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08/03/2011, 10:23 PM
Our new and improved salt formulas, for accelerated growth, ULNS systems and enhanced coloration.
If there are any questions feel free to ask.
Find out more by clicking here. (http://www.redseafish.com/index.aspx?id=4163)
08/03/2011, 10:23 PM
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10/28/2011, 01:42 PM
Some mixing tips(in addition to the manual):
Dry mix your salt (once for new buckets), by rolling the bucket on the floor for a few minutes, or pouring the dry salt from one bucket to another a few times.
It will prevent stratification of the salt- sometimes when a bucket of salt travels a lot, the shaking and vibrating causes the mix to separate according to grain size.
ALWAYS add salt to water, NEVER water to salt.
Mix at ambient temperature, and then bring the temp. up, if needed. Do not mix pre warmed water.
Use a strong pump to mix the salt- it requires a vigorous mixing, that won’t allow the salt to accumulate at the bottom, and keep it suspended.
Don’t dump the salt, sprinkle it around so it won’t sink to the bottom in a pile.
Usually it takes 10-15 min. to fully dissolve and clear, but for bigger batches and weaker pumps it can take up to 30 min.
*I highly recommend testing the salinity, every time before using the new water.
** After following the above, test NEW water parameters [Alk, Ca, Mg] and compare it to the declared values, at least when you get a new bucket.
***You should test newly made water (at least once a bucket) regardless of the brand of salt you’re using.
Enjoy Red Sea's new and improved Salt formulas.:beer:
All the Best,
11/09/2011, 02:58 PM
just womdered how much salt would be needed in 25litres to reach 1.025????
11/09/2011, 03:14 PM
About~955grams at 25deg. C.
Hope I helped,
11/17/2011, 01:42 PM
AND THE WINNER IS...
Coral-Pro was Awarded 2011 BEST SALT mix (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19527013#post19527013)
11/18/2011, 07:20 AM
Do I still need to dose my tank with your mix?
11/18/2011, 04:02 PM
It all depends on the elements' uptake rate, the water changes etc.
All the best,
02/04/2012, 12:34 PM
I just received a bucket of the "all new formula" Red Sea salt. I notice that the packaging states that the salt will provide water that has a dkH of 7.7. Isn't this kind of low for a reef tank?
02/06/2012, 01:12 PM
The Alkalinity is just fine and at 33ppt.
If you have SPS the salinity should be a bit higher at 35ppt.(and thus the Alkalinity is going to be slightly higher ~8dKH)
It's excellent for enhancing coloration.
Please consider viewing this page:
"Red Sea Salt is designed to provide the exact parameters of tropical reef water with a slightly elevated
alkalinity as needed in a closed marine system. Red Sea salt is ideal for fish and invertebrate systems or
for low-nutrient tanks where the hobbyist supplements all of the individual elements on a regular basis."
All the best,
03/20/2012, 07:39 AM
Hello, I am having some problems with the levels in the coral pro salt. I have mixed several batches for water changes, and have had low levels of alk, cal, and mag. With 5 gallons of RO/DI water mixed to 1.025, the average alk levels are between 7 and 7.5 dKH, the calcium is averageing 390 to 420, and the mag levels are averaging 1200 to 1250. These are all measured with the red sea test kits. I did mix up the salt my pouring it between 3 5 gallon buckets to get it mix up well. I do love the salt and it just takes a bit of the two part to make the levels better.
03/20/2012, 08:37 AM
03/20/2012, 08:39 AM
Do you add bromide to your salt mixes? I run ozone so I want to avoid complications.
03/22/2012, 06:29 PM
goldenfamaliy- I tried to get a hold of you early on today.
Rploaded- Bromine is not add but is present in our salt since it’s harvested directly from the Red Sea.
Hope I helped,
04/01/2012, 08:19 AM
I mixed a batch of your Red Sea Coral Pro Salt in a new tank and have been trying to stabilized the salinity. It's at 1.024 at the moment but the calcium is at 600ppm and Alk at 240ppm. I'm going to allow it to mix for 24 hours but the water is a bit cloudy. I saw that your instructions included not mixing in heated water. However, the water in the new tank is at the moment 77 F. Please advise.
05/30/2012, 11:14 AM
I have just made a batch of your milk. the back does not say mix first, why do I have to waste 3 vacation days , driving an hour away, 2 days mixing 55 gallon drum... to get milk. search the internet... find this as a common problem... and then read about pre mix in the dry salt. what kind of company requires dry mix... and does not state its under packaging instructions? answer... the kind of company that loses customers. I am going to let my l f s' s in orlando know about the new mixing problem since the representatives did not let them know. your company made my local fish store look bad with a known problem.
06/11/2012, 12:10 PM
In March/April 2012 Red Sea received a few complaints about certain buckets of Coral Pro salt that did not mix as normal. It was reported that the water had a milky/cloudy appearance that did not clear up irrespective of how long the mixing continued.
In response to the complaints we have re-tested the archive samples of the specific batches as well as samples returned to us by customers. When mixed according to our laboratory mixing protocol all of the samples we tested dissolved fully, resulting in crystal clear salt water. The foundation element levels of some of the samples tested were at the extremes though within the defined range.
