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jonnybravo22
03/05/2011, 05:33 PM
hello all!

i just picked up 3 carberryi anthias! i'm super excited, this is my first group of anthias and they are beautiful! i have them in QT --

my plan is to get them eating in QT first, then run a little copper, and maybe some prazipro? i have heard prazipro is recommended for fluke prevention / treatment in anthias especially, is that right?

1. anything else i should do in particular?
2. anyone know how to sex them? i hope i got lucky and got a male and 2 females, but i dont know. in carberryi's, is the distinguishing factor the color or fin shape?

thanks all.


http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0077.jpg

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EDIT: Good news -- i just fed them and they are eating!! they nibbled on small spectrum pellets. i put some cyclopeeze in their earlier, they may have munched a bit, but definitely they are eating now that i put in some fish eggs from Rod's food. yum yum!

geaux xman
03/06/2011, 12:16 AM
great looking fish. i'm hoping to get 6-7 of them soon to start them in QT. cant help answer any questions as i dont have any personal experience with them. although that is what i've seen recommended to QT them, light copper and prazipro.

anxious to hear what others say...

what size QT tank do you have them? the only tank i have available to use right now is a 17g(24x12x14) and that wouldnt work for 6-7. or i could do 3 to start off...

Gogandantess
03/06/2011, 02:05 AM
They look really nice! How would you tell the sexes?

jonnybravo22
03/06/2011, 10:27 AM
what size QT tank do you have them?.

10g

They look really nice! How would you tell the sexes?

that's what i was hoping you would tell me! anyone know?

snorvich
03/06/2011, 12:43 PM
I also have them. They love cyclopeeze, capelin fish roe, and various kinds of mysis. They eat well, are social, and cause no problems. My biggest concern is keeping up their coloration.

jonnybravo22
03/06/2011, 01:02 PM
snorvich / anyone: do you know how to distinguish the sexes?

SDguy
03/06/2011, 01:05 PM
I've always had a hard time sexing them, especially since there are a couple color morphs (yours, then others that have bartlett/evansi coloration). Best I can tell, males definitely have the elongated lower caudal fin. Also, they have a bright orange spot on each side of their belly.

snorvich
03/06/2011, 01:07 PM
I've always had a hard time sexing them, especially since there are a couple color morphs (yours, then others that have bartlett/evansi coloration). Best I can tell, males definitely have the elongated lower caudal fin. Also, they have a bright orange spot on each side of their belly.

Good to know. If they did not move so fast, I might give sexing them a shot. :hmm4:

davocean
03/06/2011, 01:21 PM
I just assumed buying young/little and let them figure out who will become male, but it seems my dispar has taken on that role w/ them and made them his harem.

jonnybravo22
03/07/2011, 06:28 PM
feeding on some cyclopeeze.

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0142.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0124.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0122.jpg

i'm currently running the prazipro treatment, then i'll get them in the real tank.

geaux xman
03/07/2011, 07:49 PM
looking good...

did you run copper on them?

i'm still up in the air about either going hypo or copper on the athias.

jonnybravo22
03/07/2011, 09:07 PM
can you run copper and prazipro at the same time? not sure -- i'm not trying it. from what i've heard the concern on anthias is flukes or internal parasites so that's what i'm targeting in QT with prazipro. dont know if i will run copper after but probably not.

ryanrid
03/07/2011, 09:44 PM
anthias are susectible to septicemia which is worsened by Hypo so i do not use hypo on anthias unless they are showing symptoms of ich.
nice anthias BTW they would look nice in with some tuka.

