
wildman926
09/30/2014, 08:11 AM
Decided to take rock out of tank and move to a bucket of saltwater.
Placed in a boiling bucket of water for 10 mins and then moved to a bucket of RO water and now sitting in my shed in saltwater. Did this in the garden as I have read threads where rock give off a toxin and can be poisonous.
Will put back into tank tomorrow, hope rock hasn't died as might trigger a mini cycle.
I have put rock back into tank and taken dead bits off so trying to avoid a mini cycle.
Despite boiling for 10 mins algae seems to have increased and is alive.
Will check tonight to ensure all is well
It is not the algae that someone pointed out in dying. It is the important bacteria that makes the rock "live" is what he was referring to.
uncleL
09/30/2014, 08:23 AM
The chemical used for the Majano removal
The chemical I used to remove the Majano anemones was calcium hydroxide. It is commonly referred to as Kalk wasser, Kalk, and Pickling Lime. I bought my calcium hydroxide as Pickling lime in the canning section of the grocery store for about $5.
Other items that you will need to perform this process of anemone removal is a small bowl or container that you will use for mixing and an applicator to apply the paste. The applicator I used was a pipette but anything like a syringe or turkey baster will work.
The process of Majano removal with calcium hydroxide
First - Get the aquarium ready by turning off the power heads and pumps. It is much easier to apply the paste in an aquarium with no current. You also reduce the risk of harming anything other than the majanos.
Second - Mix the Calcium Hydroxide powder with just enough water to make a thick paste like the consistency of toothpaste but just a little thinner.
Third – Apply the paste over the whole majano using your applicator.
Fourth – Turn the power-heads and pumps back on after approximately 30 minutes. Watch to make sure that none of the paste lands on any corals and if it does blow it off quickly so they are not harmed.
Important: Concentrated Calcium Hydroxide is a medium strength base and will kill or severely injury anything it is applied to. Also, attempting to apply this solution to too many majanos at once may have a negative affect on the pH and alkalinity within your reef tank and the paste will be harder to control when the pumps are turned back on.
Remember that waiting to remove a majano anemone will just make the problem worse in the future and in some aquarium very quickly.
tc2007
10/02/2014, 10:12 AM
Very interested to hear if your filefish solves the problem
So it's day 5 with the matted filefish and one of the mojanos is gone. couple of aiptasias are also gone. there maybe some damage to my green polyp star but I don't know for sure if he caused it.
D-Nak
10/02/2014, 10:49 AM
The chemical used for the Majano removal
The chemical I used to remove the Majano anemones was calcium hydroxide. It is commonly referred to as Kalk wasser, Kalk, and Pickling Lime. I bought my calcium hydroxide as Pickling lime in the canning section of the grocery store for about $5.
Other items that you will need to perform this process of anemone removal is a small bowl or container that you will use for mixing and an applicator to apply the paste. The applicator I used was a pipette but anything like a syringe or turkey baster will work.
Important: Concentrated Calcium Hydroxide is a medium strength base and will kill or severely injury anything it is applied to. Also, attempting to apply this solution to too many majanos at once may have a negative affect on the pH and alkalinity within your reef tank and the paste will be harder to control when the pumps are turned back on.
I would NOT recommend a turkey baster to apply the kalk paste. You're trying to use just enough to kill the nem, either by injecting it or smothering it. Using a turkey baster could potentially do more damage than had you left the nem alone in the first place.
sneeyatch
10/02/2014, 02:55 PM
One of the best things I've used in the past is pickling crisp (Calcium Chloride), not pickling lime (Calcium Hydroxide).
You can mix the chloride with water in a very concentrated amount and it will dissolve in the water, and if I remember correctly, it gets really warm / hot.
Turn off all the pumps and let the water settle, then use a syringe to gently drizzle the solution over the aiptasia. You will see it in the water like fresh water being added to that spot. A concentrated gentle drizzling instantly causes the tentacles to recede and it appears to make them hard or stiff and they can't retract into their spot. At that point, I used to inject them and fill them with the stuff and they almost explode never to be seen again.
tc2007
10/25/2014, 07:13 PM
So before in this thread I had mentioned that my filefish had been eating aiptaisa and mojana too. In 1 month, all the aiptaisa and mojano have been cleaned up. Since I dont feed the filefish (it showed no interested in pellet food) it has now started to chump on the zoa's. Honestly I would rather have the filefish over the zoas :)
Another problem is that the filefish has been eating the smaller buds coming out of my hammers.
