reef safe angels

[zoeyo5]

i'm looking to get an angel that won't pick at lps or sps. anyone know of any?

[hunkafish]

I have a rusty Angel that is reef safe have had Pygmy Angels that also where R/S, Flames and Coral beauty's are most of the time. I have noticed that people who feed heavy seem to have better R/S success. If you where to feed once a day or every other day as some do, your fish would resort to looking for available things to eat even things they had no desire to before hunger kicked in. Others as they age and increase in size and there owners don't increase there feeding quanity, can expect the same. I blamed one of my Pygmy's when after watching closely it turned out to be red leg hermits eating my Zoo's

[Toddrtrex]

I currently have 5 dwarfs, only one of them hasn't touched any of my corals, and that would be my Potter's. My coral beauty on the other hand LOVED LPS -- the reason I no longer keep LPS in that tank.

In the end, it is going to be a crap shoot -- each angel is going to be different. Though, IME, a lemonpeel and Bi-color were the LEAST reef safe (( they even picked at an S. Haddoni anemone )).

[username in use]

interesting, my potters hasn't touched any coral either. He did however pester a clam to the point that I gave it away before it killed it.

[Allmost]

I have a japanese swallowtail angel, not a nipper :)

[Toddrtrex]

interesting, my potters hasn't touched any coral either. He did however pester a clam to the point that I gave it away before it killed it.

What is funny is that when the Potter's was in my 58, it would nip at my clam from time to time. For other reasons I moved it to another tank, then 6 months later I moved the same clam to that tank -- it ignored it.

[username in use]

That is bizarre.

[Jhockey]

Only genicanthus angels are considered reef safe, everything else is a gamble.

[Toddrtrex]

Only genicanthus angels are considered reef safe, everything else is a gamble.

I wouldn't go that far -- I have read a few posts about even then going after corals.

[zoeyo5]

anyone have any experience with bellus angels?

[AfricaOffroad]

I have a small female bellus.
Had it a few months now in a LPS/Softie tank.
Got a couple of big juicy trachyphillia, it does not touch them or anything else.

Active fish with a lot of attitude, takes no nonsense from my big purple nor sohal tang which are each 3 times her size. I highly recommend the Vampire Angel (the small fang like markings on her top lip)

[birch]

I have had a female bellus in an SPS/LPS 75 gallon reef for just over one year with no problems.

[Jhockey]

I wouldn't go that far -- I have read a few posts about even then going after corals.

For any fish, there's always a few that stray from the typical, but tgetrs many more you've read that have been reef safe. Tangs are considered to be reef safe but I've heard numerous ones eating corals. I also said considered reef safe, not guaranteed. If your going to go with an angel, genicanthus is your best bet.

[zoeyo5]

got a pic of the vampire angel, google came up with nothing.

[jaa1456]

got a pic of the vampire angel, google came up with nothing.Same here nothing, tried a few different things and nothing.

[zoeyo5]

i fought a utube video that they called a vampire angel but it looked like freshwater

[Jhockey]

I think Africaoffroad is referring to the bellus angel as the vampire.

[zachfishman]

My flame would nip at my frogspawn occasionally, but it never did any real damage - the FS grew and looked great regardless. As for clams I just assume every dwarf angel is a threat.

[zoeyo5]

so it sounds like the bellus should be pretty safe as long as i feed enough?

[38bill]

I have a Bellus and a Black Spot. They are both plankton eaters and are reef safe. A Lamarack's and a Watanabei are also a good, reef safe angel.

[michael_cb_125]

Any species of angelfish can be reef safe, one must recognize the fact that each fish is an individual.

~Michael

[JTR0510]

ive had 2 different coralbeautys and one would nip and the other would not.

[teemee]

+1 on the lemonpeel. It didn't touch my lps until it saw a labroides wrasse chomping down on my beautiful acans. The wrasse is now long gone, but so are all of my acans, sadly. It doesn't seem to bother any other lps, though.

[michealprater]

All angels are a gamble, depends on if u don't mind losing a coral to a gamble. That's why I have a frag tank, if they nip, the coral moves, but I am a angel first coral second type a person.

[Oceanic150]

I could not agree more,my Goldflake angel is the centerpiece of my tank.I have had it for over a year,feed once or twice a day and he has not bothered any of my many zoas !

[Angel*Fish]

That is bizarre.It's not bizarre if the second tank was larger. Just like tangs, when an angel is in a tank too small they will not be as well behaved.
so it sounds like the bellus should be pretty safe as long as i feed enough?What is your tank size? They get much larger than dwarf angels. S michael recommends at least 75 g. In my opinion you should add 25 g to that.

[brian15876]

ive had multiple coral beauties over the years, nice peaceful hearty fish and never seen them touch a coral

[ALH]

I got rid of my bellus for nipping.

[Toddrtrex]

It's not bizarre if the second tank was larger. Just like tangs, when an angel is in a tank too small they will not be as well behaved.
What is your tank size? They get much larger than dwarf angels. S michael recommends at least 75 g. In my opinion you should add 25 g to that.

Oddly enough, the tank is/was smaller.

[michealprater]

Angels are grazers in nature, therefore, you will have incidental pecking on sps. Whether it does damage or not is debatable. That being said, you will have this with tangs also.

[SDguy]

I really love my pair of blackspot swallowtails. I've had them 4 years, and they don't touch any coral.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17990688#post17990688

[Angel*Fish]

Oddly enough, the tank is/was smaller.Mysterious little fish.
What the heck tiny tank did you put that fish in? Bad, bad Todd! :D :lol: