Ich free, how much would you pay?

[jamesbaur13]

I'm asking for a moment of pause and for you to really think about this... how much would you pay (a one time fee) to ensure every fish you ever purchased from here on out was immune to infestation?

If enough votes are generated I plan on forwarding this to a drug company who deals in this sort of thing.

It's a stretch, but I'd like to see something like this work and I'll do what I can to help it along.

[flyhigh123]

where is the $1 dollar option? :D

[jamesbaur13]

I wish there was one, but trying to be reasonable :/

[Reef264]

Having that, it would be priceless.

[dnsfpl]

im willing to pay $500 to someone who can make my current tank ich free

[jamesbaur13]

then vote for $500 minimally...

[AHDOnline]

I think more details are needed. All drugs I currently am aware of normally only last 1 year in common fish species.

You mention "one time" are you saying per tank, per fish, what? I cannot imagine a setting that would require me to only pay xxx per my hobby lifetime to prevent ich.

[jamesbaur13]

I think more details are needed. All drugs I currently am aware of normally only last 1 year in common fish species.

You mention "one time" are you saying per tank, per fish, what? I cannot imagine a setting that would require me to only pay xxx per my hobby lifetime to prevent ich.

I'm curious to see how much people would be willing to pay for something like this if it did exist.

As you know, it doesn't.

[Korrine]

As far as ich, the basic cost of the fish b/c I can treat it myself!

[AHDOnline]

I'm curious to see how much people would be willing to pay for something like this if it did exist.

As you know, it doesn't.

But you totally missed my questions. You need to provide more detail on what the process will be. Anyone can click a button that ill spend 500+ but come time to give you the money it wont happen

There was development from a paper I read that it was created but never sent to market because no one would pay 200$ for treatment. This was a per fish treatment however.

[Chris27]

How would you go about making a fish immune to a parasite?

Oh and BTW, I would pay $15, because that is about the cost of a Red Sea Copper Kit and a bottle of Copper Sulfate.

[89Foxbody]

There was an article several months ago in AFI talking about a lab that had made progress on an ich vaccine. It was a per-fish treatment however, so it's really not practical for retailers/wholesalers...for us it might be effective though.

[maymania6]

agree with chris 27... although I voted $250. It would be nice to have this sort of guarantee, but I think even the $250 price is high, considering we can already eradicate ich in home aquaria through proper QT and treatment process for MUCH less than that.

[Palting]

I currently have an Ich free tank. Got there by QT and hyposalinity, and has been that way for almost 2 years. So, for me as well, even the lowest cost in the choices is too high.

[BrookR1]

It would be better if you could treat ich at the source (supplier) and charge an extra amount (10-30%) per fish so we don't have to deal with it.

[Psirex]

figuring I've never had to deal with ich I will continue to pay what I'm paying now - Simply the cost of the fish (which aren't cheap to begin with)....

[KafudaFish]

I clicked $10,000 because I have probably spent that much over the years.

[snorvich]

It would be better if you could treat ich at the source (supplier) and charge an extra amount (10-30%) per fish so we don't have to deal with it.

Unfortunately the fish cost would easily double. Are you willing to pay that?

[snorvich]

agree with chris 27... although I voted $250. It would be nice to have this sort of guarantee, but I think even the $250 price is high, considering we can already eradicate ich in home aquaria through proper QT and treatment process for MUCH less than that.

Exactly.

[JustinReef]

You left out the option of $0 which would have made the poll more accurate in terms of knowing how many people would be willing to pay for "this" (whatever "this" is). Right now the poll assumes everyone would pay some amount. I wouldn't. I am no expert but stopping a free swimming parasite that burrows into a fish seems like it may be difficult. I would worry about long term side effects to the fish also.

Ich is already treatable and if people would be more responsible and QT fish, this wouldn't be as much of an issue. Personally I WOULD pay more for fish QT'd properly in a shop so I can save the hassle at home. But I will keep QTing in the mean time.

[Amoore311]

I actually pay LESS for QT'd fish then most vendors charge for non-qt'd fish! AND they're a sponsor here lol.

That being said even previously QT'd fish need to be QT'd before they go into my display. There's not 1 single good reason not to.

I'd pay $10-$20 extra for 100% guaranteed clean fish. That's the monthly cost of keeping my QT up and running.

