View Full Version : WaterWeld Epoxy is great for securing frags
SoFloReefer
06/07/2011, 09:01 PM
Everyone has dealt with the Red hermit crab or Mexican turbo snail cruising their tank and knocking a path of destruction as one frag after another takes a face dive into the sand bed. For years I used superglue gel with limited success. I recently bought a tube of JB Weld brand WaterWeld epoxy to try and secure my frags to the live rock structure. Overall I am impressed with the results. The epoxy sets and hardens under water and creates a solid connection between the frag and rock. I do a few things to increase the likelihood of a solid bond. I only mix as much epoxy as I can use in five minutes. I noticed that if I waited too long to use the mixed epoxy, the bond was much weaker. I also try to wipe as much algae from the frag as possible. I then role a small ball of epoxy and press the ball between the frag and live rock where the frag is to be secured. I leave my pumps off for a bit so that the epoxy has time to set. I have used half a tube of this product in my small tank with no ill results. I can tell no reaction from my wrasse, clams, or coral. Even though this has worked well, it is not successful every time. Frags have fallen off and I simply re-secure them. Second time is almost always the charm. This stuff can't be beat for it's low cost ($5) and it's availability at Home Depot. My only complaint is that when you knead its between your index finger and thumb, the remaining residue has a unpleasant odor most similar to urine. I scrub my fingers with a towel and water before the epoxy sets and it comes off.
charleneatkins
06/08/2011, 07:54 AM
I have tried this but have been as persistant as you so that must have my problem why the frags get bump off. I will try again. I agree the residue is a pain if not taken off right away. thanks for the posting:wavehand:
carpenterman23
06/08/2011, 09:44 AM
I also use it and no problems yet..
Lynnmw1208
06/08/2011, 10:55 AM
+100! I got this stuff because someone else on here said they liked it and it was WAY better than the epoxies sold for the hobby. This stuff holds much better. I barely could get my frag off the rock when I had to dip for nudibranchs! it upsets my frogspawn hybrid a little but it comes back the next day.
cilyjr
06/08/2011, 10:57 AM
I have been using water weld for well over a year. It is helpful to put a small dab of super glue gel on each side
charleneatkins
06/08/2011, 12:37 PM
thanks for the extra tip
aleonn
06/08/2011, 02:42 PM
This epoxy works great for me too, and is readily available at my local Home Depot. Only downside is that it's bright white, but with time the coralline and frag growth will overgrow the epoxy.
cloak
06/08/2011, 05:47 PM
JB Waterweld, Marineland, Aquamend, PC Marine. There all the same IMO. :thumbsup:
jbaeza83
07/21/2011, 03:54 PM
This epoxy works great for me too, and is readily available at my local Home Depot. Only downside is that it's bright white, but with time the coralline and frag growth will overgrow the epoxy.
I just used WaterWeld and acrylic rod to build up my aquascape, it worked pretty good too. Now my question is, about how long will it take to grow coraline over the epoxy?
I have a JBJ Nano 24G power compacts, lights are on about 8-9 hours a day, if that helps at all.
psychadelicdrea
07/21/2011, 04:20 PM
shouldnt take to long....my tanks been up about 6 weeks and i have tons of coraline
adolfo425
07/21/2011, 04:57 PM
Waterweld is good. I have also found apoxy a modeling expoy works well its also a 2 part and can be purchased by the pound. When ordering stick with neutral or white stuff as the grey does have metal in it. you can google it and its sold and used by the art industry.
aleonn
07/21/2011, 05:02 PM
It usually takes 4-6 weeks for corraline to color up on a dry rock in my system. For epoxy it takes a little longer, maybe 8-10 weeks.
aleonn
07/21/2011, 05:03 PM
Waterweld is good. I have also found apoxy a modeling expoy works well its also a 2 part and can be purchased by the pound. When ordering stick with neutral or white stuff as the grey does have metal in it. you can google it and its sold and used by the art industry.
I didn't know they sold modeling epoxy by the pound. Wish I knew that a while ago LOL. Water Weld, even though it's cheaper than the aquarium-branded epoxies, still adds up!
adolfo425
07/21/2011, 05:35 PM
Here is the link to the site you can order it from i misspelled the name of the product its Apoxie and this is the linkhttp://www.avesstudio.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=28&category_id=7&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1
jbaeza83
07/21/2011, 05:59 PM
Thank you Adolfo, I think I saw this in an different thread also. I like how you can get it in colors too. I will probably order some of this for my next project.
mcoomer
07/21/2011, 08:45 PM
The secret formula is to make a small ball of epoxy and put a dab of super glue gel on top and bottom. Jab the frag into the gel on top and into the epoxy, forming the expoxy around the base of the frag. Crush the bottom of the expoxy ball into the live rock where you want to place the coral. Smooth the epoxy ball into the rock and the base of the frag and hold in place for a minute to allow the gel to set. The gel holds long enough to allow the epoxy to thoroughly cure on the frag and rock and it will take a hammer and chisel to get the piece off.
Mike
Mindflux
08/13/2011, 05:50 PM
The bond seems too weak to me. I even "sandwich" the epoxy between big globs of superglue and it always comes up from the LR way easy. :/
chatyak
02/18/2012, 07:41 PM
Is my J-B Stik safe to use as well? Please see here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19899387
It isn't the "waterweld" version, but just J-B STIK Weld... and says it's safe for drinking water... but I don't know about securing frags.
allendavant
02/18/2012, 11:43 PM
This is what I use too. I like it a lot! I often use in in conjunction with super glue gel.
Daddie05
02/13/2014, 02:14 AM
Glad I found this thread. Ordering some water weld now from Amazon. Should I get the marine or the regular one? Both work under water apparently.
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