Show me your eels!!

[samdaman]

I want to get an eel, don't know which. Can you post pictures of your eels please!!

[hobogato]

zebra moray - has his own skunk cleaner shrimp now :)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/hobogato/aggressive%20reef/DSC06434.jpg

[samdaman]

Nice, I like it, how big is it?

[parrthed]

Here is mine getting ready to go into "beast mode" on some silversides:

[hobogato]

it is about two feet long

Nice, I like it, how big is it?

[nerdslogic]

how big will it get?

[nerdslogic]

parrthed, is that a dragon eel?

[hobogato]

biggest one i have seen was about three feet long.

how big will it get?

[samdaman]

Here is mine getting ready to go into "beast mode" on some silversides:

Nice, I saw one of those at my LFS a couple days ago...$900. How much was yours?

[parrthed]

Yep, Japanese dragon. I got a killer deal on it. I'd prefer not to say as I am really good friends with my LFS owner, I got it wholesale.

[olemiss reb]

japanese dragon
fimbriated
spotted

[helicoprion]

That fimbriated is stunning. How is your spotted? I've had two and they were both vicious.

My dragon & Koke
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_P1250620.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=P1250620.jpg)

My newest addition - Y-Bar Moray, G. ypsilon

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_IMAG0390.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=IMAG0390.jpg)

BTW - if you have the bucks, go with a dragon, one of my all around favorite morays.

[LukFox]

I love eel photo threads. Real lookers, everyone. :)

Only my smaller fimbriated would come out for pictures today.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/Sashahungry3.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/Sashahungry2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/Sashahungry1.jpg

[olemiss reb]

[QUOTE=helicoprion;17829305]That fimbriated is stunning. How is your spotted? I've had two and they were both vicious.

The spotted are the most aggressive that I've ever kept which makes feeding time pretty interesting. The larger of the pair seems to have figured out which part of the eggcrate opens and seems determined to remove one of my fingers. I'd say they are as vicious if not more so than tessies.

[samdaman]

Yep, Japanese dragon. I got a killer deal on it. I'd prefer not to say as I am really good friends with my LFS owner, I got it wholesale.

Lucky you, its all good :D I like the dragons. theyre amazing


I love eel photo threads. Real lookers, everyone. :)

Only my smaller fimbriated would come out for pictures today.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/Sashahungry3.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/Sashahungry2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/Sashahungry1.jpg

Nice! which others do you have?

Love all the pictures guys Eels are amazing creatures

[samdaman]

Do any of you hand feed it?

[LukFox]

Nice! which others do you have?

Love all the pictures guys Eels are amazing creatures

Right now it's just that girl and a larger fimbriated. I'll try to get pictures of that one when she gets hungry next time, as the pattern is very different.

I do not hand feed. I can't really put my hands in the tank as it is, but hopefully they'll calm down with age. If they do I still wouldn't hand feed, though.

[helicoprion]

[QUOTE=helicoprion;17829305]That fimbriated is stunning. How is your spotted? I've had two and they were both vicious.

The spotted are the most aggressive that I've ever kept which makes feeding time pretty interesting. The larger of the pair seems to have figured out which part of the eggcrate opens and seems determined to remove one of my fingers. I'd say they are as vicious if not more so than tessies.

I've actually gotten lucky on tessy's... my first moray was a tesselata species (I believe G. isingteena based on head shape) and it was actually really laid back... let me try to dig up a picture.

Right now it's just that girl and a larger fimbriated. I'll try to get pictures of that one when she gets hungry next time, as the pattern is very different.

I do not hand feed. I can't really put my hands in the tank as it is, but hopefully they'll calm down with age. If they do I still wouldn't hand feed, though.

Do you just call it she or do you have a way to sex it? Just curious :)

[LukFox]

Do you just call it she or do you have a way to sex it? Just curious :)



Fimbriateds are protogynous hermaphrodites. As mine are not adults yet, I'm assuming they're both female :). I hope to end up with a m/f pair in the end.

[LukFox]

Got some pictures of my other one today, the striped one this time. She's much more shy so it was a bit challenging, and it took a while to lure her out. The pictures are blurry, but nice enough imo anyway. I guess I just like the poses. I only wish I caught them both in focus.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/bothofthemarehungry.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/bothofthemarehungry2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/heavyishungry1.jpg

Funny to think the striped one was bite size only 3 months ago:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/fimbriated2.jpg

[billdogg]

Hannibal is ~ 4' long - A Gymnothorax Undulatus (Undulated Moray) that I got when he? was a tiny little guy of about 16". That was 22 or so years ago. He lives in a 150 with a very large hermit crab and a couple of cleaner shrimp. He has eaten every other thing I have put in with him. (Hence the name) I can't post any pictures right now - work blocks a lot of sites, but if I remember, I'll do it tonight.

Eels are interesting critters, but remember that they can easily live for well over 30 years in captivity. Be prepared to have them for a very long time.

[helicoprion]

Lukfox - I believe all morays start life as hermaphrodites... regardless those are great looking! Have I already asked you about their attitude? I had one fimby for a short period of time (tank had seam leak, had to give him away, never buy from glasscages).

Billdogg - I NEED to see pics of your undulated!!!! I'm thinking of doing a 240 at some point in the future and that would be at the top of my list. How is it's attitude? The fact that you've had him for 22 years is outstanding!

[LukFox]

<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=hCvTJJEkl8AC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=enchelycore+pardalis+hermaphrodites&source=bl&ots=w6AtkoIEso&sig=z2GFk3Ms8U5rhmnFO2UAKay9DDg&hl=en&ei=JWttTKX0MIaksQON0JjBCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=enchelycore%20pardalis%20hermaphrodites&f=false">This paper</a> details the different sexual conditions morays can have. I was so excited when I found this paper haha. It's right around the highlighted hermaphrodite area. The whole moray section is really worth a read or scan through.

Sorry to hear about the leaky tank! That must have been a huge hassle. So far my fimbies are a bit hard to work with. It was easier when I had just one. They go into feeding mode whenever I open the lids, and even after a good feeding they still come over to see what I'm doing and that makes me a bit nervous haha. I hope they calm down with age or get less interested when I'm cleaning the glass, as fending off two of them can be a little tricky.

[JackiB]

My fimby is still a beast! He is about 3ft and a terror. I love him to death though! My fingers do not go anywhere near that water unless he has just eaten and is full. Prior to me getting him he ate a lionfish. It is just him and his porky buddy, they do very well together.

[LukFox]

My fimby is still a beast! He is about 3ft and a terror. I love him to death though! My fingers do not go anywhere near that water unless he has just eaten and is full. Prior to me getting him he ate a lionfish. It is just him and his porky buddy, they do very well together.

Expected as much but hoped maybe they would change haha. Good to know, any pics??

[helicoprion]

That is an awesome resource lukfox... thanks!

[LukFox]

Glad to share it!

[slowwrx137]

LukFox, can you tell me more about the tank you have those 2 eels in? I've been wanting to setup an eel only tank and would love to setup something similar to yours with 2 eels.

[billdogg]

Its been awhile since i've posted a picture - did I get it right??? I guess we'll see!

[LukFox]

Love that undy!! Another one of my favorites. That guy is massive; you've taken great care of him.

Slowwrx137, they are currently in a 75g. No sump or skimmer. Filtration is up to the sand and rock, and there are some koralias for circulation. I had this set up handle a 35" thick bodied eel without issues before, but I'm not sure how it will handle two 30" eels together. When they get large enough to warrant it I'll be getting an Octopus lx-2000s I think, as a hang on skimmer. If that still doesn't cut it I could replace the 75g with a 120g, and the water should be able to be kept plenty clean with that. The tank has no lights (I put a 40 watt bulb over the tank just for the photos), but I have been thinking about changing that eventually. Lights are not necessary, though. The tank is super low maintenance and very simple. Hardly cost me anything to set it up. There are 5 nassarius snails, one skunk cleaner shrimp, and an army of pods to clean up the mess after feeding.

[billdogg]

Thanks. He's become my buddy, and as much as I look forward to making his tank into a SPS reef, I'll miss him when he goes.

As far as temperment and care....