SDguy
03/07/2011, 10:22 PM
Here a shot of my male displaying...and you can see the belly spot I was mentioning. The colors are kind of messed up due to bad camera settings (oversaturated), but anyways, you get the idea.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/SDreefguy/1_1-8.jpg

blkg35
03/08/2011, 03:56 AM
Can't wait to see some in tank shots. These anthias are gorgeous!!

jonnybravo22
03/08/2011, 10:27 PM
Here a shot of my male displaying...and you can see the belly spot I was mentioning. The colors are kind of messed up due to bad camera settings (oversaturated), but anyways, you get the idea.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/SDreefguy/1_1-8.jpg

crazy colors in that photo, but i see what you are pointing out. thanks. i havent seen that quite so prominently in any of them yet but i'll be on the lookout. there is one that is clearly the slightly larger of the 3 and it often 'displays' his spines. also has the longest trailing fin on his tailfins.

Can't wait to see some in tank shots. These anthias are gorgeous!!

thanks! can't wait to get them in the tank!

jonnybravo22
03/08/2011, 10:35 PM
i've looked around and find pretty much the same word-for-word descriptions on the web -- can anyone help with the details of their feeding habits?

i'm trying to figure out if they will eat until they are full or eat as long as there is food, or are they the kind of fish that will only eat for a few seconds then stop, then need to eat again after a short time. i know they like to eat multiple times per day, but any further insight would be helpful with my portion sizing while they are in QT. thanks.

SDguy
03/08/2011, 10:43 PM
IME hardier anthias like these will start out eating only small amounts at a time, and spit food back out once full. Just keep a cup of thawed food by the tank, and drop a tiny bit in every 20-30 minutes.

But eventually they learn to gorge a bit more. Also, a trick I use, is feed least favorite foods first. Then by the time you get to their favorite foods, they are adding it to already full stomachs.

snorvich
03/09/2011, 10:51 AM
IME hardier anthias like these will start out eating only small amounts at a time, and spit food back out once full. Just keep a cup of thawed food by the tank, and drop a tiny bit in every 20-30 minutes.

But eventually they learn to gorge a bit more. Also, a trick I use, is feed least favorite foods first. Then by the time you get to their favorite foods, they are adding it to already full stomachs.

Great advice Peter!

jonnybravo22
03/09/2011, 10:34 PM
Great advice Peter!

+1 good tip

jcw
03/11/2011, 05:01 PM
How are they doing?

I've got some dispars in QT and am contemplating whether to treat and with what.

Prazipro would be easy enough.

Wonder if it's worth hypo for a full treatment course?

jonnybravo22
03/11/2011, 07:56 PM
thanks for asking! they are great!

i've been feeding them arctipods and live tigger pods and they LOVE them both, which is great.

some pics :)

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0181.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0184.jpg

they have cool yellow noses

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0162.jpg

beauties!

jcw
03/11/2011, 08:47 PM
Did you end up treating?

they are gonna look great in the DT!

jonnybravo22
03/11/2011, 09:35 PM
yes i treated with prazipro. it's pretty straightforward bath just add to QT and it works in 5-7 days.

jonnybravo22
03/13/2011, 12:52 PM
moved to DT.

they look to be in great shape. i see a little squabbling between the two that i worry could be males. i have been hoping that one is a male which i could clearly see him being dominant and a slightly smaller one i hope is just a sub-male? do they do that in this species?

anyways there was a little mouth to mouth action going on early this morning. has stopped, the 3 are swimming peacefully for the last few hours. could this be a bit of social structuring or do you think it's a problem? thanks for input.

geaux xman
03/13/2011, 02:03 PM
good to hear they're all doing well. what all are you feeding them on now and what do they eat most aggressively?

i have an order of 5 from LA, but not sure why they havent sent it to me yet, when it shows they have it in stock. They have sent my other fish from the same order.

jonnybravo22
03/14/2011, 09:09 PM
good to hear they're all doing well. what all are you feeding them on now and what do they eat most aggressively?

i have an order of 5 from LA, but not sure why they havent sent it to me yet, when it shows they have it in stock. They have sent my other fish from the same order.

hm... most aggressively? they attack reef nutrition arctipods, rod's fish eggs, rod's original recipe and cyclopeee with substantial vigor! it's really fun because as soon as i feed those things the three of them dart around snapping up food!

