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EllisJuan
02/02/2011, 07:16 PM
I am looking for a skimmer for my 65g. It is going to have a pretty decent bio-load. My problem is space under my tank is limited. The footprint needs to be less the 7x10 and the shorter the better. I am really looking for power in a compact design.

Can anyone give me some suggestions?

Felixc395
02/02/2011, 07:28 PM
Super reef octopus xp 1000 SSS! The super sump saver part is ideal in your situation! Will work AWESOME!!! :) :) :)

tkeracer619
02/02/2011, 08:10 PM
super reef octopus xp 1000 sss! The super sump saver part is ideal in your situation! Will work awesome!!! :) :) :)

+1

HaroldT
02/02/2011, 08:20 PM
Go with an Aqua Euro Cone Skimmer.

http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/H-AECS200I.html

I am running their in sump classic and have loved it for a few years now. Freakin works great.

cobra9
02/02/2011, 08:22 PM
best small sump skimmer you will find is going to be a BK mini160.

octo sss isnt bad tho.

Felixc395
02/02/2011, 09:24 PM
Bubble king would be nice, not doubt about that. I've heard good things about the aqua euro, but the build looks a little odd. Are they well built or not? That's a big factor. Another key aspect is the pump. Octopus uses the bubble blaster which is awesome, and the bubble king uses some pump (not really sure) that is probably a beast.

Best bang for your buck, reef octopus! If you can go for the bubble king, then that really will be your best option. But otherwise a xp 1000 SSS will work perfect and a little easier on the wallet.

gonpostal
02/02/2011, 09:55 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think any of the above skimmers has a footprint that's less than 7". You're not gonna have many options with such a small footprint. The Eshopps PSK 75 (http://www.aquacave.com/eshopps-psk-75-in-sump-brprotein-skimmer-10-75-gal-brtank-2862.html) has a footprint of 9"x4", and the PSK 100 (http://www.aquacave.com/eshopps-psk-100-in-sump-brprotein-skimmer-75-100-gal-brtank-2858.html) has a footprint of 10"x5". If it'll fit, I'd go with the PSK 100.

tkeracer619
02/02/2011, 10:00 PM
If you can't fit that one then you can fit the SWC 160 cone.

http://www.swcskimmers.com/product2.html

EllisJuan
02/03/2011, 01:06 AM
How about a Bubble Magus NAC5A...anyone have any experience with them? Dimensions are: 8.6" * 6.3" * 19.6 "

http://www.bubble-magus.com/en/productShow.asp?id=967

sneaton
02/03/2011, 10:05 AM
swc 160 cone has some great reviews.....i just ordered one for my 75 gallon dt with 12 gallon sump

ostrow
02/03/2011, 10:11 AM
How about a Bubble Magus NAC5A...anyone have any experience with them? Dimensions are: 8.6" * 6.3" * 19.6 "

http://www.bubble-magus.com/en/productShow.asp?id=967

They are quite good. You'll be happy.

Midnightsun
02/03/2011, 11:44 AM
The SWC 160 is a killer package. I have one and am really pleased. If you need a smaller footprint than the 160, take a look at the 120, just as awesome. do a search on ebay as one seller there has about the same price as everyone but has free shipping so it's a little cheaper.

k.tran
02/03/2011, 11:47 AM
Id say wait for the ATI powercones they look awesome and they are TINY.

ostrow
02/03/2011, 01:12 PM
Nothing to wait for. They are available. The 160 won't fit in his space.

NyReefNoob
02/03/2011, 02:01 PM
powercone isnt avail in us yet, cause if it is i better get mine this week, another monster if your stocking heavy is the etts sump buddy 40 real small footprint and a kick arse skimmer

ostrow
02/03/2011, 02:21 PM
My bad. Person I know with one has a beta model.

evsalty
02/03/2011, 02:30 PM
I have space issues under my 40br as you can see in the pic below. My sump skimmer section is 10"x12" but my height limit is 20". Finding a skimmer that fits under there is tough but as you can see the SWC 120 fit with plenty of room to spare. I think the 160 would have fit but I would not have had room to remove the cup. The 120 will fit your 7" dimension as well.

http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu343/evsalty/40br/sumpplumbing.jpg

EllisJuan
02/05/2011, 02:12 AM
I think I have decided to go with the SWC cone. I am just trying to pick between the 120 or the 160. Do you think the 120 will be enough? I would prefer it because of the size, but I think I could fit the 160 if the 120 can't get the job done.