I dare anybody to even wave your fingers above the tank when he is hungry. He has hit the eggcrate (held down by the lights and several large chunksof rock) hard enough to break it on several occasions. Without the tops, he will come about 12" out of the water to get to dinner. Dinner consists of 2 or three large (think bigger than my hand) ocean fish fillets from krogers, about every 2 weeks, the night before water changes. He has gone on hunger strikes, the longest was about 6 months.

He has been on the floor 3 or 4 times - twice long enough to actually become stiff. just picked him up and put him back in - within a few hours you'd never know anything had happened.

He has not bitten me ......................yet. After feeding, he will come to the top and just sorta hang out there. He seems to enjoy being petted, but I keep that to a minimum. If (when?) he does bite, it will be a degloving type injury that will require reconstructive surgery and a bunch of IV antibiotics. It will also mean that its time for him to be a belt. (just kidding?)

Water changes on his tank are large. His tank consists of a 150dt, a 120 fuge, and a 50g sump. I change ~ 50g at a time, and have never gotten the nitrates below 40. I don't even bother checking anymore - why bother?

[helicoprion]

Nice undy! Is he aggressive? I want one!!!!!

[iLLwiLL]

my zebra eel, almost 3' long.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/willpicardi/2010-08-17204420.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/willpicardi/2010-08-17204427.jpg

~Will.

[billdogg]

Aggressive??? LOL He can and will eat anything you try to put in with him. That's why his name is Hannibal. The first thing he ate was a four foot blue ribbon eel. He was only 16 - 18" at the time. Over the course of his first 2 or 3 years (until I quit trying) he also ate the largest yellow tang I have ever seen, several groupers, a couple large wrasses, and a dinner sized emperor snapper. These all came in when I worked PT at the LFS as customer trades that outgrew their welcome.

He can go from 0 to the other side of the tank faster than i can move my eyes. Hundreds of teeth all angle backwards. He won't let go once he's got you.

Wanna pet him???? :-)

[samdaman]

Nice eel will

[tcmfish]

Anyone see the show on morays on NatGeo WILD tonight on morays?!

[olemiss reb]

Anyone see the show on morays on NatGeo WILD tonight on morays?!

Do you remember the full title to the show. I'm trying to find it on my box so I can record a future epsiode.

[tcmfish]

Morays: The Alien Eels

[tcmfish]

I only caught about 15 min. but what a show! I'm not a huge eel fan, but they are cool fish. It even showed some courtship behavior toward the end with some big beasts (like 6 foot). I found that really interesting because I am very much into aquaculture. Some of the footage was pretty sweet.

[olemiss reb]

Thanks, my dvr is set.

[tozzi]

my zebra eel, almost 3' long.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/willpicardi/2010-08-17204420.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/willpicardi/2010-08-17204427.jpg

~Will.

Nice zebra. How is it in the reef? I have a loaded reef with sps, id like to get a eel but im afraid of it snapping too many branches? And flippin over too many frags

[LukFox]

Morays: The Alien Eels

Of course they had to make it sound threatening. I'd expect that of Animal Planet, but to see Nat Geo doing it too is disappointing. :/ Just so tired of nature shows telling me to fear and hate everything. To those who saw it, does it exaggerate how "dangerous" and scary they are constantly? Trying to figure if it's worth the time to watch or if most of it is just to shock and scare the audience.

[tcmfish]

No not at all, it showed a moray hunting shrimp. It showed the moray in the other eel thread right now. The very rare one. It showed grouper and morays hunting together and using teamwork. It showed courtship behavior also. But I didn't catch much of the show.

[LukFox]

No not at all, it showed a moray hunting shrimp. It showed the moray in the other eel thread right now. The very rare one. It showed grouper and morays hunting together and using teamwork. It showed courtship behavior also. But I didn't catch much of the show.

Thank goodness. :inlove: I'll have to catch it.

[parrthed]

Fox, That document was a great read, I wish there was more detailed information available in the mainstream about eels and their behavior.

Anyway, I have been playing around with my camera tonight and snapped a pic I thought was pretty good.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn175/parrthed/OceansDirect006.jpg

[LukFox]

That is a BEAUTIFUL dragon, Parrthed! I really love the vibrant orange on that guy.

[Monster00101]

was at a store the other day looking for a eel. was gonna get a dragon they had there but they wanted 1600, thats just insane. are eels hard to keep?

[LukFox]

was at a store the other day looking for a eel. was gonna get a dragon they had there but they wanted 1600, thats just insane. are eels hard to keep?

Most eels are pretty darn easy to keep so long as you keep them in the tank (great escape artists). I would agree that 1600 for a dragon is very extreme, though.

[Monster00101]

i figured as much. the store is a big chain. everythings over priced there. but they have everything. im guessing a large eel would eat my other fish. whats a smaller eel that wont eat my puffers and triggers? (sorry not trying to steal thread)

[LukFox]

I would actually worry about a trigger or puffer picking at an eel once they get brave and large enough. You could probably start your own thread and include the kinds of puffers and triggers you have. Some species of triggers would be okay, but I'm not sure about any puffers. I've seen the mix done a lot, but it has always looked risky to me. You could get more input if you made a new thread. :)

[Monster00101]

cool thanks. i still got a lot of time before i get one but better safe than sorry. nice eels everyone. i watched this thing on tv last night where this guy kept feeding this wild eel where he dives. he was feeding it sausages and when he couldnt get the sasuge out of the bag this time it took his finger right off. they explained how the morrays have two jaws. cool stuff.

[iLLwiLL]

Nice zebra. How is it in the reef? I have a loaded reef with sps, id like to get a eel but im afraid of it snapping too many branches? And flippin over too many frags

he doesn't really bother anything towards the top of the tank, but during feedings and when hes looking for food my zebra eel can get really clumsy. he grabbed on to my knuckle once when I was trying to get a frag back that he knocked behind my rockwork . . . guess it looked too much like a shrimp to pass up.

I keep one in my tank because the focus is geared more towards the fish aspect with some easy corals tossed in. If I had a real show tank packed with some beautiful and fragile showpiece arcos, I probably wouldn't advise to get a zebra eel.

~Will.

[tozzi]

Yea , im not gonna. I do like em though!

[olemiss reb]

Morays: The Alien Eels

Great program, my only gripe was the use of common names to describe the eels. The co-op hunting was awesome.

[Kynigos]

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3191&pictureid=23022

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3191&pictureid=23026

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3191&pictureid=23030

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3191&pictureid=23025

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3191&pictureid=23028

[om619]

nice pics, I'll post my zebra eels and maroon clown pair soon.

[helicoprion]

AWESOME Nudivomer! How big is he?

[Kynigos]

Thanks helicoprion. The nudivomer is somewhere between 36 and 40 inches I'd say. When I first got him I was amazed by his size but now I just see him as a moderately large eel. If I can get him out I'll get a more accurate measurement.

[helicoprion]

I've only seen one in person; it was very bulky for it's length. Yours looks like it's pretty big too... how's it's attitude? That's just a wicked cool moray dude. Very nice.

[Kynigos]

The girth is what is most impressive. He's not much longer than the melanotis but much bigger around. I actually got him from someone else on RC who was selling him. I can't remember the guy's name but it was the only one I'd ever seen offered for sale and I jumped on it. As far as attitude goes he's the most laid back of the three, one of the most calm morays I've owned or seen. He regularly lets the picta steal food from out of his grasp without any signs of aggression and as you can see the pica would be a tasty snack if he ever so wanted to. I'm always happy when people appreciate him. Most people just see a big ugly brown moray and ask why I got him :-p

[helicoprion]

They're definitely under appreciated... really cool moray.

[xxfirewaterxx]

My new eel!

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n640/xxfirewaterxx/yellowhead.jpg

[NewJerseyreef]

happy to be able to finally post in this thread! i just got this little guy for $9 bucks at my LFS io couldnt pass him up. he is 10-12 inches and the thickness of a sharpie. he just ate a piece of table shrimp and and very happy he seems very active and happy also. let me know some things i might wanna know to care for him thanks!!!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/Bannedforlife/IMG_1615.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/Bannedforlife/IMG_1611.jpg

[helicoprion]

That fimby is wicked cool... very nice yellow!

