New BK Cone!

[rob020880]

http://************.com/2011/01/20/bubble-king-double-cones/

Any details yet?

[Jeremy B.]

Forthcoming, very soon! :)

[rkaires]

Forthcoming, very soon! :)

Hey Jeremy,

Any word on the new double cone?

Thanks,

[Jeremy B.]

I have received pricing on them......

180 - $1100
200 - $1300
250 - $1550

It's not definite when, or even if, they will become available in North American market yet outside of special ordering. There are more details that still need to be worked out at this time.

Thanks,
Jeremy

[rkaires]

From RB:
There are three models (180, 200, and 250) in the Bubble King Double cone lineup with each of these skimmers being powered by a direct Mini Red Dragon pump (which is similar to the mini red dragon pump 1500) utilizing a 100mm solid 3D pump head. The Double Cone Bubble King 180 is for aquariums up to 500 liters with adjustable 400-700 liters of air power and retails for 735€ ($990). Expect these new Bubble Kings to be offered in Europe within the next few weeks and shipments have already been planned for the US.

Bubble King Double Cone Model 180 735€ ($990) for aquariums up to 500 liters (adjustable 400-700 liters of air power)
Bubble King Double Cone Model 200 815€ ($1098) for aquariums up to 1000 liters (adjustable 500-1200 liters of air power)
Bubble King Double Cone Model 250 995€ ($1340) for aquariums up to 1500 liters (adjustable 800-1800 liters of air power)

All screws made of pure titanium, grade 2 instead of plastic
Release clamping wedge pipe
Eindüsungspfanne dismantled and removed
Pot with pivoting Absorbatablauf
Foam tube removed due to silicone seal
Bottom of the pot is not made of boards, but from a solid PVC ring, CNC turning
Pot with CNC turned round thread, no dripping, no salt crusts, 100% tight!
Massive and heavy construction of the entire skimmer reduces vibration
Floor plate with 5 piece parabolic rubber buffer from 30 Shore soft natural rubber prevents hum
Silicone decoupling pump skimmer
Extremely quiet Mini Red Dragon Pump, 1000 units already in the mini-series BK
pump head with sea water-resistant titanium screws
Pump also parabolic with rubber feet, acoustically decoupled from the floor
Pump shaft made of special material, like titanium, absolutely unbreakable and sea water resistant
Air-and water-efficient, adjustable
CNC machined wheels made of solid POM-needle sticks, turned and milled
Including ozone connection at the nozzle
Including ozone hose and nipple directly on the wedge tube.
Ozone can be connected directly, without additional air pump
Original quality of Röhm Plexiglas tubes, plastic plates of German premium supplier
Air intake hose …. with 3 mm wall thickness not bent and is sea water resistant
High-precision fabrication, made by Royal-Exclusiv.
Three models available now: 180 – 200 – 250 mm

[rkaires]

The neck diameters look smaller judging by the pictures. I guess we have to wait until more info is released.

[Jeremy B.]

Just another note about the new cone, this is actually not a "double cone", but just a single wine glass body cone skimmer. The only double cone that Royal Exclusiv makes is the Super Marin which came out in '07.

[RobertK]

can someone re-post the link from the original posting?

thx

[solitude127]

What's the difference between these and the Alpha's?

[hirez]

Yeah, one can wonder, cause the difference is perhaps only in the price.

[Jeremy B.]

The new Bubble King cone has a wine glass shaped body, smaller neck, and a pump to match that smaller neck = less air draw and water flow.

[RobertK]

How would that be an improvement over the previous model if there is less air draw and water flow?

[pencil3]

I don't believe there is a "previous model", this is more like a new product line.

How would that be an improvement over the previous model if there is less air draw and water flow?

[rkaires]

How would that be an improvement over the previous model if there is less air draw and water flow?

It would improve performance on systems with lower levels of organics. It will enable it to still build a foam head.

[RobertK]

Thank you, rkaires. What would the new design's effect be on a system with higher levels of organics?

[rkaires]

It would just produce more foam.:)

[RobertK]

More foam = more organics removal than a comparable skimmer (alpha 170) w/ a wider neck?

[mojo~]

More foam = more organics removal than a comparable skimmer (alpha 170) w/ a wider neck?

correct.

[rkaires]

I agree. Case in point, I have a ATB 1050A and a KZ M. The ATB has a 4.7" neck with 45scfh of air and the KZ has a 3.5" neck with 40 scfh of air. The KZ produces as much if not more skimmate than the ATB on the same system.

