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Megatrev62
04/09/2011, 01:51 PM
Friend has a lion now for about 5 weeks and had it eating frozen shrimp from a stick. It has not eaten now for 10 days so he tried live feeders today and the lion didn't touch them. He is concerned the lion is done for. Anyone have this experience and is the fish beyond help? Thanks
Mental1
04/10/2011, 06:29 AM
Do you have any more information? Tank size? Water conditions? Tank mates?
seahorsedreams
04/10/2011, 09:37 AM
What kind of shrimp? Krill or?

How big is the lion and what species? Is a pic possible?

When's the last time they did a water change? A good one.
Megatrev62
04/10/2011, 10:12 AM
It's a ratiata lion and the only fish in a 108 gallon hagen tank. People keep saying"do you mean 180".lol. No it is 108. Tank has been running for 3 months and the first water change 20% was done last Thursday. Pic is not possible at this time. He has sump with macro algae-doing poorly and his nitrates are 0. Only fish in such a big .tank I would say is the reason. He does not have any live rock-not going to use it. He only has a few pieces of tuffa.SG is at 1.026 with refractometer. Fish was eating only shrimp from grocery store. Has not touched even the feeders or any shrimp for eleven day now. Has tried he/she with silversides as well. By the way no signs of disease at all. good eyes and has been swimming. Thanks
Megatrev62
04/10/2011, 10:26 AM
Forgot to mention he has a ton of bio-balls there for filtration.
Fibinotchi
04/10/2011, 10:42 AM
If there is no place for it to hide, and the lights are even remotely bright, it probably is pretty stressed. It needs some places to hide.
Megatrev62
04/10/2011, 10:46 AM
I hear ya. I've been telling him to put more rock in the tank. Just has 2 pieces with halides!!!! He has alot of rock in buckets but he doesn't like it. Told him to put it in that fish needs some comfort. He doesn't think the fish is stressed-eating before and so on.
Fibinotchi
04/10/2011, 10:49 AM
Lions can go a couple weeks without eating, but in this case I think it is mostly stress related. He best fix the problem to save the fish. He should have never bought a fish like that so prematurely. Maybe take it back to the store, don't just let it die.
Megatrev62
04/10/2011, 04:29 PM
It's going to die?
Fibinotchi
04/10/2011, 07:22 PM
Without the proper conditions, more than likely. Increased stress causes lack of appetite and increase risk for health problems and premature death.
Megatrev62
04/10/2011, 08:15 PM
Makes sense to me. Will be talking to him tonight and will let him know what RC has been saying. Thanks
Megatrev62
04/10/2011, 10:02 PM
Without the proper conditions, more than likely. Increased stress causes lack of appetite and increase risk for health problems and premature death.

He disagrees and will prove RC wrong. I disagree totally with him. Time will tell I guess. His point is the fish is swimming not hiding in a corner.
Fibinotchi
04/10/2011, 10:47 PM
It's looking for cover and a way out.
namxas
04/11/2011, 08:33 AM
All of the folks that have answered/commented in this thread are VERY experienced lionfish keepers. It has nothing to do with "proving RC wrong", but if your friend chooses to disregard the advice, it's his problem. Too bad the fish will likely suffer for it...
Megatrev62
04/11/2011, 10:36 AM
I agree 100%.
robot2222
04/12/2011, 04:33 AM
what a shame .
crobattt
04/12/2011, 06:56 AM
tell him to pet it.then maybe actually stop being so ignorant.
Megatrev62
04/12/2011, 09:56 AM
Had a heated discussion last night. He is going to put some rock in the tank today!! Just ticks me off when he knows better. Hope it's going to help and not too late!!!!!
Megatrev62
04/13/2011, 08:27 AM
Thought I'd update:

Fish still not eating and swimming more on its side according to the owner. Ticks me off but he is a stubborn sob. He is putting more rock in but to little to late. Told him to fill his tank with rock for future purchases. This kind of thing just ticks you off.
Megatrev62
04/14/2011, 06:30 AM
The lion died last night.
Nighthawk31
04/14/2011, 05:18 PM
:furious: :uzi: 'nuff said.
Megatrev62
04/14/2011, 06:43 PM
Yeah I gave up on this with him. He still insists the fish wasn't stressed. Can't convince some people.
DoubleM 10
04/14/2011, 06:48 PM
Yeah I gave up on this with him. He still insists the fish wasn't stressed. Can't convince some people.

"you cant fix stupid"- Ron White
Fibinotchi
04/14/2011, 07:21 PM
Sorry for the fish, hopefully he researches some more before taking on any more fish. We have all made mistakes at one time or another in this hobby, but the frustrating thing here is that the fish may have been able to be saved. Hope he realizes and learns from his mistakes.
Mental1
04/15/2011, 09:10 AM
Well -- I guess he showed everyone here on RC. Winning!
namxas
04/15/2011, 11:04 AM
Well -- I guess he showed everyone here on RC. Winning!

Yeah...he sure did...pffft. :hmm2:
Fibinotchi
04/15/2011, 04:03 PM
He has lion blood, or is it tiger blood.:hmm1:
gweston
04/15/2011, 04:28 PM
Look ma no hands...*crash*

Too bad the lion died :(