Great deal on the snowflake... is he your first moray?

[NewJerseyreef]

yes i just got him and researched for a very long time. hes eating off a stick already and doing very well my trigger is very jealous of the solid food he is getting. im very happy and excited for the moment THANKS

[petenick]

Here's my Snowflake Eel. About 12" long.

1.
http://petenick.smugmug.com/Other/Aquarium-Pictures/IMG3097/1101411547_ug3G5-XL.jpg

2.
http://petenick.smugmug.com/Other/Aquarium-Pictures/IMGP6340/1101414586_yru2m-XL.jpg

3.
http://petenick.smugmug.com/Other/Aquarium-Pictures/IMGP6131/1048363629_iHbuD-XL.jpg

4.
http://petenick.smugmug.com/Other/Aquarium-Pictures/IMG3108/1101413161_Lgcha-XL.jpg

[NewJerseyreef]

very nice shots pete... mine hasnt come out of his rock since i got him. he stick out maybe 3 inchs or so much thats it i would love a full body shot. mine is almost similar size to your how long have you had him and how often do you feed?

[StayPuft]

Snowflakes are good beginner eels, just make sure to have a tight fitting lid on the tank because they're very good at escaping.

[xxfirewaterxx]

Thanks helicoprion!

petenick nice snowflake, those pics are nice!

[petenick]

very nice shots pete... mine hasnt come out of his rock since i got him. he stick out maybe 3 inchs or so much thats it i would love a full body shot. mine is almost similar size to your how long have you had him and how often do you feed?

I have had him for about two months. He is growing fast. He ate off of a feeding stick when I got him from a local person getting out of the hobby for a while. I mix up feedings with shrimp, squid, clam, etc. I feed every 3-4 days. He likes squid the most so far. My undy trigger is a pig and always steals his food... so I feed the trigger then the eel while the undy is eating. I have a 72g half cylinder aquarium waiting in case the trigger and eel begin to fight.




petenick nice snowflake, those pics are nice!

Thank you. I used a Canon 5D at 1600 ISO for some shots, and some were taken at ISO 100 with an overtank flash. And a lot of patience.

[xxfirewaterxx]

Thank you. I used a Canon 5D at 1600 ISO for some shots, and some were taken at ISO 100 with an overtank flash. And a lot of patience.

Nice Camera, maybe Santa will have money leftover to get me one of those!

[petenick]

I just wanted to post a few updated pics of my eel. Got a new lens for xmas and had to try it out :spin3:

1.
http://petenick.smugmug.com/Other/Aquarium-Pictures/IMG3365/1142963571_fbzvU-L.jpg

2.
http://petenick.smugmug.com/Other/Aquarium-Pictures/IMG3430/1142968139_Nf7YS-L.jpg

[olemiss reb]

http://petenick.smugmug.com/Other/Aquarium-Pictures/IMG3430/1142968139_Nf7YS-L.jpg

What's the long term undy plan?

[petenick]

I have a 72g half cylinder aquarium waiting in case the trigger and eel begin to fight.

[olemiss reb]

Not sure how I missed that. I've always wanted an undy, just never had a tank for one.

[petenick]

I've had the undy for just over a year now. He was great with my four+ year old tomato clown for 8 months then turned on him... it was inevitable really. So the tomato moved into another tank and shortly after that I acquired the eel. The eel actually gets along with the trigger quite well so far. They even "cuddle" and sleep beside each other. They share hiding spots as well. Perhaps the trigger doesn't see the eel as a threat because he is always hanging around the bottom of the tank? Either way, I do have an exit strategy for the trigger or eel and also have a 100 gal acrylic tank coming Sunday. No immediate plans for it, but I like to be prepared.

I would recommend a species only undy tank to anyone with the room. He/she is colorful and entertaining.

[madean]

This thread makes me think of the old days when I had eels. I had a japanese dragon, brazilian golden moray (which I think the store had no idea what it was- gold with a chain link pattern- was on a book a few years later) a zebra and a prcupine puffer. It was a sweet display until the perfect storm. I found out my wife was pregnant and I decided to get out of the hobby and with in about two months my zebra bit a heater and an electric shock could be heard throught my apartment. I traded my japanese dragon for a 72 gallon bowfront tank, stand, light and filter setup (which i gave to my father in law). The animals survived the shock but shortly after i was hand feeding the zebra and he missed which gave the puffer the oppurtinity for some krill. Well at the same time the puffer got the food the eel got the puffer. The puffer freaked and puffed up which shot spines through the top and bottom of the zebras mouth and then they were stuck. There was about 20 seconds of violent thrashing and the puffer freed himself and the zebra had a snake tongue on his upper and lower lip. He never ate again and it took about a month before he passed away. It was my wifes favorite fish and to see that happen was a little disheartening. We used to had feed the zebra and rub the top of his head. I still have a scar from when the japanese eel bit me on the web of my hand. i was trying to feed him some squid and he swam past it quickly and came out of the water about 6" to get me. I just was not fast enough to get my hand out of the water. All in all good memories. I had another 50 gal hex that had a rock pile in the center that had 3 ribbon eel (white, blue/yellow, and black) which was pretty cool.

[stangd1909]

Great thraed, it's giving me some good ideas!

[samdaman]

bump anymore? I am getting a snowflake soon!

[samdaman]

This thread makes me think of the old days when I had eels. I had a japanese dragon, brazilian golden moray (which I think the store had no idea what it was- gold with a chain link pattern- was on a book a few years later) a zebra and a prcupine puffer. It was a sweet display until the perfect storm. I found out my wife was pregnant and I decided to get out of the hobby and with in about two months my zebra bit a heater and an electric shock could be heard throught my apartment. I traded my japanese dragon for a 72 gallon bowfront tank, stand, light and filter setup (which i gave to my father in law). The animals survived the shock but shortly after i was hand feeding the zebra and he missed which gave the puffer the oppurtinity for some krill. Well at the same time the puffer got the food the eel got the puffer. The puffer freaked and puffed up which shot spines through the top and bottom of the zebras mouth and then they were stuck. There was about 20 seconds of violent thrashing and the puffer freed himself and the zebra had a snake tongue on his upper and lower lip. He never ate again and it took about a month before he passed away. It was my wifes favorite fish and to see that happen was a little disheartening. We used to had feed the zebra and rub the top of his head. I still have a scar from when the japanese eel bit me on the web of my hand. i was trying to feed him some squid and he swam past it quickly and came out of the water about 6" to get me. I just was not fast enough to get my hand out of the water. All in all good memories. I had another 50 gal hex that had a rock pile in the center that had 3 ribbon eel (white, blue/yellow, and black) which was pretty cool.

Dang, sad to her you no longer have eels, join the club again! I would really like a dragon... but I don't have $900 to spend on an eel :D

[capecoral]

Eel's are bad a****

[samdaman]

Eel's are bad a****

Yes Sir! do you own one?

[samdaman]

bump!

[cakemanPA]

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/cakemanPA/Aquarium/IMG_1109.jpg
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/cakemanPA/Aquarium/IMG_1110.jpg
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/cakemanPA/Aquarium/IMG_1112.jpg
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/cakemanPA/Aquarium/IMG_1137.jpg
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt327/cakemanPA/Aquarium/IMG_1138.jpg

[olemiss reb]

same eels, better camera


http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/DSC_22473.jpg?t=1296745128

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/DSC_22562.jpg?t=1296745216

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/DSC_22302.jpg?t=1296745292

[samdaman]

Nice! Any new growth?

[LukFox]

Really beautiful eels once again, olemiss. Digging the teeth on the moringas and I obviously love the fimby. Nice shots.

[capecoral]

Wish I did!

[ashtree68]

I need to take some pictures of mine, I just got my black ribbon to eat frozen!

[LukFox]

I need to take some pictures of mine, I just got my black ribbon to eat frozen!

Huge congrats! You should share what you did and what sort of tank you had it in (whether it was housed alone, with calm tank mates, or with boisterous fish, etc)! :)

[olemiss reb]

the larger moringa made a rare appearance out of his pvc earlier. pvc is 4" for a size reference.