AcroporAddict
10/25/2014, 08:14 PM
I pulled an acro colony out of my 465 a few days ago, and there were probably 10 mojanos under it, where they were pretty inaccessible. The second I pulled the colony, my Blue Line Angel swam in and started nipping on them like he was starving, and he is a fatty.
I used a concentrated sodium hydroxide on them and it destroyed them, but the Blue Line is prolly why I don't have any where he can reach in the tank.
karm40
12/26/2014, 06:33 PM
How about a Hydrogen Peroxide injection???
Reefski's
12/27/2014, 07:23 AM
One of the best things I've used in the past is pickling crisp (Calcium Chloride), not pickling lime (Calcium Hydroxide).
You can mix the chloride with water in a very concentrated amount and it will dissolve in the water, and if I remember correctly, it gets really warm / hot.
Turn off all the pumps and let the water settle, then use a syringe to gently drizzle the solution over the aiptasia. You will see it in the water like fresh water being added to that spot. A concentrated gentle drizzling instantly causes the tentacles to recede and it appears to make them hard or stiff and they can't retract into their spot. At that point, I used to inject them and fill them with the stuff and they almost explode never to be seen again.
anyone else have experience with CaCl or hydrogen peroxide?
i have a Kleins butterfly and Copperband that i have had for years. they have eaten all the aiptasia but not the Mojanos. a few months ago i got another small butterfly said to eat them. it does but my problem has only gotten worse. i think the fish may be pooping out frags of them that can then find new places in the tank to grow. they have overtaken several of the corals.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/reefski/_MG_5373_zps49261ba4.jpg (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/reefski/media/_MG_5373_zps49261ba4.jpg.html)
they have gotten worse since these photos were taken.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/reefski/_C1A8387_zps4bc528eb.jpg (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/reefski/media/_C1A8387_zps4bc528eb.jpg.html)
Gary Majchrzak
12/28/2014, 11:23 AM
What 3rd Butterfly did you add?
zhuiqu1979
11/07/2016, 12:06 PM
The both of fish i just bought they are not eat majano
mysticobra
11/07/2016, 12:36 PM
I have used JOE'S JUICE for years. It comes with a syringe and just a dab will do. Doesn't harm corals or any prep. Gets em deep in cracks and holes. I see it was mentioned in one post but not discussed. It simple easy and cheap.
Richard.
zhuiqu1979
11/07/2016, 02:25 PM
Are you bicolor eating your majano?
hkgar
11/07/2016, 02:35 PM
I have used JOE'S JUICE for years. It comes with a syringe and just a dab will do. Doesn't harm corals or any prep. Gets em deep in cracks and holes. I see it was mentioned in one post but not discussed. It simple easy and cheap.
Richard.
Right, doing it for years. That's why it pays to get a Majano eating fish. I got my Matted Filefish and haven't given Majanos a second thought since. Never see them.
Probably a bit of luck involved that it its Majanos but the odds are on your side.
hkgar
11/07/2016, 02:36 PM
The both of fish i just bought they are not eat majano
What two fish did you get and how long have they been in the tank?
zhuiqu1979
11/07/2016, 04:09 PM
bicolor angelfish AND copperband butterflyfish
zhuiqu1979
11/07/2016, 04:10 PM
What two fish did you get and how long have they been in the tank?
bicolor angelfish AND copperband butterflyfish
Buzz1329
11/07/2016, 06:19 PM
Peppermint shrimp work fine for smaller aiptasias...the bigger ones are going to need to be kalked by you or eaten by an aiptasia eater. I bought my CBB initially for Aiptasia that were out of control....now they are gone and kept in check in the main tank...that fish is really cool! The Raccoon is a cool fish too...just not reefsafe from many reefer's experience. The size of your tank has to factor into this equation as well....both of these fish can grow pretty large.
Nanook
Man, I wold love to have a CBB. My favorite fish beyond a doubt. I even have some aiptasias in my 180, which I'm viewing as an open invitation to add one. But the last 3 times I tried, they refused ALL food (live baby brine shrimp, live blackworms, four different types of FF, including LRF, mysis shrimp, Rod's), as well as assortment of dry foods. They just disappeared within a few weeks. I'm going to do a round of the LFSs in my area looking for one that will eat in the LFS tank.
Mike
tang named junkyard
01/17/2018, 12:31 PM
Aptaisia eating file fish eat them. I had one clear them out good
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