I think the new BK cones will preform better than the Alpha's.

[Jeremy B.]

More foam does equal more organics, however a bigger neck or smaller neck on a skimmer doesn't make a bit of difference. It's all relative to the amount of air draw the skimmer has in conjunction with the size of the neck it's pushing up into.

Without knowing the air draw on these new cones we can't say for sure if they will indeed create more foam than the Alpha's or not.

[Jeremy B.]

The new Bubble King Cone Skimmers have officially been released for retail pricing and air draw specs. The first shipment is expected in 4-6 weeks.

BK Cone 180 - $1139.99
Air Draw: 400 - 700lph

BK Cone 200 - $1274.99
Air Draw: 500 - 1000lph

BK Cone 250 - $1549.99
Air Draw: 800 - 1800lph

[JG1]

They're beautiful looking skimmers....wow

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JG1inNJ/bubble-king-cone-180-royal-exclusive-1.jpg?t=1296862450

[rkaires]

They are nice looking. My guess is there going to work great like the supermarins.

[rkaires]

Jeremy,

Any information on neck sizes yet?

Thanks,

[Jeremy B.]

I'll send Klaus an email to get specs on neck sizes. That way we can compare air draw ratio to the other RE skimmers out there.

[rkaires]

Sounds good.

[RobertK]

Have the dimensions (footprint, height) been announced?

[Jeremy B.]

Here you guys go.....

Bubble King Cone 180 - $1139.99
Footprint: 9.8" x 13.4"
Height: 20.8"
Neck Diameter: 3.9"
Air Draw: 400 - 700lph
http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/RE-PS-DC180.html

Bubble King Cone 200 - $1274.99
Footprint: 10.6" x 14.5"
Height: 21.6"
Neck Diameter: 4.9"
Air Draw: 500 - 1000lph
http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/RE-PS-DC200.html

Bubble King Cone 250 - $1549.99
Footprint: 12.6" x 16.9"
Height: 23.2"
Neck Diameter: 5.9"
Air Draw: 800 - 1800lph
http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/RE-PS-DC250.html

[RobertK]

Thanks, Jeremy! :)

[rkaires]

looks good.

Thanks,

[Enzel]

would the 180 be enough for a 210g tank?

[RobertK]

Click the link in Jeremy's post - the 180 is rated up to 130 gallons. I think you'd want the 200.

[Jeremy B.]

Keep in mind these are pretty conservative ratings from the manuf. I would trust the 180 up to about 200g, depending on stock load.

[hirez]

Any more tests on this?
Would want to know how it compares to the expensive supermarines...
these seem better priced somehow..

[Luxo]

I saw these in Germany, they are really small. The reaction chamber is much smaller than Alpha or even minis maybe. Hence the smaller tank rating.
I would stick to Alpha or ATB.
Also the air draw is much less.

[Jeremy B.]

The air draw being less is not that big of an issue, as it has a smaller neck to match that. The Alpha's have much higher air draw, but they also have a much larger neck.

The Super Marin is still the top performer in my opinion, it's going to be hard to beat that skimmer.

[hirez]

m just noticed that they have supermarines better priced than bubble king.
Whats up with this? theres a rd 2000 in the 250 supermarines, but its still cheaper than a buble king. The double cone uses a rd 1500 so it even though neck is smaller, its still pretty good pumps...
For a 250 gallon, which of these would be best (with a little room to upgrade of course..)

[ludiNano]

supermarin's are made by BK?

[Jeremy B.]

Yes, the Super Marin, Bubble King Delux's, Mini BK's, Vertex Alpha's, and the new Bubble King Cone are all made by Royal-Exclusiv.

[hirez]

Soo, theres in no big difference in a supermariens and a Bubble King?
Which means a lot cheaper for me to get supermariens in Eu anyway :)

[Jeremy B.]

Correct, they are two different designs made by the same manufacturer. In my opinion the Super Marin is the best performing skimmer on the market.

[hirez]

Thanks for confirming my idea, in this hobby its really not only the price but important to buy something that you know will bring you years of quality operation.
Soon to join the BK club :)

[rob020880]

What is the ideal sump water level for these guys.

[Jeremy B.]

I am not sure of sump depth on these yet.

[RobertK]

Any new news on these?