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/DSC_22702.jpg?t=1296862436

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/DSC_22622.jpg?t=1296862436

[grouperman]

i have 2 big eels a 2 foot zebra and a 20 inch yellow head that i need to find a home for . anybody near san diego interested ? yellow head is a punk and loves to eat his fishmates

[rubensito]

Those G. moringa look incredible...how do you find them in terms of how active they are? I was reading the Phil Purser eel book and states they are active and require 400+ gallons due to that.

[seanothon]

I gotta get some picture of my new tattoo. it's this eel wrapped around about half of my leg

[seanothon]

here the best i have of the tattoo right now. sorry for the skin... it was halloween

[olemiss reb]

Those G. moringa look incredible...how do you find them in terms of how active they are? I was reading the Phil Purser eel book and states they are active and require 400+ gallons due to that.

400 sounds like overkill unless you want to add fish tankmates and give them a shot at surviving. I think ample LR is key. Their tank has ~400lbs which they rarely venture entirely out of and it is also enough that they can avoid each other. They are always visible though, which is nice. They are extremely aggressive which makes having a spotter necessary for tank maintenance. When they are hungry(often) they are pretty active. I got them from toms caribbean -- http://www.divertom.com/In_Stock_List.php

[rubensito]

400 sounds like overkill unless you want to add fish tankmates and give them a shot at surviving. I think ample LR is key. Their tank has ~400lbs which they rarely venture entirely out of and it is also enough that they can avoid each other. They are always visible though, which is nice. They are extremely aggressive which makes having a spotter necessary for tank maintenance. When they are hungry(often) they are pretty active. I got them from toms caribbean -- http://www.divertom.com/In_Stock_List.php

much more outgoing than G. fimbriatus then? I have a small fimby I'm growing out, and it seems very timid except for feeding time

[stangd1909]

Anyone ever hear of a Mexican Dragon eel?? My local lfs has one, but I haven't heard of one before.

[samdaman]

here the best i have of the tattoo right now. sorry for the skin... it was halloween

Crazy party?

[samdaman]

Anyone ever hear of a Mexican Dragon eel?? My local lfs has one, but I haven't heard of one before.

Yes it is simillar to the Dragon eel, Has duller combination and no horns... Also sometimes referred to as Jewel Moray Eel (Muraena lentiginosa)

[samdaman]

the larger moringa made a rare appearance out of his pvc earlier. pvc is 4" for a size reference.

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/DSC_22702.jpg?t=1296862436

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/DSC_22622.jpg?t=1296862436

Beautiful

[stangd1909]

Yes it is simillar to the Dragon eel, Has duller combination and no horns... Also sometimes referred to as Jewel Moray Eel (Muraena lentiginosa)



Thanks a lot. How are they with other fish? Lionfish, puffer...

[samdaman]

Thanks a lot. How are they with other fish? Lionfish, puffer...

Never had one but same as others. Will eat small fish and crustaceans. Aggression depend on the eel some are more aggressive than others..

[LukFox]

Thanks a lot. How are they with other fish? Lionfish, puffer...

I've heard they're quite aggressive. I had a Brazilian dragon eel (Muraena pavonina) which looks to be closely related and he got too aggressive to be kept with other fish. If he couldn't eat the fish whole he would just leave gashes in their sides.

[Monster00101]

Here is some pics of my zebra moray.

[Monster00101]

shes about 3-3 1/2 feet long.

[samdaman]

shes about 3-3 1/2 feet long.

Very nice! What are its tank mates?

[Monster00101]

Just a picasso trigger right now. Ive been told there pretty docile. I will be adding a puffer soon. When i bought her the lfs said she paired with a sohal tang. When u went to the glass the tang would ram the glass then lay on top of the eel like he was protecting her. Pretty sweet. Was hard not to take the tang too. lol

[seanothon]

Crazy party?

It was a little off the chain

[samdaman]

It was a little off the chain

LOL looks like it

[samdaman]

bump!

[LukFox]

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Took this just now. :) The water is full of sand because this is halfway into feeding, and they get pretty into it. I messed up the camera at first and started over haha. It's hard feeding two eels one handed, especially when I had to retrieve the tentacle that fell to the bottom without getting nipped...!

[matt randazzo]

where can i get a fimbriated eel???

[DoubleM 10]

here are my 2 guys!

green wolf eel
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd371/VitaminM10/IMG_0507-1.jpg

Ghost Ribbon eel
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd371/VitaminM10/IMG_0503.jpg

hope you enjoy!!

[IbanezIC300]

Ghost Ribbon eel
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd371/VitaminM10/IMG_0503.jpg



You didn't happen to pick up the ribbon eel in Schaumburg did you? I saw one a LFS there, it looked great, just like yours. Nice eels!

[DoubleM 10]

You didn't happen to pick up the ribbon eel in Schaumburg did you? I saw one a LFS there, it looked great, just like yours. Nice eels!

LMFAO yes. back in November. got him Half off

[palmer373]

lukfox whered you get your eels and are both of those the only tankmates in the 155?

[LukFox]

where can i get a fimbriated eel???

Ask your LFS to order you one. My LFS stopped ordering them because they take up an entire sell tank (would eat anything with them) and he got tired of customers complaining about them eating all of their fish, but they are available on the lists. Just ask.

lukfox whered you get your eels and are both of those the only tankmates in the 155?

From my LFS, and these guys are in my 75g as the only fish. I might need to upgrade to a 120g, but things actually look like they could work out in the 75g. We'll see. I'm getting good growth from the eels and the tank is generally doing very well.


I love the ghost ribbon!

[helicoprion]

Two new additions I want to show off... I don't have time to load them to photobucket right now so attachments will have to do.

Edit - Ugh, doesn't seem to be working, the pic below is the G. chilospilus, he could fit inside a hollow pencil... I'll load the other pics shortly and get them posted here.

[DoubleM 10]

Ask your LFS to order you one. My LFS stopped ordering them because they take up an entire sell tank (would eat anything with them) and he got tired of customers complaining about them eating all of their fish, but they are available on the lists. Just ask.



From my LFS, and these guys are in my 75g as the only fish. I might need to upgrade to a 120g, but things actually look like they could work out in the 75g. We'll see. I'm getting good growth from the eels and the tank is generally doing very well.


I love the ghost ribbon!

Thanks Fox. he is a very personable Eel. He does not bother any of my other fish. small mouth and beautiful when all the wat out.

[helicoprion]

Sorry for the poor quality

Gymnothorax chilospilus - small specimen in his 'sharktank'

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_Gymno_Ssp1a.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=Gymno_Ssp1a.jpg)

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_Gymno_Ssp1b.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=Gymno_Ssp1b.jpg)

Gymnothorax neglectus - 20 inch specimen, pic's don't do this guy justice.

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_Gymno_Ssp2a.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=Gymno_Ssp2a.jpg)

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_Gymno_Ssp2b.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=Gymno_Ssp2b.jpg)

Enchelycore anatina - not new but I got a couple decent pics

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_DSCN1837.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=DSCN1837.jpg)

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_DSCN1835.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=DSCN1835.jpg)

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_DSCN1830.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=DSCN1830.jpg)

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/th_DSCN1829.jpg (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Patrick_Corcoran/?action=view&current=DSCN1829.jpg)

[palmer373]

helicoprion- do you mind sharing some personal experience with G. Neglectus, G. Chilospilus, and E. Anatina? very beautiful eels. mainly interested in max size, min aquarium, how aggressive is it, good with conspecifics, good tankmates, how easy was it to wean and what is it eating.

sorry to bother you but those are really interesting eels but i cant find any info online other than who discovered them lol. thanks :)

[helicoprion]

It's not a bother!

G. neglectus & chilospilus are new to me; I don't have that much experience with either. chilospilus is a smaller species (maxes out at under 2 feet) and therefore makes a great aquarium candidate... it is also found throughout temperate to tropical regions, which makes it even better. The one I have is tiny, but I'm looking forward to growing him out.

Neglectus is another story - this guy is the only one I've seen offered... he's a cooler water species (all my tanks are chilled) and apparently gets massive - four feet long and thick - Marco at wetwebmedia told me he'll have the build of a yellow mouth, which means he's going to need a large tank - 360 sounds fair to me.