Midnightsun
02/05/2011, 05:08 AM
The price difference is negligible between the 120 and 160. If the 160 fits well dimensionally, get the 160. I run the 160 on a 50g tank and 11g actual sump for a total of 61g. Is it overkill? Probably but works extremely well.

http://i51.*******.com/23ml9uo.jpg

badazztealcobra
02/05/2011, 06:14 AM
If you can fit the SWC160, definitely go with it.....

If the price is too high, I would do an SWC150 BMK over the 120 based on your tank size.... It's not a Cone, but it's also $75-80 cheaper than the SWC160.

http://blog.captive-aquatics.com/.a/6a010535f11c3d970c0147e1db2876970b-500wi

evsalty
02/05/2011, 04:20 PM
I think I have decided to go with the SWC cone. I am just trying to pick between the 120 or the 160. Do you think the 120 will be enough? I would prefer it because of the size, but I think I could fit the 160 if the 120 can't get the job done.

If you can fit the 160 then def get the 160. I only went with the 120 because I did not want to fight to get the cup off of it. That 150 does look good too.

EllisJuan
02/11/2011, 08:53 PM
What is the advantage of the cone? I am either going to go with the 150 BMK or cone 160. They have the same pump, and are rated for the almost the same bio-load by SWC. The BMK is $75 cheaper and has a little smaller footprint.

The Donald
02/12/2011, 10:54 AM
i have the 150 on my 75...its silent and works great

gldnegle76
02/12/2011, 04:45 PM
What is the advantage of the cone? I am either going to go with the 150 BMK or cone 160. They have the same pump, and are rated for the almost the same bio-load by SWC. The BMK is $75 cheaper and has a little smaller footprint.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1945454&highlight=cone+skimmer

That question is still open for debate. The above link is just one of many discussing this. I have a 160 cone on a 46 gal. DT with 20 gal. sump, works great.

EllisJuan
02/12/2011, 08:37 PM
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1945454&highlight=cone+skimmer

That question is still open for debate. The above link is just one of many discussing this. I have a 160 cone on a 46 gal. DT with 20 gal. sump, works great.

Thanks for the link! I think I am going to go with the 150 BMK. I think it should be enough for the 65g.

EllisJuan
02/13/2011, 12:58 AM
Ordered the SWC 150 BMK. I hope I made a good choice.

coralreefdoc
02/13/2011, 02:00 AM
Thanks for the link! I think I am going to go with the 150 BMK. I think it should be enough for the 65g.


I think you'll be alot more pleased with the 160 cone long term. Better to spend the extra $75 now. IME cone skimmers increase, and almost force, if you will, contact time as the H2O/O2 mixture works its way up the cone design into the neck of the skimmer where the real action occurs. Worth the extra money long term (160 cone) on similarly rated skimmers IMO

EllisJuan
02/13/2011, 01:21 PM
I think you'll be alot more pleased with the 160 cone long term. Better to spend the extra $75 now. IME cone skimmers increase, and almost force, if you will, contact time as the H2O/O2 mixture works its way up the cone design into the neck of the skimmer where the real action occurs. Worth the extra money long term (160 cone) on similarly rated skimmers IMO

I already ordered the 150 BMK. I had not read any truly conclusive information that justified spending the extra $75. From what I read, everyone that owns the 150 BMK is happy with the performance.

EllisJuan
02/17/2011, 01:00 PM
It's here.... :)

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd214/TahoeDust/f72041fa.jpg


I'll post some pictures when it is setup and running. Can anyone give memsome setup, break in, and tuning tips?

gldnegle76
02/17/2011, 01:39 PM
What I did with my 160 cone is leave air wide open, adjust initial water level to just under white ring that supports the stand pipe (to lessen possibility of overflow), and I started getting a foam head in about two days (your mileage may vary).
However, with the 150 BMK, you may can set the water level at the white ring, or even in the cone shaped area to start.

EllisJuan
02/17/2011, 06:24 PM
Got it setup in my little sump...barely fit...haha. The build quality seems great, the packaging was awesome, and it is DEAD silent. If it skims as well for me as it has for others, I dont know how you can beat it for $200.

Up and running:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd214/TahoeDust/344a4427.jpg


You can see where I set the water level, do you think that is the best spot for break in?

skimmy
02/18/2011, 07:18 AM
Got it setup in my little sump...barely fit...haha. The build quality seems great, the packaging was awesome, and it is DEAD silent. If it skims as well for me as it has for others, I dont know how you can beat it for $200.


You can see where I set the water level, do you think that is the best spot for break in?

+1 ... :)

and your water level is good for break in, i'd leave it.