[JasonYu]

which one is the best choice for me?(Money is 2nd choice)

400G FOT

BK 300
SM 300
alpha 300
cone 250
.....

[Jeremy B.]

which one is the best choice for me?(Money is 2nd choice)

400G FOT

BK 300
SM 300
alpha 300
cone 250
.....

Alpha 250.... The 300 models are too big, not matter which model line you look at, and the Alpha 250 will be cheaper than the BK Cone 250, giving you more bang for the buck.

[Euler Kernighan]

Hi Jeremy!

Sorry my friend, but I get confused here. :spin1:

As you said:
Correct, they are two different designs made by the same manufacturer. In my opinion the Super Marin is the best performing skimmer on the market.

Is Super Marin superior in performance? Why?

Alpha 250.... The 300 models are too big, not matter which model line you look at, and the Alpha 250 will be cheaper than the BK Cone 250, giving you more bang for the buck.

Thinking about a setup with 800g what is the best option?
- Bubble King Super Marin 300 with Red Dragon II; or
- Vertex Cone Alpha 300

Please, don't consider the costs, just performance and your personal experience.

And a dumb question, is it SuperMarin or Supermarine and is it comes with Red Dragon OR Red Dragon II? Is it an optional?

Here's the picture of the Bubble King Supermarin or Supermarin 300, right?
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6933/bubblekingsupermarin300.png

[Jeremy B.]

If cost is not of a concern then in my opinion I would go with the Super Marin. I think the Super Marin is the strongest pinwheel / venturi skimmer available on the market. That is a photo of the SM300 you posted.

[JG1]

any news?

[Jeremy B.]

Still nothing. I'm not counting anything with these soon, if they do come into North America at all right now.

[golfoo]

Hello,yesterday arrived the first ones to Spain!!one of them was for me!!here you have some pics and a short video of it!

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/9548b700.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/f0a9b3ad.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/dcbc2732.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/ec05f2fe.jpg

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/be97df40.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/e1a708ae.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/29218c07.jpg



http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/th_083cad1f.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/?action=view&current=083cad1f.mp4)

as you see there it is starting to get out dust and was only about 20 minutes on!!

[Radar1]

I have heard a similar rumor that these or no BK skimmers in general will be comming to the states. is there any update on the status of BK skimmers in the U.S.?

[Jeremy B.]

There was just a big shipment of BK skimmers that arrived in North America last week. That is nothing more than just a rumor. However, I can tell you that I am unsure if the new BK cone will come to North America or not though. There just isn't any demand for that particular skimmer over here.

[Radar1]

There just isn't any demand for that particular skimmer over here.

I want one but I already have a BK skimmer and it works great. I bet it would gain in popularity once its been put to use and some good reviews start circulating.

[rkaires]

Any word on these Jeremy?

[Jeremy B.]

No, and unfortunately I doubt we will see these for sale over here in the states, unless it was special ordered and you didn't mind waiting 6-10 weeks.

[OliverM3]

I have to say I have been interested in the cone for a while so I thought what the heck.
I found that I could order the 250 directly from Germany for less than buying one in the US. http://www.sewatec.de/index.php
They were great for around $1350 I picked up the 250 cone in about a week.
I had forgotten to specify 110v but they caught it before shipping my order.

Wow is all I can say this thing is massive!
I'm replacing a BK mini 160 that I've been waiting to replace.
It started out on my 76 gallon with a tiny under the stand sump.
Now I have the 76, 100 gallon frag tank, 40 gallon macro tank and 100g sump. The mini was still doing great but I knew it was time for an upgrade.
Especially since I want to upgrade the display and perhaps add something in the office.

Within 3 minutes this skimmer was already building a foam head. I'm impressed! Even with a new skimmer and the plastic toat lid I needed to put in the sump to make the stand big enough to support the bigger footprint.
I'll need to figure out a more permanent solution but this will do for now.

The screw on collection cup I'm still unsure of. I do like the BK mini style that's a snug fit cup but we'll see.

I still need to tweak it because it's running wide open so I'll post some picks after a few days but here are some from today.

Once again this proves you just can't go wrong with a BK I don't care if it costs more there's something to be said for set it and forget it.
I have enough work to do with the tank I don't need a finicky skimmer.


http://home.comcast.net/~oliver1071/bk/DSCF3656.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~oliver1071/bk/DSCF3665.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~oliver1071/bk/IMG_1131.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~oliver1071/bk/IMG_1132.JPG

[Jeremy B.]