The anatina are super rare in the US hobby, in that the two I have are the only two I know of being here. I imported them myself after looking for a source for 6 years. They're awesome, but more than most people are willing to put in for a fish. They get four feet long but not as beefy as the neglectus and also need chilled water. I've had them since December, and other than having some trouble getting them to eat initially, they are awesome. No conspecific aggression, active and beautiful if I do say so myself.

All my morays eat supermarket fish - squid, smelt, shrimp etc. I used to do sharks as well, but after getting out of that I've been focusing entirely on eels. Tank mates are a toss up - I've got two damsels in with the anatina left over from cycling... I assumed they'd be toast but here we are almost three months later and they're fine. In my experience with mostly Japanese morays if you keep your eels well fed and their environment clean you aren't going to have any issues. My personal favorite to this day is Enchelycore lichenosa, which are available from time to time and worth every penny.

I hope this helps... I'm sure fox and others will have more input!

[palmer373]

oh ok so the chilospilus requires colder waters? so i cant put on in my 55 thats at 79 degrees?

[helicoprion]

No, chilospilus would be fine at that temperature. I wouldn't let it get much higher than 82 (with any fish).

[palmer373]

oh ok, where did you get your chilospilus and how much?

[samdaman]

oh ok, where did you get your chilospilus and how much?

Which do you plan on getting?

[olemiss reb]

The anatina are super rare in the US hobby, in that the two I have are the only two I know of being here. I imported them myself after looking for a source for 6 years. They're awesome, but more than most people are willing to put in for a fish.



I made my fish guy pull up your original E. anatina post to show him that they are possible to get, he still laughed when I asked him to find me one.

[palmer373]

Which do you plan on getting?

which eels are you refering to? im still planning on getting a black ribbon and thinking about the chilospilus. i had a dream about having thousands of fish tanks lining my room full of eels. :P im thinking of setting up some more tanks for a few eels lol.

[helicoprion]

I wouldn't do any ribbon eel, but that's just me. Chilospilus aren't impossible to come by, but they're usually under the 'Asst Moray' section of wholesaler lists. I recommend reaching out to online vendors or a good LFS for a special order. Price will be up to them.

[palmer373]

most fish that are anything but a clownfish or damsel i have to special order from my LFS' lol. im starting to double think the ribbon, ill consider one if it survives a month at the lfs and is eating. just as an estimate, how much did yours cost?

[helicoprion]

I made my fish guy pull up your original E. anatina post to show him that they are possible to get, he still laughed when I asked him to find me one.

Lol, if you're really interested I can point you in the right direction... just be prepared to exchange a decent used car for one ;)

most fish that are anything but a clownfish or damsel i have to special order from my LFS' lol. im starting to double think the ribbon, ill consider one if it survives a month at the lfs and is eating. just as an estimate, how much did yours cost?

Expect to pay $100-$200, but it depends on where you go, and where they order from. Also - consider the tank mates you already have... the guy I have is literally bite size and has to be 'shark tanked' inside a larger tank to protect him from everyone. Any thoughts on a Goldentail/yellow moray? They stay pretty small, are laid back and are gorgeous. You can get them for around $300, or you could go with an Abbott's moray, which is also pretty for half that (maybe less).

[palmer373]

oh ok i was considering setting up my 29, or i can get a 40B, for a smaller eel. ive been looking into the goldentail eel but i dont have the $300 to spend. its a shame, everyone says they are awesome to get. whats the scientific name of the abbott's eel? im looking in a book i have and cant find it.

what is a yellowhead eel? i was just at my LFS talking to him about eels and he says he can get me a yellowhead and they are small/easy to care for.

oh ya, he also said he can get a hawaii dragon moray for $100....

[cudamaster13]

does anyone have pics of their jewel or chain morays?

[palmer373]

foudn the yellowhead moray eel, turns out its a fimbriated eel. can i keep a fimbriated with a lionfish, niger and maroon? i know they are a lil more aggressive than others.

[olemiss reb]

fimby would eat the maroon, at least mine would. Niger and lions safety would depend on their size. I'd be worried about the fimby trying to eat the lion and injuring/killing both.

[helicoprion]

oh ok i was considering setting up my 29, or i can get a 40B, for a smaller eel. ive been looking into the goldentail eel but i dont have the $300 to spend. its a shame, everyone says they are awesome to get. whats the scientific name of the abbott's eel? im looking in a book i have and cant find it.

Gymnothorax eurostus

what is a yellowhead eel? i was just at my LFS talking to him about eels and he says he can get me a yellowhead and they are small/easy to care for.

I know a few people here have them; I have in the past and in my experience they're meanies... I also wouldn't add more fish to that 55, but that's just me. 29 or 40 with just the fimby would be a bare, bare minimum but you'd run the risk of it jumping.

oh ya, he also said he can get a hawaii dragon moray for $100....

If he can do that I'll take 10 ;)

fimby would eat the maroon, at least mine would. Niger and lions safety would depend on their size. I'd be worried about the fimby trying to eat the lion and injuring/killing both.

I love your avatar dude.

[LukFox]

Very lovely eels as always, Helicoprion! I love seeing them. I need to ask now too, what makes Enchelycore lichenosa your favorite?

Your chilospilus is absolutely adorable, I love baby eels. :D Man you are killing me with photos of anatina, but don't stop. It's just making it harder to pick what species I plan to end up with eventually (trying to limit myself to 3-5 species...), and anatina might have to make it in.

[helicoprion]

Ditto! He really is a cutie, and the smallest one I've ever had.

E. lichenosa is just a really cool animal all around. I love the way they look, and as far as mine went, the way they behave. The guy I had was very laid back with his tank mates but very interactive with me - the only eel I've ever felt comfortable hand feeding (which is a dumb dumb dumb dumb thing to do with any moray, I know). I lost mine during a power outage (that's not gonna happen again; battery backups all around), I'll have another one in the next few months and will be able to tell if they all have the same personality. Again, I cannot recommend them enough.

Anatina is also pretty awesome... my big one, who is pushing four feet, is a beast. They are much more aggressive feeders than the lichenosa was, but still pretty laid back with tank mates. I'd love it if they became readily available, at least on the level of some of the Japanese species, but the only guy ever found that would catch them and ship them to me charges a bundle. I may try to work with him in the future to bring prices down and order a bunch, but at the prices I was paying no one else was interested (I posted ads last year letting people know I had access to them, RC took the one here down).

I'm also working on a few others super rarities; I'll post pics as they come in :)

[palmer373]

anyone have info on G. Melatremus? found him in a book and it says he gets to 7" long.

[JackiB]

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Took this just now. :) The water is full of sand because this is halfway into feeding, and they get pretty into it. I messed up the camera at first and started over haha. It's hard feeding two eels one handed, especially when I had to retrieve the tentacle that fell to the bottom without getting nipped...!

That I awesome, I wish I had a pair. That would be really cool to see them interact together. Did you buy them as a pair or pair them up? Although mine tries to take my hand off as soon as the glass opens.

[JackiB]

foudn the yellowhead moray eel, turns out its a fimbriated eel. can i keep a fimbriated with a lionfish, niger and maroon? i know they are a lil more aggressive than others.

Mine ate a lion fish when it was with it's previous owner, his only tank mate now is a much larger porky puffer.

[palmer373]

Mine ate a lion fish when it was with it's previous owner, his only tank mate now is a much larger porky puffer.

i guess ill pass on those, whats the minimum tank size with just a fimby in it? standard 29?

[olemiss reb]

My fimby has a 90 all too himself. The smallest I'd put one in is a 75, they produce a fair amount of waste.. A 29 would be way too small.

[vegasr]

Any thoughts on a Jeweled Moray eel in a 120gal tank? I really like how it looks at not suppose to get over 2ft in length. Would love to hear from someone that has/had one.

[palmer373]

ok so im a lil confused and might find a better answer here, what is the difference betweem G. Miliaris and G. Melatremus? they are both rare and expensive, thats all i know lol.

[samdaman]

i guess ill pass on those, whats the minimum tank size with just a fimby in it? standard 29?

