Japanese Deep water Zoas

[TankStuds]

Hi,

We are gonna get our first zoas and was thinking about getting some of these.
Are they as hardy as regular zoas?

Thanks,
-J&K

[dixiedog]

I always assumed they WERE regular zoas, with a fancy name and price tag.

I shall await clarification from someone more knowledgeable. :)

[Jarred1]

yea i read somewhere that there is no such thing as japanese deep water zoas because you cant export from there or something like that

[ukguy]

+1 on the fancy name/price

[GiantBen]

I've had some deepwater look-alikes. I believe they were called African Blue Steels, or some such thing. They just melted away over a short time frame. I've heard this is common for that type of zoa.

[garrett3423]

i got some "deepwater" zoas before, light blueoutsidelight green tips and orange center. they rotted from the bottom up unfortunatly

[Norwood IND]

I have some zoanthids that are so-called japanese deepwater. Have kept them under lower-light conditions with moderate flow for the past 8 months.

[ssavader]

These are the new designer zoanthids for anyone with extra money to spend. Only, they are not new, they don't come from deep water (beautifully colored coralmorphians don't come from "deep" water- with little light at depths, producing vibrant colors are an unecessary waste of valuable energy), and likely they are not from Japan. See this informative article from the GlassBox-design.




http://glassbox-design.com/2010/japanese-deepwater-zoanthid/

[MDP]

Agreed on this. It is just a name designed to increase the price. I live in Japan and have also seen a fair few of these colonies in Hong Kong. Invariably when I have managed to find out the origin of the colonies, I am told Vietnam. I have never seen any of the shops that specialise in local fish/corals In Japan offering these morphs and these are people who have been collecting/selling for a living for years. They are available here but never labelled as domestic corals (which over here is a guaranteed way to raise the price). I think that makes for a strong argument against any notion these are Japanese in origin.

[Scopus Tang]

Agree with what was said above, as to the question of hardiness, it depends. The original "deepwaters" were wild collected colonies that were brought in, fragged up, and sold off. They had a pretty lousy survival rate. However, since at least some of what is being offered on the market today are tank raised, they should have a much better survival rate. I would say that source would be key to hardiness.

[Fishinfool]

I always assumed they WERE regular zoas, with a fancy name and price tag.

I shall await clarification from someone more knowledgeable. :)

+1 on that. You can't export zoanthids from Japan

[NorthCoralNewB]

+1 on that. You can't export zoanthids from Japan

Not necessarily...

You are not able to export live rock or lps, or sps...

Technically soft corals such as zoas/palys can as long as there is no live sand or rock attached... but regardless shipping would make any coral cost one kidney...

Japanese Deep Water Zoas is marketing gimmick... they are actually from Sulawesi!

[gweston]

Best way to get the darn marketing gimmicks and price gouging to stop? Dont buy anything with a flashy/custom name or deal with vendors/sources that behave that way. Zoas are just zoas.

[MUCHO REEF]

Best way to get the darn marketing gimmicks and price gouging to stop? Dont buy anything with a flashy/custom name or deal with vendors/sources that behave that way. Zoas are just zoas.


I don't log on much anymore, but just had to just to say...Amen Brother, Amen. With preaching like that, I need to send you an offering. Wow, powerful stuff you just said. Wheeew !!!!:thumbsup:

[90accord]

+1 on the fancy name/price

True True. But hopefully they at least have the fancy colors to somewhat justify the price.

[MUCHO REEF]

True True. But hopefully they at least have the fancy colors to somewhat justify the price.


In my opinion, nothing justifies these prices.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1601087&highlight=pimpin

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1601087&highlight=zoas+prices