View Full Version : Natural vs Gadgety

01/01/2011, 09:56 PM
Is there any one out there that has an awesome looking tank with fish n corals that has a more natural simplified approach and doesn't have thousands of dollars in gadgets

01/01/2011, 10:13 PM
What do you mean by gadgets? I think the answers is yes. But you have to have good lighting, skimming and water circulation. And the same things have to be tended to. I don't have a pH meter, but I have a pH test kit. I'd rather have the monitor.

To drip kalk I used one of these:

Instead of one of these:


Is that what you mean?

And even though i have one of these:


I prefer to use one of these which is just as good once calibrated and if kept clean properly:


01/01/2011, 11:28 PM
I've broken a lot of those "said" rules...

01/01/2011, 11:44 PM
There's an LFS here that has a big tank that is all natural. No skimmer, no filtration other than a DSB & live rock and some powerheads. It's a great tank & has been running for years.

01/02/2011, 12:09 AM
I know sb who has a beautiful skimmerless tank ..it works ...

01/02/2011, 12:11 AM
There's an LFS here that has a big tank that is all natural. No skimmer, no filtration other than a DSB & live rock and some powerheads. It's a great tank & has been running for years.

Any photos. I'd love to see it

01/02/2011, 05:08 AM
i go simple. i stick my finger in the water and let the water drop onto me refractometer, instead of using the water dropper:) all seriousness, gadgets are good some you need, some you want. get the ones you need and go from there.

01/02/2011, 06:57 AM
You can go with a low tech tank. You end up either doing more water changes or limiting the livestock in the tank.

01/02/2011, 07:02 AM
I run an turf algae scrubber in mine and it works great.

01/02/2011, 07:19 AM
I agree with frogman. A large amount of manual water changes can replace all the fancy equipment but I don't have that time to always change water and rely heavily on my equipment especially when I'm gone on business trips:)

01/02/2011, 08:34 AM
i have a 20l, it lives on a hob filter with a sponge and carbon bag, a koralia 750 and thats it, i rely on my rocks and sand to do the rest :) its been up for at least a yr and a half and went from 5gal wc a week to 2.5gal wc a week, i only dose b-ionic on a regular and leave everything else natural :)

Paul B
01/02/2011, 08:42 AM
I have no sump, no reactors, no refractometer and no UV sterilizer. I do have a Reverse UG filter, home made lights and skimmer along with a DIY algae trough. I also have an ozonizer, I built the first one but this one is a commercial model given to me by a member here.
The gravel is dolomite and a lot of the rocks are homemade, some of the water is from the Long Island Sound and thats the water the tank was started with.
I change about 20% of the water 5 or 6 times a year.
The oldest fish now is 16. There was one 18 but I killed it in an accident.

01/02/2011, 11:00 AM
Absolutely you can have a decent tank without a lot of technology, my 265 has ran so far for 6 months no skimmer. no controller, I have my lights on timers but that's about it, the ATO is a $10 float valve attached to a gravity fed reservoir, and flow is provided by one dart. I think that I have been successful due to

Large tank volume >300G= more stability

>300 pounds of live rock, I see thousands of bubbles of nitrogen gas on the surface of the rocks=bacteria doing their job.

frequently changed filter socks= tons of organics removed from the water column

Bare bottom= much cleaner tank

Pendcutors= clean bare bottom

easy to care for corals

I only change about 20g once a month when siphoning the bottom glass.

check out some vids

3 days old


6 months old


01/02/2011, 11:30 AM
Any photos. I'd love to see it

They have a picture on their site, but there's no way to link to it as it's in a flash slideshow. There's a thread on our local forum about it with pics, don't know if I'd get in trouble for linking to it here though.