Hey bro, I know you cant work yet but I (As in my opinion) would hold off buying an eel until you get a bigger tank, That way you can keep it when it gets big and it stays healthy.

[palmer373]

Hey bro, I know you cant work yet but I (As in my opinion) would hold off buying an eel until you get a bigger tank, That way you can keep it when it gets big and it stays healthy.

lol ya a bigger tank would be best. in all reality im asking questions to see what people will think if i have this fish in that tank or something like that. thanks for thinking about the fish fishies tho ;)

[LukFox]

ok so im a lil confused and might find a better answer here, what is the difference betweem G. Miliaris and G. Melatremus? they are both rare and expensive, thats all i know lol.

Miliaris is a 2 foot heavy bodied eel that produces a fair bit of waste. Generally safe with tank mates, more so than most eels. Melatremus is the dwarf that only gets a foot long and stays thin. It is fish safe with things it can't fit in its small mouth. I've had both and loved them. You could put a melatremus in a 29g.

Vegasr, what would you be keeping it with? Jewels are on the aggressive side.

JackiB, I am pairing them myself. I wouldn't called them paired yet as they are not mature, but I am hopeful they will be in the future. They have been spending more time in the same cave the last few weeks instead of keeping to themselves, so I hope that's a positive sign.

[vegasr]

Vegasr, what would you be keeping it with? Jewels are on the aggressive side.

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Right now the only fish I have in is a med sized volitan lion fish. Don't know exactly what else I'd go with but wanted that and an eel for sure. The Jewel Moray is my first choice due to it's looks and size. What do you think?

[cudamaster13]

Right now the only fish I have in is a med sized volitan lion fish. Don't know exactly what else I'd go with but wanted that and an eel for sure. The Jewel Moray is my first choice due to it's looks and size. What do you think?

im planning on keeping a jewel eel with a bamboo or epualet shark,chain moray large tangs and possibly a blacktip grouper is a jewel too aggro for these??

[JackiB]

When I got my fimby he was in a standard 75 and was a little cramped (he is almost 3ft). Now he is in a 6ft 150 and stretches out a lot more.

[cudamaster13]

im planning on keeping a jewel eel with a bamboo or epualet shark,chain moray large tangs and possibly a blacktip grouper is a jewel too aggro for these??

??????

[palmer373]

im planning on keeping a jewel eel with a bamboo or epualet shark,chain moray large tangs and possibly a blacktip grouper is a jewel too aggro for these??

i think the jewel moray is too aggressive from what im reading.

[vegasr]

i think the jewel moray is too aggressive from what im reading.

Yes, from my readings it is aggressive, but I'm good with that due to how it looks. :D

[palmer373]

anyone got info on Gymnothorax nigromarginatus or blackedge moray? its on divertom and i know nothing about it.

EDIT: and info on this guy Gymnothorax moringa? web is lacking info.

[samdaman]

Dragon eel on DD too

[olemiss reb]

EDIT: and info on this guy Gymnothorax moringa? web is lacking info.

I have a pair of G. moringas, pics on pg 4 and top of pg 5. They are the definition of aggressive. Work in the tank has to be done with a spotter as they are quick and will bite. Got them from Toms site. They will come out of the water during feedings, snapping as they hit the surface. This is the top of their tank. They pushed the eggcrate up before adding the weights
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/DSC_22952.jpg?t=1297107111

I've never kept a black edge but have read they are comparable to fimbies in aggressiveness and max out a little over 3 ft.

[palmer373]

eh i guess ill pass on those, so from what im reading zebras are peaceful and good communtiy eels? whats the max size tho, i heard its 3 ft and 5ft. also min tank size?

maybe it would be best to start with a snowflake or something lol :P could i keep 2 in a 55?

[vegasr]

That Toms site has to be the true essence of getting a wild specimen. I know that's basically how all places (LFS, online sites) do it, but something about them catching it straight from the ocean, then shipped to you directly is intersting, versus possibley having a fish/eel sitting in a holding tank for awhile.

[palmer373]

id love to order from him, i need some pepermint shrimp and $4 each compared to $12 locally sure is a nice thing. id probably buy like $200 worth of stuff from him if im allowed to. ive wanted a black cap basslet for a while, cooler than a royal gramma lol

[palmer373]

anyone know anything about this guy Siderea picta http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+3&ddid=113006

[Kynigos]

I know that's not a picta. It's actually Siderea thyrsoidea. Other than that they stay relatively small I don't know much about them.

[olemiss reb]

Also, Siderea picta is now Gymnothorax pictus

G pictus- reach 4-5ft, mainly eat crustaceans but will eat fish, need large tanks with secure lids

[Kynigos]

With the state of eel systematics species names can be as bad as common names. That being said, DD has been pretty bad lately. They had a G. pictus as a G. tile the other day.

[samdaman]

With the state of eel systematics species names can be as bad as common names. That being said, DD has been pretty bad lately. They had a G. pictus as a G. tile the other day.

Yeah, I saw some errors on lionfish the other day too

[palmer373]

so the S. Picta is actually G. Pictus and the G. Tile they have for sale is also a G. Pictus?

[Kynigos]

The eel on DD with the white eyes that is labeled Sideria picta is actually Siderea thyrsoidea, the white-eyed moray. The eel that is labeled as Gymnothorax tile is Gymnothorax pictus, formerly Sideria picta, the peppered moray.

Confusing enough for you? :-p

[palmer373]

ok so whats some info on S. Thyrsoidea then?

[olemiss reb]

ok so whats some info on S. Thyrsoidea then?

They max out a little over 2ft. I've read they are mild mannered. 95harley had one but I haven't seen him post in long time.

[dmopar74]

my first sw eels, waitin it out in qt.
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/dmopar74/swbuild180002.jpg

[palmer373]

nice, how large?

[Monster00101]

Is that a snowflake and a zebra?

[dmopar74]

Yep snowflake and zebra. Both around 12"

[Monster00101]

Is there issues with them fighting? I have a juvi snowflake In my reef and a 2 foot zebra in my fowlr. I wanted to move the snowflake to the fowlr when he gets bigger but was told they would fight.

[LukFox]

Yep snowflake and zebra. Both around 12"

The "zebra" is actually Echidna polyzona. It's a smaller eel than a zebra, but it should still work out fine. It is similar to a snowflake.

[olemiss reb]

The "zebra" is actually Echidna polyzona. It's a smaller eel than a zebra, but it should still work out fine. It is similar to a snowflake.

Yep, I hope they did not charge you for a zebra. Barred morays have a significantly lower price tag.

[XSharkboyX]

Not the greatest pic in the world, but here is my Gymnothorax favagineus (tesselata moray) I had for a few years. Awesome, very aggressive eel.

<a href="http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/Sharkboy87/?action=view&amp;current=IMG_0158.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/Sharkboy87/IMG_0158.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[predator 1]

Here is my Gymnothorax funebris, a real mean dude. The picture is a little small, click it to enlarge.

[LukFox]

I love the big guys you two, always beautiful. How long are these currently?

[predator 1]

My funebris is 5ft long, give or take a few inches, and as thick as my leg.

[olemiss reb]

Here is my Gymnothorax funebris, a real mean dude. The picture is a little small, click it to enlarge.

Could you post some more pics, you don't see these guys that often. What size tank is it in? Awesome eel btw!!

[dmopar74]

Yep, I hope they did not charge you for a zebra. Barred morays have a significantly lower price tag.

hmm good to know, i had no idea.

the snowflake and barred cost me 70$ for the pair.

[LukFox]

My funebris is 5ft long, give or take a few inches, and as thick as my leg.

YESSS need more pics and details! How long have you had it, how big was it when you got it, tank size, tank mates (?), etc... Would love to know. It's not often we hear about really big ones here.

[TAB]

this thread is making me want to set up another tank...

:)

[XSharkboyX]

My buddy still has the tesselata I sold to him, pictured above. Its Nearly 6 ft now. He is in a 500 gallon custom tank, with a couple of other very large eels. I will see about getting a recent pic.

[helicoprion]

If I had to guess I'd say that"s G. isingteena and not favagineus....