Looks great, keep us posted on how it works for you.

[OliverM3]

Looks great, keep us posted on how it works for you.

Thanks Jeremy,
So far so good it's skimming great the throat seems to stay cleaner. I don't know if it's just the size compared to my Mini 160 but the chunks of skimmate that would build up in the throat of the 160 are being pushed into the cup with the 250 cone.

I did mess up a little with the Mini 160. I can't believe a bleach and water soak caused some crazing on my 160's collection cup inner ring.
It still works fine and doesn't leak or seep. But now I have to blow it out for next to nothing on ebay since it's not as pretty as it once was. :headwallblue:

Oh well live and learn do not use bleach or even hot water on acrylic.

[OliverM3]

Everything is working out great I'll definitely recommend the cone to my friends the recovery time after feeding or major work like me changing 50% of my substrate is faster than my bk mini.
I do like the cup that lifts off of the mini better than the screw on cup but other than that the 250 cone performs much better than my mini 160.
This is about at day of running.

http://home.comcast.net/~oliver1071/bk/IMG_1157.JPG

[rkaires]

Any updates?

[Todd100]

Is the adjustable pump used on the 180 available for purchase or order. I have an ATB Mikro (not happy with the pump on it) with the same neck size and similar dimensions.

[coral2002]

Is it available in US yet?

[ksed]

Is it available in US yet?

Read Jeremy's quote above

[OliverM3]

Is it available in US yet?


The only place I've seen preorders is Aquarium Specialty http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/protein-skimmers/internal-skimmers/bubble-king-internal-skimmers

But they're still $200-$300 more than ordering it direct and aren’t expected till February.

[Jeremy B.]

I can almost guarantee they will not be getting them.

[OliverM3]

I can almost guarantee they will not be getting them.

So why do you think there's so little interest for the cone in the US?
They work great and they're around the same price as the mini.

[Jeremy B.]

The price of them here in the states will make them a hard sell compared to the Alpha's. The Mini's fill a niche that the Alpha, Super Marin, and Delux model does not fill - compact design. Having said that, I think they're a great skimmer, and looks wise one of the coolest ones available on the market. :)

[LittleBurger]

Hello,yesterday arrived the first ones to Spain!!one of them was for me!!here you have some pics and a short video of it!

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/9548b700.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/f0a9b3ad.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/dcbc2732.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/ec05f2fe.jpg

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/be97df40.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/e1a708ae.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/29218c07.jpg



http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/th_083cad1f.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/golfoo89/?action=view&current=083cad1f.mp4)

as you see there it is starting to get out dust and was only about 20 minutes on!!Hi! I've joined the BK cone family. Got a BK double cone 200, same as yrs.
How do u tune yr skimmer? Was told by royal exlcusiv to adjust the water level to the resonator(input to the siliencer) for best performance.
How do you adjust the white knob on the pump?
Thanks. Hope to get the best performance from it.

[OliverM3]

Hi! I've joined the BK cone family. Got a BK double cone 200, same as yrs.
How do u tune yr skimmer? Was told by royal exlcusiv to adjust the water level to the resonator(input to the siliencer) for best performance.
How do you adjust the white knob on the pump?
Thanks. Hope to get the best performance from it.

I don't know if I could get the water level up that high I'm about 3/4's of the way up and I'm already skimming super wet.
as for the pump I've screwed out the restricter for the pump all the way out.
I still haven't found any reason to restrict the air going in to the pump.

I haven't really played around with it though it's running nice wide open.

[LittleBurger]

I don't know if I could get the water level up that high I'm about 3/4's of the way up and I'm already skimming super wet.
as for the pump I've screwed out the restricter for the pump all the way out.
I still haven't found any reason to restrict the air going in to the pump.

I haven't really played around with it though it's running nice wide open.
My sump water level is abt 21.5cm. I've adjusted the water level at the resonator level. The white knob is turn anticlkwise 1 round from fully clkwise position.
I read from a chinese website and it mentioned the white knob is to control air water ration, but it didn't mention much about clkwise will have more air less water.
However, looking at the bottom compartment of the skimmer, white knob in anticlkwise position will see an increase of air bubbles. I guess white knob in anticlkwise will have more air less water.

I find that with the white knob in anticlkwise position, skimate is more wet, in clkwise is more dry.

[LittleBurger]

Any BK cone users want to update on their unit?