it seems they werent previously fed flake or pellets but i've been introducing both and think they're catching on slowly. saw 1 eat some otohime pellets today! (i'm raising some baby clownfish so i got a set of otohime)

jonnybravo22
03/15/2011, 06:35 AM
hm... most aggressively? they attack reef nutrition arctipods, rod's fish eggs, rod's original recipe and cyclopeee with substantial vigor! it's really fun because as soon as i feed those things the three of them dart around snapping up food!

it seems they werent previously fed flake or pellets but i've been introducing both and think they're catching on slowly. saw 1 eat some otohime pellets today! (i'm raising some baby clownfish so i got a set of otohime)

and live tigger pods. they devour those with gusto!


good to hear they're all doing well. what all are you feeding them on now and what do they eat most aggressively?

i have an order of 5 from LA, but not sure why they havent sent it to me yet, when it shows they have it in stock. They have sent my other fish from the same order.

did your fish come in?

geaux xman
03/17/2011, 09:09 AM
yeah they came in yesterday. i ordered 5 and one came in dead, which was credited. they're just doing a lot of hiding right now. very pretty fish though.

geaux xman
03/18/2011, 03:00 PM
i really like these fish. wish i had ordered about 8 of them.

not eating pellets yet. its eating the hell out of mysis shrimp. will also eat rods food and rods eggs, i just tried it out to see if it'll eat.

Patrick Cox
05/21/2011, 08:29 PM
...Just keep a cup of thawed food by the tank, and drop a tiny bit in every 20-30 minutes...

I have considered Anthias but have been worried about the need for frequent feeding. I mean how does anyone who is employed do this?? :eek1:

snorvich
05/21/2011, 08:42 PM
I feed mine 3-5 times daily. they will eat anything I put in the tank with extreme gusto.

Patrick Cox
05/22/2011, 05:24 AM
I feed mine 3-5 times daily. they will eat anything I put in the tank with extreme gusto.

Do you have a feeder or are you retired? :D

Shiroi Kitsune
05/22/2011, 10:20 PM
I have had great success with anthias and only feed 1 to 2 times daily. I've decided that my hang on back refugium/pod factory has been the key to success with these. A constant supply of food kind of negates the need for such frequent feedings.

BANDIT ANGEL
05/23/2011, 12:20 AM
I bought three from my friend and they are thriving in my tank. Eating pellets and mysis with equal gusto. I ordered three more Bartlett's anthias and they are living together peacefully. My anthias are feed 5-8times daily in small quantities.

snorvich
05/23/2011, 04:35 AM
Do you have a feeder or are you retired? :D

Although I am retired, I do have activities that take as much time as work. But I feed twice in the morning, once when I get home, and once before lights go out. I do have a feeder but don't use it on that tank.

:celeb3:

Lynnmw1208
05/23/2011, 09:10 AM
thanks for asking! they are great!

i've been feeding them arctipods and live tigger pods and they LOVE them both, which is great.

some pics :)

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0181.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0184.jpg

they have cool yellow noses

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_0162.jpg

beauties!

That first picture looks like it's turning male to me :) awesome fish. you got the variation I got the first time that was sick :( my new ones are a bit different in color. They really are beautiful fish though! I just put mine into the DT after running prazipro for 7 days. they seem healthy and have a vigorous appetite for mysis shrimp.

jcw
05/23/2011, 09:24 AM
I have a lyretail that I could easily feed twice a day. He eats like a pig.

The ignitus however only eats food that is very small in size and rarely gets enough in 2 feedings. For her requirements, the whole tank gets fed as much as I can which is between 2-4 times per day.

As a result, I have a fat bellus angel and a flasher wrasse whose belly is almost constantly swollen. :)

jonnybravo22
05/23/2011, 07:03 PM
i ended up losing 1 to jumping, and got 3 more afterwards so now i have 5. most of these shots are of the male.

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/jonny_bravo22/IMG_2168.jpg

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