[predator 1]

As far as I know, the Gynothorax Isingteena has not yet been seen in the trade. However, if and when they are available, it would take a well educated eye to distinguish the difference between this picture of G. Isingteena, from the G. Favagineus.

[GrendelPrime76]

this is probably 1 of my fav threads going and i am thinking of removing all the fish i have in my 75 and going the eel route

[palmer373]

found a 6" snowflake at an LFS, if im correct they naturally eat crustaceans in the wild so a fish bigger than its mouth is safe from a gruesome death? im thinking of putting him (if i get it) in a 55g with my niger, maroon, and possibly a dwarf angel or two (thinking flames). any obvious problems besides bioload? all the fish currently are over 3 inches and all the fish ill add will be 2 inches or more. if i get him i was planning on putting him in a 10g QT until i train him to frozen and he grows some.

:) thanks for the help.

[vegasr]

The great thing about that SFE that you found is the size. They are awesome when they are that small, so enjoy the moment. I've owned one a while back, got him small and he was great, as he grew so did my dislike for him. Eventually I gave him back to the LFS. I love eels but won't ever own another SF, but that's just me.

[palmer373]

The great thing about that SFE that you found is the size. They are awesome when they are that small, so enjoy the moment. I've owned one a while back, got him small and he was great, as he grew so did my dislike for him. Eventually I gave him back to the LFS. I love eels but won't ever own another SF, but that's just me.

could you explain why you didnt like him? what tank was he in and with what tankmates? just some background info would be nice because i have heard of SFE turning mean when they get big but i figured if they were matched with appropriate sized fish that wouldnt be an issue.

[stangd1909]

I've heard they're quite aggressive. I had a Brazilian dragon eel (Muraena pavonina) which looks to be closely related and he got too aggressive to be kept with other fish. If he couldn't eat the fish whole he would just leave gashes in their sides.


A LFS by me has a Brazilian dragon eel ($160), and said he would be fine with my stars and stripes puffer (6 inches). I thought I would ask here first though. He is a really cool eel though.

[rayn]

Okay, I'm in
Nothing major, just a wolf eel
http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr321/dougcobb/2011-03-07_20-04-28_13.jpg
http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr321/dougcobb/2011-03-07_20-04-16_709.jpg

I'm wanting to put my yellow belly dog face puffer in with it too, any problems there besides the feeding needed?

Current tank is a 55 with a upgrade to a 110 or 125 shortly.

[vegasr]

could you explain why you didnt like him? what tank was he in and with what tankmates? just some background info would be nice because i have heard of SFE turning mean when they get big but i figured if they were matched with appropriate sized fish that wouldnt be an issue.

Exactly as you stated, he became mean as he got bigger. I had him in a 75gal FOWLR, with a mixed crowd. I myself would rather go with an eel less common and more unique than a SFE, but that's just me.

[stacyjo]

A LFS by me has a Brazilian dragon eel ($160), and said he would be fine with my stars and stripes puffer (6 inches). I thought I would ask here first though. He is a really cool eel though.

I just bought a Brazilian dragon eel yesturday and it is amazing.. love the colors and a very cool looking eel..Not sure bout putting it in with the puffer but I have it in with two other eels and they are doing just fine all together.. If it would work with your puffer you should so get it..

[LukFox]

Lisa's Brazilian dragon goes after puffers, but mine just went after everything after I'd had him for a couple years. He ended up getting his own tank because he wasn't compatible with other fish.

[helicoprion]

As far as I know, the Gynothorax Isingteena has not yet been seen in the trade. However, if and when they are available, it would take a well educated eye to distinguish the difference between this picture of G. Isingteena, from the G. Favagineus.


My understanding is that Isingteena is indeed in the trade (at least stateside). Favagineus has sharper features, and it's dots are finer and evenly distributed. Isingteen has a squarish, blulky features, and has blotchy, irregular patterns. I've had a few "tessy's" and I always thought there were two different species; fishbase seems to back that up.

Just my thoughts; Moray eel taxa is such a mess that I could be wrong.

Favagineus on the left, Isingeena on the right.

[samdaman]

Bump!

My new eel!

http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz119/monsieursam/IMG_7953.jpg

http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz119/monsieursam/IMG_7946.jpg

http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz119/monsieursam/IMG_7947.jpg

[jgemperline]

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx292/knucklebustn68/62e94687.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx292/knucklebustn68/bef5c652.jpg
My ghost eel. 18" about? I have had him for about two months. I really like him. Keeps his body hidden with his head out most of the time but on feeding days he is all over the place.

[natebedwell06]

man this thread really makes me miss having my eel, Im looking for pictures right now, had a zebra moray that was about 3 1/2 feet long, awesome eel, loved clams on a half shell

[Brycen97]

BUMP!
Hey guys im looking to get a new eel soon, and i was refered to this thred and i have read it ALL! Befor i saw this i was thinking about a snow flake eel. Now i am wordering either a snowflake or a Echidna polyzona? or whatever the known name is. any ways what do you guys think wuld be better for a 90gal (not counting my sump) with a clown fish and corals and looking to also get a jewl damsale and possably a caribbean blue tang? Dont know what else i will want later on. give me feed back.

[palmer373]

How much are you willing to spend? There is an eel that gets around a foot (maybe 10" i dont remember) but costs like $300 or more. I believe its called "golden dwarf moray" or "banana eel". Sorry i dont have my SW fish book open at the moment so i'm not positive on the name and i cant even remember the scientific name. I think thats one of the best eels to chance on not having your fish eaten.

Oh course dont count snowflakes out, a friend had one in a 29g reef for 2 years till it jumped. it was just a bulldozer when bigger, no fish problems. get one small and raise it in a community setting. JMO

[olemiss reb]

G. melatremus. Make sure the tank is sealed and all intakes are covered.

[Brycen97]

ehhh im look for someting in the 100 reange... what do you guys think tho snowflake or a Echidna polyzonafor my tank?

[Putty]

Nice pics!

Several years ago I had a decent sized fimbriated in my 90g. One night I had a female friend over watching a movie. Across the floor it came. I had never touched it and was a bit timid to pick him up.

[samdaman]

G. melatremus. Make sure the tank is sealed and all intakes are covered.

This is very important so it doesn't cruise around and you freak out when you don't find it for 3 days.

And when you go to clean something out you find a happy camper in your filter.

http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz119/monsieursam/IMAG0112.jpg

[samdaman]

Bump. Any new purchases?

[anaya]

Got a new Fimby :dance: I am waiting on a friend of mine with a camera to come help me out

[anaya]

Sorry photos are from my iPhone with only ambient outside light while it is in a plastic cage in my DT and acclimation bucket with no flash. Still waiting on my friend to take some nice ones.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0178.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0180.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0177.jpg

[LukFox]

Informative shot, Samdaman! Glad you found him in time.

Anaya, that's a beautiful fimby with very nice heavy markings!

[samdaman]

Informative shot, Samdaman! Glad you found him in time.

Anaya, that's a beautiful fimby with very nice heavy markings!

yeah, Thanks. But the truth is that he made a habit of going in there, so I had to seal it of with some small mesh and plastic. It shows how smart they really are. Once he went in there, he remembered How to go back. And not only that, he would also return to the tank at his will.

Indeed that is a beautiful fimby, looking forward to more pictures!

[samdaman]

Informative shot, Samdaman! Glad you found him in time.

Anaya, that's a beautiful fimby with very nice heavy markings!

ehhh im look for someting in the 100 reange... what do you guys think tho snowflake or a Echidna polyzonafor my tank?

My snowflake gets aggressive during eating time.. he bit the streamers off my trigger.