[HiggyBrew]

Just ordered a Bubble King Double Cone 200 with the new Red Dragon 3 skimmer pump (controllable speed 400-4000 rpm), or some call it the "RD3 Mini", or "RD3 Speedy". Don't know when I'll get it yet... :mad:

Does anyone out there have this combo running yet?
If so, how is it running and do you have any tips?

[Jeremy B.]

Yours will be the first Double Cone I've seen with the RD3 Speedy Pump. Definitely keep us posted and get some pics up once you get it!

[HiggyBrew]

I ordered the Bubble King Double Cone 200 with RD3 Speedy pump on Feb 28, 2013 from Sewatec. Today, March 4th - the my order is still pending. Their website says that they are on company holiday from March 4th until the 8th, and orders go out starting March 11th. So it looks like it may take a while coming from Germany to Michigan. This will give me time to clean up my sump, gotta look at the bright side!

[Klaus Jansen]

Mini BK200, Double-Cones 180 and 200, Supermarines 200 and Deluxe 200 are aviable now with the new Red Dragon Speedy Pumps in 120Volt/60 Hz. 2500 Liter-Airintake-Speedys are comming soon in US-Voltage....

In Europe, 50 % of all BK-Skimmers go out with the new Red Dragon Speedy-Pumps. Very silent Pumps and full with massive Titanium-Stuff.

Please ask your Dealers....

regards... Klaus

[TheReefKeeper]

Wow that's a good looking pump right their ^!!

Thanks for sharing Klaus!!

[Jeremy B.]

Looks awesome..... Now to get the Double Cones and Mini's in here with the RD3 Speedy pump! Hopefully soon! :)

[jrizo1]

Is the vertex alpha skimmer that bulk reef supply sells the same as BK double cone?

[Jeremy B.]

The BK Double Cone is different from the Alpha you're seeing on that site. The Alpha's are a straight cone, while the Double Cone (not really a double cone at all), is just a wine glass body shape.

[jrizo1]

The BK Double Cone is different from the Alpha you're seeing on that site. The Alpha's are a straight cone, while the Double Cone (not really a double cone at all), is just a wine glass body shape.

Wich one will you recommend? As far as performance not worry about price
Thanks

[jrizo1]

I want to order a skimmer from just web site i really like the bubble king skimmers what will you recommend?
my tank is a 90gal with a 30g sump
mix reef with lost of fish
thanks
jose rizo

[ksed]

Looks awesome..... Now to get the Double Cones and Mini's in here with the RD3 Speedy pump! Hopefully soon! :)

any word on how soon?

[Jeremy B.]

There is a batch of the skimmers being built, but there is not shipping time frame on them.

[HiggyBrew]

Bubble King Double Cone 200 with Reef Dragon 3 speedy pump.

Ordered Feb 28th, got it April 8th and it was worth the wait!
Runs like a dream. I gave it a 2 hour water/vinegar run and rinsed off. Put it in the sump and dialed it in. It arrived in perfect shape. I love the control on the RD3 Speedy. It shows % power when you adjust it, then watts continuously after. I'm running at 28 watts (max 50) and wedge pipe wide open. Great control of foam level just by adjusting pump.
I may have a live video feed of it here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/higgyreef
:beer:

[Klaus Jansen]

@HiggyBrew...

Thanks for the friendly Comment about the new RD3-Speedy Skimmerpumps....Hope, the new BK´s comming now to US. The 110 Volt/60 Hz Speedys are on Stock and aviable...

best regards.. Klaus Jansen

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/DSC06584-1_zpsc0bcfda4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/658_0_zps6b337eee.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/DSC05005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/DSC07261_zps439917e3.jpg

[strittmatter]

Which bk mini's are the RD3-Speedy Skimmerpumps available on?

[ksed]

The BK mini's with the RD3 pump actually have a different size.

[Klaus Jansen]

@Strittmatter...

yet the Moment, only the Modell Mini BK 200 include RD3-Speedy.....aviable with 110 Volt/ 60 Hz Controller.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/DSC06291-1_zps503ac535.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/royal-exclusiv/media/DSC06291-1_zps503ac535.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/DSC06297-1_zpsc96c95ea.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/royal-exclusiv/media/DSC06297-1_zpsc96c95ea.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/DSC06304-1_zpsf4f55382.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/royal-exclusiv/media/DSC06304-1_zpsf4f55382.jpg.html)

regards.. Klaus

[unze]

Those dream box sumps are amazing. So clean and tidy.

