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Agathos
10/01/2011, 04:53 AM
I have had this wrasse for a few weeks now and it does really well in my mixed reef tank. It never harasses any of the other fishes and I have never seen it bother any invertebrates.

Yesterday I received a male Cirrhilabrus solorensis and the first wrasse has been chasing him around a bit. Is the first wrasse a female Cirrhilabrus solorensis? What is the normal behaviour between a male and female Cirrhilabrus solorensis, can I expect this chasing to end?

Here's a picture of what I believe and hope is a female Cirrhilabrus solorensis:

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt328/SoulMonster/Akvarium-slideshow/IMG_6666.png

BL1
10/01/2011, 03:26 PM
I'm thinking it looks like a Cirrhilabrus aurantidorsalis to me.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+1378+1398&pcatid=1398

sponger0
10/02/2011, 08:54 AM
Rudy head wrasse. I have one also. Red head, blue body with orange fins. It goes by many names though

Agathos
10/06/2011, 11:09 PM
Three different suggestions so far, anyone else?

sponger0
10/07/2011, 01:46 AM
Its a rubdy head wrasse. I have one in my QT right now as we speak

Agathos
10/07/2011, 06:50 AM
Its a rubdy head wrasse. I have one in my QT right now as we speak

I just don't know. They don't look that similar and according to what I have read the Ruby Head Wrasse sleeps in the sand bed, something mine don't. Do you have a Latin name for it?

Agathos
10/07/2011, 06:53 AM
I'm thinking it looks like a Cirrhilabrus aurantidorsalis to me.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+1378+1398&pcatid=1398

It does, but the orange part stretches to the head on your picture while it remains on the posterior end on my picture, so I just don't know. It depends on how much variation in pattern is common with these species, I suppose.

sponger0
10/07/2011, 06:58 AM
Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura

http://www.toofishy.com/product.php?productid=92208&cat=825&page=1

Wrasses will either sleep in sand or rock work. My exquisite was suppose to sleep in the sand but he slept in between 2 rocks instead.

Agathos
10/07/2011, 09:47 AM
Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura

http://www.toofishy.com/product.php?productid=92208&cat=825&page=1

Wrasses will either sleep in sand or rock work. My exquisite was suppose to sleep in the sand but he slept in between 2 rocks instead.

Thanks! It looks identical on that picture.

sponger0
10/07/2011, 09:51 AM
Lol told ya. I spend alot of time trying to figure out what I had. I forgot to check when I bought him at the fish store. I just thought he was pretty so I bought him without thinking to check what kind.

reefjunkie42
10/07/2011, 10:19 AM
Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura

http://www.toofishy.com/product.php?productid=92208&cat=825&page=1

Wrasses will either sleep in sand or rock work. My exquisite was suppose to sleep in the sand but he slept in between 2 rocks instead.

where did you get the idea that this fish sleeps in the sand bed? a LFS? It does not sleep in the sand , but instead makes a mucus cocoon to sleep in. All faires and flasher DO NOT sleep in the sand, at least to my knowledge.

38bill
10/07/2011, 10:32 AM
My bet is that its a female Cirrhilabrus Sollorensis. It is not a C. cyanopleura or a C. aurantidorsalis..

Agathos
10/07/2011, 01:21 PM
where did you get the idea that this fish sleeps in the sand bed? a LFS?

I think that was me. After the suggestion I checked a few websites to find out if it was the right ID and on one of them it said that this species sleeps in the sand bed.

Agathos
10/07/2011, 01:23 PM
My bet is that its a female Cirrhilabrus Sollorensis. It is not a C. cyanopleura or a C. aurantidorsalis..

Okay. Why do you think so? And please tell me you've got a PhD on wrasse identification.

38bill
10/07/2011, 01:29 PM
Here check this out. Poor photo but you will see that the Ruby Head is actually a Female C. solorensis
http://www.qualitymarine.com/Products/Fish/Wild/Wrasses/Cirrhilabrus-solorensis/Ruby-Head-/-Solorensis-Female

Agathos
10/07/2011, 01:51 PM
Here check this out. Poor photo but you will see that the Ruby Head is actually a Female C. solorensis
http://www.qualitymarine.com/Products/Fish/Wild/Wrasses/Cirrhilabrus-solorensis/Ruby-Head-/-Solorensis-Female

So what you are saying is that this is a case of two fish really being the same species?

