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Lion-o
07/30/2011, 03:49 PM
Hey Reefers,

Our local pet shop has their 5G eco picos on sale (beautiful tanks: http://www.ecoxotic.com/led-aquariums/desktop-aquariums/eco-pico.html)

...and I'm wondering if there are any neat predators I could keep in there that wouldn't outgrow it. Something like an angler or lion would be awesome, but all the ones I know of end up getting way too big. Is there anything I'm not thinking of, or any other ideas out there? Predators preferred.

thanks in advance :)
danny b

silentcivilian
07/30/2011, 03:52 PM
Like a small wartskin frogfish would fit for awhile im sure.. but.. at 5 gallons, the problem with predator is waste.... so 5 gallons would get soiled quickly.

TitanTV
07/30/2011, 04:10 PM
I'd say a chunk of live rock and 2 small hermit crabs..It would actually be kinda neat

Lion-o
07/30/2011, 04:18 PM
Lol I realise it's small, but it's not THAT small :P There's a lot of cool reef set ups in the nano section of the forums, I'm just looking for something like silentciv pointed out ... However, I'm wondering if anything will STAY that tiny so when we get attached we don't have to give him away when he outgrows the tank ^^

AlexS95
07/30/2011, 05:07 PM
I'd go with a Mantis shrimp! :D

rpionka
07/30/2011, 05:25 PM
Pom Pom Crab (Lybia sp.)

curlykid
07/30/2011, 05:52 PM
Get a Harley shrimp and 2 pom pom crabs!

Lion-o
07/30/2011, 05:58 PM
thanks for all the replies. I suppose I should of specified, I am looking for fish ideas rather than inverts :)

Cahooligan
07/30/2011, 05:59 PM
double post

Cahooligan
07/30/2011, 06:00 PM
i'd go with a mantis shrimp! :d

+1

rpionka
07/30/2011, 06:32 PM
5g for fish? 10g is a minimum for any goby. Yellow Clown Goby is small -1,5" but IMO he needs at least 10g.

AlexS95
07/30/2011, 06:51 PM
suppose I should of specified, I am looking for fish ideas rather than inverts :)

Then you should of gotten a bigger tank... :wildone:

silentcivilian
07/30/2011, 06:56 PM
Ya, your only bet is a small goby that isnt known for moving alot.. like a catalina goby (which requires cooler water) or a clown goby.. they just perch.. so if you got a abstract enough peice of rock with lots of perch space.. you would be ok I suppose, a red spot or red stripped goby might stay little enough and immobile enough to do well.. but that is the trick I suppose if you want a fish in a 5G is to get somthing that is immobile and likes to perch.

silentcivilian
07/30/2011, 07:00 PM
I'd go with a Mantis shrimp! :D

Mantis get huge, so 5g would last a few months before it would likely eat the tank itself. They can get up to 5-6" long, with the tank only be 10" wide.. you would get a angry mantis

Lion-o
07/30/2011, 07:09 PM
Then you should of gotten a bigger tank... :wildone:

I haven't bought the tank yet ;)

I agree that I need something that doesn't swim much for a 5g. That's why I was looking for a small breed of lion/frog/angler but it seems that they just don't exist.

bummer, oh well.

silentcivilian
07/30/2011, 07:45 PM
Options are copy the idea.. you buy a smaller hex.. going to a acrylic place and get them to make a black sheet seperater, and essentially make your own nano that is a tad bigger and hides everything in the tank as such... I mean those tanks are made with 3 peices of acrylic right.. one full back peice, and two dividers so you get a 3 chamber section. Then you buy a lamp and a par38 bulb and you set! Wartskin frogfish heaven! ;) They only need a 20g or so..

Lion-o
07/30/2011, 08:00 PM
You mean just essentially make a 20g cube ? Or divide it into three sections ?

I'm not sure I understood you perfectly :)

silentcivilian
07/30/2011, 08:03 PM
I mean copy the simplicity of what makes those tanks, the clean look of having everything behind the acrylic wall, heaters, pump, filters etc.. Ive seen people do it in a 20G long and just make the last 5" of the tank the wall, and use vynil to hide it and mount a light on that end.. or a 20G hex and they just install the acrylic in the back like one of those tanks. Its your call, but too make those style of tank with the back chamer is clean, easy and looks awesome! those frogfish will do peachy in a 20G

Lion-o
07/30/2011, 08:18 PM
that's not a bad idea. I was kinda going at it from the other direction though ... with tank A, what can I find small enough to put in it.

I'll probably just opt to wait around for another opportunity. Thanks though!

AlexS95
07/30/2011, 08:23 PM
Mantis get huge, so 5g would last a few months before it would likely eat the tank itself. They can get up to 5-6" long, with the tank only be 10" wide.. you would get a angry mantis

Not all of them. Have you checked out Roy's List? It is in the Mantis section, you should read up on it. :D

TitanTV
07/30/2011, 11:09 PM
Honestly putting together a 5 gallon setup will cost the same as setting up any other small tank set up. Unless you want a small tank for a desk or something.

Lion-o
07/30/2011, 11:12 PM
It was going to be a tabletop centerpiece :D

Birdee
07/30/2011, 11:30 PM
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+3&ddid=125488
'Bout as small a fishy pred as you are going to find. Needs a min. of 20 gal, and I bet you'll have to spend a good bit of time/effort teaching it to eat frozen foods.:worried:
Adorable though! :D

AlexS95
07/30/2011, 11:59 PM
-.- I was gonna buy him in a few days. :headwallblue:

Edit: Whoops, that looks like it's a different one then the one on there now.

Birdee
07/31/2011, 01:55 AM
-.- I was gonna buy him in a few days. :headwallblue:

Edit: Whoops, that looks like it's a different one then the one on there now.

LOL, Sorry 'bout that. I just googled for a pic of one and got that older image from the site. Good luck getting the one that is available. :spin1:

Coralreefin
07/31/2011, 08:32 AM
I have a dwarf frogfish in Eco Pico and it is more then enough room... Had him for about 6 months now. He is still less than 2 inches. If he get bigger, then I will get him a ten but we will see how big he gets... Make sure it is a dwarf angler. The clean up crew is essential... Have a diverse crew and tank is stable... Even sponges have new growth.