[Jeremy B.]

Hopefully Dreambox sumps will be available towards middle to end of summer here in North America! :)

[Pseudo69]

So which skimmers are available in US with the RD3 pump?

Thanks

[Klaus Jansen]

Aviable now include RD3-Speedy Skimmerpumps 110/60 Hz :

* Mini BK 200
* Double-Cone 170
* Double-Cone 200
* Supermarines 200
* DeLuxe 200

regards... Klaus

[Pseudo69]

Klaus, I don't see the Double Cone 170 on your website. I only see the 180. Who are the distributors here in the US for the Double cone 170 with RD3 and what is the price?

Thanks

[Jeremy B.]

We have an order that I am finalizing right now for a lot of the new Royal-Exclusiv products that should be coming in here soon. We will also be stocking replacements parts for all of the skimmers now as well.

[jellygeee]

Jeremy: Any idea of the prices for the dreambox sumps (along with the skimmer & return pump)?

[Jeremy B.]

DreamBox sumps will not be a reality just yet in North America unless you're willing to the large freight cost of shipping one on a pallet by itself via air freight to the US. I can tell you when we brought in a Bubble King 650 External for a customer a couple of years ago it was around $500 - $600, so figure freight on the DreamBox would be just a little bit under that. You can then check out the DreamBox sumps on www.royalexclusiv.net and multiply the cost of the sump by the average current exchange rate of 1.3 and you'll have the price in US dollars.

[thelostrican]

Hey Jeremy when do you get the supermarin 200

[Pseudo69]

Jeremy,

Is there a Double Cone 170 model or just a 180 model? What size tank is the 170/180 good for? What will the price be for them?

Thanks

[Klaus Jansen]

@Pseudo69...

it´s the Modell Double-Cone 180, the Modell 170 was the first Prototypes.. serial is now 180 ...

Hope it helps....

best regards... Klaus

[moondoggy4]

Tagging along with @Pseudo on the smaller double cone skimmer.

[Jeremy B.]

Hey Jeremy when do you get the supermarin 200

We should see them back in here in about 2-3 weeks.

[english7]

I've just ordered the double cone 180 with the rd3 speedy. I'm interested to know what positive effects the upgraded pump has on this skimmer. I was restricted to this skimmer because of size and just hope it can handle my 500 litre sps system?

[Jeremy B.]

I have yet to run an RD3 Speedy powered skimmer, or a Double Cone at that, so I'm not going to be much help until we get our first ones in here.

[HiggyBrew]

I've just ordered the double cone 180 with the rd3 speedy. I'm interested to know what positive effects the upgraded pump has on this skimmer. I was restricted to this skimmer because of size and just hope it can handle my 500 litre sps system?

My system is about 570L and is heavily stocked (IMO), I have the Double Cone 200 with the RD3 Speedy pump. I am currently running it at 1/2 power with the wedge cut in a little. I'm sure I could have ran just as well with the 180 but dicided to go larger in case I upgrade my tank someday. Here is a live feed (you may need to check back later if it isn't working): http://www.ustream.tv/channel/higgyreef

[Jeremy B.]

Looks the skimmer is running really well, thanks for sharing!

[HiggyBrew]

Better view today, (Bubble King Double Cone 200 with Reef Dragon 3 Speedy Pump).
Check back later if the video crapped out... Sorry about the 15 second add at the start...
Looks like it just shut down, I love computers! I'll get it running later tonight, sorry...

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/higgyreef

[Pseudo69]

Jeremy,

What is the price going to be for the 200 DK with RD3 pump? What does availability look like ? My time frame is end of June beginning of July. I think I need the 200 over the 180 because I will be running a 120g with 30g sump (actual water) heavy bio-load and SPS dominate tank. What do you think?

Thanks

[Jeremy B.]

As soon as they land I will have pricing on them, probably a week and a half from now. I would suggest sticking with the 180 (7" body), instead of the 200 (8" body). An 8" body on a tank that is under 160ish gallons display wise is just too much in my opinion.

[Pseudo69]

The 180 says good for tanks up to 500L which is 132g. Will it be able to handle the load?

[Jeremy B.]

Yes, the 180 will go up to 160g or so with no problem at all, that's with a heavy load.

[OffDaHook]

Jeremy - I would like to buy a 180 with a RD3 Speedy pump. Please keep us posted. Am ready to place the order.