As I mentioned the male Cirrhilabrus solorensis was being chased by the "X fish" when I introduced it to the tank, but they seem to go fine together now. Does anyone now what the normal behaviour between a male and a female Cirrhilabrus solorensis is? I assume that if I see courtship behaviour the probability of them being the same species is larger?

38bill
10/08/2011, 12:59 PM
Yup. The "Ruby Head" wrasse is really just a name for the female C. solorensis.

Jake007
10/08/2011, 02:00 PM
Dito..... ruby red head... aka .... female solarensis wrasse...
I also have one of these. Awesome fish, a real pig at eating, nice coloring, good community citizen. Tenacious ampod hunter.

As far as getting along with the male, I do not know the 'normal' interaction behavior. I am also getting ready to add another wrasse to my tank. I had two previous males prior to the female and both found a way out to the floor through the smallest little crack in the rear screen. His name was houdini and he proved worthy of the name.

Agathos
10/08/2011, 02:51 PM
Thanks guys! This is really good news since I hoped to get a pair of these wrasses. The female has also stopped chasing the male altogether and they even seem to interact slightly today. My tank is 1100 L (~ 300 gallons) so I hope everything is alright for them to behave naturally.

Agathos
09/16/2012, 12:15 PM
Here's a new picture of my beauty:

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt328/SoulMonster/Akvarium-slideshow/IMG_87611024x696.jpg

She has developed these long fins on the underside that is displayed quite nicely in the picture above.

n8ureman
09/16/2012, 05:15 PM
I have three of the exact fish you have Aganthos. The largest one looks like yours in coloration, and even has the long ventral fins like yours. The other two are solid pink, and are very submissive to the largest one. I also have a blue Solar wrasse in the same tank and he chases the largest of the three only, in what is definitely aggression and not a mating display. What is confusing is that in Rudie Kuiterr's book on fairy wrasses under the description for C. solorensis he does provide two pictures labeled as female solorensis (plates E and F) however they lack the blue color on the chin that runs almost the length of the ventral region of my largest (on the illustration it is white not blue/bluish.) Now, from the difference in coloration displayed by my three and the behavior I witnessed in my own tank I strongly believe that these fish if C. solorensis are not females, but possibly a color variant, and your fish and my largest fish are males.I bought mine from saltwaterfish.com and the had them labeled as C. cyanopleura :confused: So I'm not quite sure who is right as far as identification, but I do not believe what we have is a female wrasse.

michael_cb_125
09/16/2012, 05:31 PM
Agathos,

Such a pretty fish, but I think "she" is actually a "he"....


~Michael

evolved
09/17/2012, 10:14 AM
Definitely a male. Only males develop long pelvic fins.

That being said, I see a C. aurantidorsalis.

Agathos
01/12/2013, 11:19 AM
I might as well use this same thread for another mysterious wrasse I have:

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt328/SoulMonster/Akvarium-slideshow/IMG_9538800x449_zps7da35241.jpg

It lives in the same tank as the wrasse from earlier in this thread and a male Cirrhilabrus solorensis. It is smaller and submissive to both of them.

evolved
01/14/2013, 09:18 AM
Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura

Agathos
01/14/2013, 10:36 AM
Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura

Thanks! I believe you are correct for both of my fish. The first one is a male C. aurantidorsalis whereas the latter is a C. cyanopleura. What sex do you think it is?

evolved
01/14/2013, 11:41 AM
They are a species which are a bit more challenging to sex, but based on the translucent-ness of the fins and the stubby pelvic fins, I'd say female on this one.

Agathos
01/14/2013, 12:31 PM
They are a species which are a bit more challenging to sex, but based on the translucent-ness of the fins and the stubby pelvic fins, I'd say female on this one.

Thanks again! I googled your name and will now enjoy your series of articles on rare wrasses :).

Agathos
01/15/2013, 07:36 AM
Two new pictures of the fish in this thread. I wanted a picture of them together, but the smaller and submissive won't go near the larger and dominant C. aurantodorsalis.

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt328/SoulMonster/Akvarium-slideshow/IMG_9558800x372.jpg

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt328/SoulMonster/Akvarium-slideshow/IMG_9582800x533.jpg