We then conducted further experiments to find possible causes of the milky/cloudy appearance and found 3 factors that can sometimes cause irreversible calcium carbonate precipitation during mixing. The effects of these factors can vary and, certain batches of Coral Pro are much more sensitive to the mixing conditions than others. One conclusion of our testing is that the importance of these 3 factors namely; temperature of the water, accuracy in measuring the quantity of salt and water and the length of mixing time, need to be better emphasized in the printed mixing instructions (that are now being amended) as sometimes these factors become critical.
From past experience most instances of cloudiness on mixing have been resolved by ensuring that the water is at approximately 20OC/68OF before mixing and that the mixing is stopped as soon as the salt dissolves. Since Coral Pro Salt has elevated levels of foundation elements and is recommended to be mixed to a salinity of 35ppt, relatively small errors in the amount of salt and water used can put the foundation elements above their solubility level.
In any case where the detailed mixing instructions (as defied below) are adhered to and a clear solution is not achieved after 2 hours of mixing, please contact a Red Sea Customer Service representative.
1. Use RO water that is at a temperature of approximately 20OC/68OF”.
2. Accurately weight the salt and measure the volume of water according to the salinity you wish to achieve.
3. Pour the salt gradually into the water. Do not pour water onto the salt.
4. Mix vigorously (without aeration) for approximately 0.5 - 2 hours, until all of the salt is dissolved and pH has stabilized to 8.2 – 8.4” - DO NOT mix for more than 4 hours.
5. When mixed, raise the temperature and add to the aquarium. (Not absolutely necessary for a small water change)
1. Coral Pro was specially designed for enhancing the calcification process in all corals. It contains elevated levels of the foundation elements (calcium, magnesium and the carbonate alkalinity components) and is recommend to be mixed to a salinity of 35ppt. The combination of high levels of foundation elements and salinity makes the elements close to their natural saturation levels in seawater enhancing the possibility of precipitation.
2. The raw materials used in the latest formula of Coral Pro dissolve much quicker than in the past and even if the seawater is not to be used immediately, it should not be mixed for much longer than required to dissolve the salt. In fact Coral Pro salt has gone from being one of the slowest salts to dissolve, to one of the fastest, particularly when taking into account the levels of the foundation elements for the accelerated growth of SPS corals.
3. Due to the thermodynamics of the dissolving process of the salt formula, water that is significantly cooler or warmer than the recommended 20OC/68OF will slow down the mixing process. Warmer water is a contributory factor to causing precipitation of the foundation elements making the water cloudy.
4. Mixing the salt with high agitation at the water surface increases the amount of CO2 that evaporates from the water causing an increase in both pH and alkalinity that enhances the chance of precipitation.
5. The built in inaccuracies of home measuring tools (weighing the salt, volume of water and quality of hydrometer/refractometer) may lead to a salinity of 1-2 ppt more than desired, increasing the chances of precipitation.
6. Due to excessive vibration during shipping and the different particle sizes and weights of the various elements in the salt, sometimes the mix can lose some of its homogeneity. This can lead for example to higher calcium levels at the top of the bucket which can cause precipitation (cloudiness) on mixing. Dry mixing the contents of a bucket will restore the original homogeneity.
All the best,
06/28/2012, 05:33 PM
You guys say to mix at ambient temperature, ambient temperature in my house is 78 degrees in the summer. I have been mixing 5 gallon batches and it mixes clear after 15 minutes, but after another 15 minutes its cloudy.
07/12/2012, 05:53 PM
How long can I store mixed, using coral pro, water in a 20 gallon Brute?
10/22/2012, 12:28 PM
Why does too much mixing make it cloudy? Why do you say not to mix for more than 4 hours?
Can I mix it, then let it sit for say, up to a month before I use it? Will it start to stink or go bad? There's no organics in there is there?
11/02/2012, 07:17 AM
why has the price gone up $15 a bucket?
+1 on the "why not to mix it more than 4 hours"... Most reefers I know have a mixing container that is constantly mixing.... so are you telling us that is we mix and maintain temp on salt water that this product is not for us?
If I stop mixing after 4 hours wont I have issues with the water that has been sitting for weeks?
12/18/2012, 09:20 AM
I would also like the answer to why not mix more than 4 hours? I have a 20g brute trash can that has a powerhead, heater, and airstone and stays on all the time keeping my makeup water stirring for a week at a time.
12/19/2012, 08:59 AM
Coral Pro has been formulated to give the best formulation for vigorous and healthy (aragonite not calcite) coral growth. One of the ways this is achieved is to provide balanced and elevated levels of the foundation elements (Ca, Alk, Mg). These foundation levels are takent o near saturation point, which has a significant positive effect on the efficiency of coral growth. For more information you can check out the informative video of the RCP Foundation elements on www.redseafish.com or via youtube.
Over-vigorous mixing can cause a raise in pH during the mixing stage, which in turn can cause the salt mix to go cloudy. This is harmless and will clear quickly in an aquarium, but it is totally avoidable by mixing for less time and without having to raise the temperature, making it a very simple and easy salt to use. Unlike some other salts time does not need to be allocated in order for the salt mix to reach the correct and stable pH. Longer term storage of the salt once mixed, is not an issue with Coral Pro any more than it is with other salts. However, the best way to use the salt is to mix a fresh batch of saltwater as and when you need it.
For customers who do not desire rapid coral growth, Red Sea salt contains the same balance of formulation as Coral Pro, but with the foundation levels set slightly lower. It can be mixed more vigorously but still does not require long-term mixing in order to be suitable for use. More information can be found on our website, and we apologise for not having the time to answer every post on this forum.
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