Thanks

John

[OffDaHook]

Jeremy any updates? If not its cool am going to place the order oversea but I would prefer to deal with you guys.

[Jeremy B.]

The shipment is in the states, just waiting on it to show up.

[OffDaHook]

The shipment is in the states, just waiting on it to show up.

This is Great news!

[SaltWater226]

Is that better than http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/CV-DCS-250INT.html ?

[n-kleine]

@Pseudo69...

it´s the Modell Double-Cone 180, the Modell 170 was the first Prototypes.. serial is now 180 ...

Hope it helps....

best regards... Klaus

Hello Klaus. Any thoughts on making a hang on skimmer for us guys without a sump that want bubble king performance?

[Jeremy B.]

This is Great news!

These skimmers are in stock and ready to ship.

[thelostrican]

Good stuff I should be ordering this week, but do you have replacement pumps and impellers for them, I have owned my mini 200 for like 3 or 4 years now, and had one pump fail early on, thx fully I was able to replace it with a laguna 1500... I don't think I can do it this time with the dc pump...

Also no more supermarine 250? Just double cone? How about the deluxe?

[Jeremy B.]

We do not at this time, however we can have parts in from Royal-Exclusiv in a matter of days now, no longer weeks like it was before. And that includes all parts for any skimmer.

[thelostrican]

Which way to go i am torn between the supermarine 250 or the double cone...
Supermarine for me the best skimmers period. Can put a laguna in there...
Or the new double cone with dc pump...

Which way would you go for 240 or so of water...

[Jeremy B.]

I'm assuming this is a 180g display? There's no way I'd go with a 250 series skimmer on that, which is a 10" body. Stick with an 8" body - 200 series, either way you go. You'll be much happier with the performance it will be more than enough to handle your system.

Super Marin's are awesome, but I think I'd lean towards the Double Cone 200 with the DC pump.

[thelostrican]

18p dt+40 frag tank+40 sump. You prefer the doble coneany particular reason...

[Jeremy B.]

I'm really liking the new DC pump, which is why I'm leaning that way. The Super Marin is still one beast of a skimmer though! Definitely stick with the 8" body though, 10" body is going to end up giving you spotty performance.

[azjohnny]

Is the Supermarin 250 available with the Speedy pump yet?

[Jeremy B.]

It is out, but they have not been brought in here in North America yet, only the Double Cone with the DC pump at this time, which we do have them in stock.

[Tanthaitrung]

Hi Jeremy,

My name is Khanh, from Vietnam.

My display tank: 900 liters + sump: 180 liters with heavy stock. I can run with Buble King Double Cone 200 + RD3 speedy?

Someone told me must run double volume that manufacturer recommend. Is that right?

Can I buy things from Premium Aquatics with my debit card but shipping address in US?

Thanks in advance
Khanh

[Tanthaitrung]

Hi Jeremy,

My name is Khanh, from Vietnam.

My display tank: 900 liters + sump: 180 liters with heavy stock. I can run with Buble King Double Cone 200 + RD3 speedy?

Someone told me must run double volume that manufacturer recommend. Is that right?

Can I buy things from Premium Aquatics with my debit card but shipping address in US?

Thanks in advance
Khanh

[Jeremy B.]

Hi Khanh, for your size system a 200 series Bubble King is exactly what I would suggest. The RD3 powered Double Cone 200 would be a perfect setup for this system.

[Tanthaitrung]

Hi Khanh, for your size system a 200 series Bubble King is exactly what I would suggest. The RD3 powered Double Cone 200 would be a perfect setup for this system.
Thanks so much Jeremy,

Can I buy things from Premium Aquatics with my debit card but shipping address in US?

Regards
Khanh

[Jeremy B.]

Yes, we will just need to verify a few extra pieces of information after the order comes through. Once the order comes through we will contact you for this.

[Tanthaitrung]

Thanks for your information

Regards
Khanh

[OliverM3]

Figured I'd follow-up.
2 years just flew by since buying the 250.
Still running great!
This really is a set it and forget it skimmer.
I haven't had to touch it in two years I just clean it once a week.

This hobby really gives new meaning to you get what you paid for.
Everything I've splurged on which seemed so much higher priced than anything else has really taken my tank to a whole new level.

[Jeremy B.]

Thanks for the update! Glad to hear the skimmer is kicking some butt for you!