[anaya]

Thank You! I think that I'm going crazy though. I have literally sat in my room just watching it in the tank probably 80% 0f the last 30 hours haha

[anaya]

My friend Jason stopped by and took some pictures. They did not turn out the best but the eel is still staying way back in holes. Friend is gonna stop by every couple of days so hopefully he will get better shots soon.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0317.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0318.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0319.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0320.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0321.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0330.jpg
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n621/Aanayab1/IMG_0322.jpg

[Brycen97]

JEST GOTTA NEW EEL! Tonight i got a new snowlflake eel, my LFS called me up telling me that they had a tade in and had a eel (theve been haveing problems getting me a eel). whent up there and it was jest what i was looking for it was only about a 1ft maybe bigger and about the with of my pinky. I had made PVC pipe hide out but i dont think he has found it yet :(. So far havent seen any agresson towrd my fish, but my tang it scared of him. he alreddy let me pet him and hand feed him (I wasnt to scared) pretty good for day 1? Anyways i love my new eel and i will have pic.'s soon! Hope this brings some life to this tread and i would like opinons on my new slimmy freind! thanks

[silentcivilian]

Slimey?? Since when? haha, wet yes!

https://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1p1dCKNMOmn3WtTjH9ko0hNo8WC5kVLOer6YHuwQmZpLV1ZDVlIczdwkxEEkoJgnRX_krjcLvwrXY/DSC06673.JPG?psid=1

Peeking out from the one rock I found that I said this is a moray rock.. it was dished alot.. so it created a large hallow spot under the rock the way I set it up.

https://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1pAdZOO6VnMPMN8GBO88DbDcKMX7BX4TZFDgBu2WUQ_5ha5o7udYIlztY3b1ji703-Xmg--UAH8bo/DSC06681.JPG?psid=1

Coming out for a taste..

https://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1pAdZOO6VnMPPDC3aOcIoq_3gNG7XBSCABe943Xdq5INfZvrzbrXAdV-HBazgkmbsoQ7pWr-CD89A/DSC06682.JPG?psid=1

Spotted! Back under the rock.

Soo question.. I bought my moray at the sametime as my stonefish, and my eel still sometimes cuddles the stone, but do people find predatory fish my develope a partnership like that?

Also, my eel had dreads on his head when i first bought him, as a tiny tiny runt.. any idea what those would have been?

[Brycen97]

Nice new eel man! and yes slimey i picked him up when i put him into my tank, lol

[AlexS95]

Here is my Zebra:
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01215.jpg

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01228.jpg

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01229.jpg

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01232.jpg

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01231.jpg

And I just took these-

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01289.jpg

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01290.jpg

http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01279.jpg

He's hard to get a good picture of, the camera doesn't seem to want to focus...

[Brycen97]

Seems big... how big is he? 3 ft?

[AlexS95]

I'd say a foot and a half to two feet. It's just a big tank. :spin1:

[akdylpcikles]

I see the porc!!!! now wheres the ray? :)

Good looking eel btw

[AlexS95]

I was going to post this (http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01284.jpg), but it looked to blurry to post IMO. Here's one of just the ray. (http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01283.jpg)

[akdylpcikles]

are you sure thats a cortez? it kinda looks like a yellow ray.

[AlexS95]

It is a Yellow, I never said it was a Cortex. lol

[Brycen97]

Here Is my my eel his name is Gurtle hahaha sorry for so many pictures and there blurryness
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h341/brycen97/eel004.jpg
behind his rock
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h341/brycen97/eel003.jpg
In his rock
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h341/brycen97/eel002.jpg
Nemo, Gurtle, and my tang
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h341/brycen97/eel001.jpg
Nemo and Gurtle
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h341/brycen97/eel005.jpg
Another
What do u guys think?

[AlexS95]

His coloring looks cool, but that Vlamingii will get huge...

[olemiss reb]

Not a moray but still eels. had them 4-5 months--

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/gardensss.jpg?t=1312213553

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/splendids.jpg?t=1312213606

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/garden9.jpg?t=1312213801

Snagged a pic of my fimby "yawning"

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/fimbyjawupdate.jpg?t=1312213843

[AlexS95]

Very cool!

[matt randazzo]

WOW, amazing and yet still a little bit threatening... Lol, very sweet pics

[thornious]

Not a moray but still eels. had them 4-5 months--

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/gardensss.jpg?t=1312213553

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/splendids.jpg?t=1312213606

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad181/jstari78/garden9.jpg?t=1312213801

What kind of eels are they? How big do they get?

[olemiss reb]

What kind of eels are they? How big do they get?

Gorgasia preclara(splendid garden eel)-- http://www.fishbase.org/summary/Gorgasia-preclara.html

Heteroconger hassi (spotted garden eel)-- http://www.fishbase.org/summary/Heteroconger-hassi.html

They have specific requirements, tank should be built around their needs. Not the best eels to start with or attempt without a fair amount of research.

WOW, amazing and yet still a little bit threatening... Lol, very sweet pics

The splendids are surprisingly aggressive, they'll bite any fish that swims over there hole and then quickly retreat back down.

[Cracken]

how deep is your sand bed?

[silentcivilian]

That was one of my favourite things to see in the Kona diving I did. Just 100's of garden eels, though jebus help me if I could have got a shot of one of them, they are huge in the wild, and dont let you get close before they hide.

This is the only shot of any guy I got, and he isnt a garden eel.

http://ogq48a.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pDdMH_fmadkca8qVUfweAdIA9geJaV2MkiYL3BQO4PwjWhGS8MfLqCwTHmoh7SqyTUUgcfANl6dQHPRLeAW1_mSZiXM8fpKEX/P6030050.JPG?psid=1

[ashtree68]

They have specific requirements, tank should be built around their needs. Not the best eels to start with or attempt without a fair amount of research.
.

Other than needing a deep sand bed what do they require?

[thornious]

Gorgasia preclara(splendid garden eel)-- http://www.fishbase.org/summary/Gorgasia-preclara.html

Heteroconger hassi (spotted garden eel)-- http://www.fishbase.org/summary/Heteroconger-hassi.html

They have specific requirements, tank should be built around their needs. Not the best eels to start with or attempt without a fair amount of research.



The splendids are surprisingly aggressive, they'll bite any fish that swims over there hole and then quickly retreat back down.

thanks for the reply. I had never seen those I was just wondering what they were.

[kripas]

Jaw Drop<br>http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/mangkepweng/IMG_0489.jpg<br>http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/mangkepweng/IMG_0488.jpg

[BlueTrig]

Hey everyone I'm back. Unfortunately my SFE made it through my egg crate a little after so I decided to give it my go with a larger eel that couldn't make it through. Here is my zebra moray. I've wanted one for such a long time and finally got one. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/Bannedforlife/IMG_2364.jpg

[predator 1]

Am I seeing double, or is that two greens in the above pics? I keep a mature G.funebris (see page 8 of this thread) and I will be interested in the outcome when those two grow to maturity. Please keep us all updated.

[kripas]

Its 2 green, been on the tank for 20 years

[ashtree68]

How big of a tank is that?

[predator 1]

If those two greens are 20+ years old, then I am an alien!! Unless there size and complexion has been stunted for some reason. Even when living alone, they look like they have been in a war.

[cfsindorf]

Out of snowflake, Chain or Zebra which one would be less agressive towards fish and as an adult do not go mean? Some say SFE go postal as adults but a buddy has one that is calm as can be.

Thanks

[AlexS95]

I'd go with a Zebra if you have the room.

[AlexS95]

Here's a video of mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EagKgFk_SFA

[cfsindorf]

Are there any others I might have left out? The key is smaller.

thanks

AlexS95: Your vid shows just how exciting they can be in a tank

[AlexS95]

If you can spend a bit of money, try a Golden Dwarf Moray. They max out at 12" and look pretty cool IMO.
He's not always out that much. It was a combination of it was around 11:30 pm and it was just after feeding; he's always out more for both so I tried this and it worked.
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/iTeeeeeeeeeeeeen/DSC01406.jpg

[rubensito]

These are only cell phone pictures, but anyway..they're both pretty small juveniles. They're the only eels I have left, pretty common species, but I enjoy them, even though I'm not trying to "collect" eels due to a hobby reduction.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e291/rubentolon/fimbriatus8102011.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e291/rubentolon/moringa08102011.jpg

[AlexS95]

It's funny how much our definition of 'common' are different. I have only seen one Fimby for sale and I don't even know what the second one is. :confused:

[silentcivilian]

Here is my beauty eating while Im trying to feed another tank mate. Cant do this anymore, my puffer is too bossy now. But enjoy my snowflake out and about!
Click Me (http://youtu.be/-Z9fbnjrpiM)