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andrewsky
02/18/2011, 06:43 PM
i had 3 tangs two died unfortunately from having ick. of course not the presents of ick but they had ick and thought they were getting cleaned by my emerald crabs but they actually were getting eaten :(. but my blue hippo hasnt been infected with ick so far knock on wood. he eats like a pig though so he gets alot of the nutrition i feed my tank. but just wondering he had did fine with the other two tangs he loved them too, so im wondering if i would be good to get just one more tang (eibili mimic or yellow) or an angelfish (flame). he hasnt shown any aggression and i've had him for 2 and half months and 1 month without the two tangs. so just wondering if i could get a flame angel or a yellow or eibili mimic tang? also my tank is 120 gallons and with great water parameters and for the angel wondering if he'll be fine with a mixed reef coral tank?

davocean
02/18/2011, 07:44 PM
Well, I personally would not buy anything until you are absolutely certain there is no ich, and I would probably wait about a month to be certain.
Next, your hippo alone is going to outgrow that tank if it hasn't already, tangs need swim space.
I would not keep more than one small tang in a 120g.
Some will say otherwise, but this is where you begin to stress your fish, make them vulnerable to things like ich.
You should read this.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1946007
As for the flame angel, should be ok, semi reef safe, some nip sps, but again, wait till you are absolutely certain your tank has no ich.

Toddrtrex
02/18/2011, 07:46 PM
Davo said it better then I would have -- and I agree completely with what he said.

andrewsky
02/18/2011, 08:07 PM
so what should i look for, signs of no ick. the basic of seeing it on fish. i also have a UV sterilizer, but what other signs are there for seeing if there is no ick in your system?

thanks

davocean
02/18/2011, 08:24 PM
The cycle of ich needs to be broken, just having no sign of it for a little bit does not mean it is completely gone.
Some people break down and go fallow for about 6 weeks when they get ich.
To wait a month is nothing compared to what may happen if you just keep plugging away like nothing happened.
Take a breather, read up for a bit.

Chris27
02/19/2011, 07:57 AM
Remove the Hippo to QT, as well as any other fish that may be in there. Leave the tank fallow (fishless) for 5 weeks, with the temperature set to 80-81F.

While the Hippo is in QT, pick a treatment for Crypt and run with it.

If you want another fish, get it and throw it in with the hippo, just be sure to QT all fish for approximately 2-3 weeks if you use copper sulfate, 4-6 weeks if you use cupramine, or 4-6 if you use Hyposalinity.

andrewsky
02/19/2011, 12:29 PM
k sounds good. but i have corals, i wouldnt be able to treat the tank right?, and how could i catch the fish that i have because i have like 6 other fish.

yeloowtang
02/19/2011, 03:27 PM
corect!! you can`t treat the main tank and as for catching the fish.
the best way is a trap with food inside (like the a 2 litter bottle trap)
some are easy othesr are just to smart :) and will demand patience..
can be done but you should have lots of fun :spin1:

davocean
02/19/2011, 03:35 PM
I just drain the dang tank.
I find this to be the quickest and least invasive/stressful way.
Just drain into clean barrels or container, grab fish, and pump the water back in tank.
Your corals will be fine out of water for the time it takes to do this.

125G Reefer
02/19/2011, 06:26 PM
Use Copper. Its the best way to kill ICH and most of the other parasites.

chimmike
02/19/2011, 06:50 PM
Use Copper. Its the best way to kill ICH and most of the other parasites.

I totally disagree with using copper in the display tank!

Let the tank go fallow (fish-less) for 8 weeks. Snorvich has posted some repeated info in many threads on ich over the past few weeks.

almostazoo
02/19/2011, 07:40 PM
I really dont think he meant the DT on the copper treatment

cakemanPA
02/19/2011, 09:37 PM
If the fish are already stressed, copper will finish the job on certain fish.

Chris27
02/20/2011, 08:15 AM
If the fish are already stressed, copper will finish the job on certain fish.

Untrue, properly dosed copper will not kill a stressed fish.

Chris27
02/20/2011, 08:18 AM
I just drain the dang tank.
I find this to be the quickest and least invasive/stressful way.
Just drain into clean barrels or container, grab fish, and pump the water back in tank.
Your corals will be fine out of water for the time it takes to do this.

Completely agree, I have found this to be the easiest way also. Just make sure to turn off your halides if you have them, you don't want them cooking the corals. FWIW, coral can be left out of water for quite some time, provided it stays wet. Too ease your mind, you can splash some water on them while your catching the fish.

125G Reefer
02/20/2011, 10:30 AM
I totally disagree with using copper in the display tank!

Let the tank go fallow (fish-less) for 8 weeks. Snorvich has posted some repeated info in many threads on ich over the past few weeks.

He's puttin gthe fish in QT dude.........

125G Reefer
02/20/2011, 10:32 AM
I really dont think he meant the DT on the copper treatment

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