[JustinReef]

Unfortunately the fish cost would easily double. Are you willing to pay that?

Yes. I would pay double for properly QT'd fish.

I don't think there is a big enough market for a vendor to do this (most people I read about don't QT or care to)...not where I live anyways.

[MammothReefer]

Nothing I haven't lost a fish to ICH since I learned how to keep a stable tank. IMOP ICH is a non issue. Don't even QT for it. Stable water parameters, clean water, good husbandry and feeding and every fish I have ever seen with ICH has beat it. Now Brook, or AEFW, or Monti eating nudis.. Those are things I would pay extra to avoid.

[Jon_Hewett_85]

I paid less than $50, which is what it cost me to set up a QT tank. Nothing goes into my display without going through QT. It's too easy to worry about risking your whole setup, expecially over something like ich. There is no need to go dumping even more unnessesary chemicals into your tank.

[Misled]

Nothing. I've had it in QT a few times but was easily able to get rid of it. In 20 plus years I've never had it in the display tank.

[atreis]

1) I've been ich free for as long as I've done saltwater. I learned how to prevent that while still doing freshwater. So, nothing.

2) It sounds like the proposed solution is drugs, likely in the water. Likely not completely effective, and possibly leading to drug resistance developing. (In other words: A fish, once removed from the drugged water, could still develop ich. Additionally, overuse of such drugs can lead to development of resistance making it much harder for those that do have ich problems to treat it.)

So, I think it's not necessary AND a bad idea.

[EllieSuz]

You don't have a "none of the above" option. I wouldn't pay a dime for such a thing when my tank can remain ich free with a quarantine system.

[Agu]

Nothing. I've had it in QT a few times but was easily able to get rid of it. In 20 plus years I've never had it in the display tank.


I was going to brag about not having Ich in my display tanks for more then 10 years but but guess I have another 10 to go ;).

Obviously I'd pay $0.00 .........

[Misled]

I was more worried about that jinx of saying it, but my tank has had the same fish for a couple years, and I don't plan on adding any. The ones I have are not normally ick prone anyway.

[SkullV]

To never ever think about any fish getting it again? To never have to QT live rock and just dip coral?

I would still QT with Prazi and make sure the fish is eating, but to not have to do a copper treatment on every fish I ever buy, I would pay $1k, no problem.

[dixiedog]

I've had my entire tank wiped out twice, before I set up a permanent QT tank. It's 30 gallons and probably cost me $200 to set up.

I'll never have ich again. So my answer is $200, and it's already paid. :)

EDIT: I guess I'll vote '250', that's close enough. After all the QT needs electricity, and salt, and meds, etc.

[Big E]

Ich is nothing.....easy to get rid of & easy to keep out of the display tank with proper QT like I've done for decades.

Velvet & Brook are much deadlier & harder to diagnose early on............I've lost new specimens to this, but it still never gets in the display.

[Beandawg]

I would pay nothing. Ich is a joke.

[mess7777]

If people were willing to pay a lot of money to guarantee ich free fish, LFS would take the trouble to QT them for you for the extra price. Hell, I would set up my QT just for you and guarantee you ich free fish. Bring me your fish, I'll put them in a QT for 9 weeks and treat them. After 9 weeks give me your money and I'll give you an ich free tank. After that, I will QT anything else you add as long as you pay me again.

I wish this was the case, but I think most people try to bargain the price on a non QT, potentially ich prone fish rather than pay more to have someone else do that work. Unfortunately, most of us just take the chance and eventually lose the fish, paying much more in the end.

Sadly, I am one of them. I didn't do my process properly(added inverts and corals during the 8 week QT) and ich was still in my tank because of it I guess. Now I live with it.

[MammothReefer]

I don't see what the issue is. If you're water params are good and stable, your fish are eating, so what if you see an ich spot now and then. It's only when you have ich in-conjunction with our stressful elements (ie bouncing your fish between tanks) that ich is ever an issue with noting. I don't QT my fish. Straight up. Don't do it. Brook is the only issue I worry about it, it hits fast you won't see it and unless you have what you need to deal with it on hand your fish is a goner in a few hours, but it is also only something that the majority of reefers shouldn't have to worry about as captive raised cf are so readily available and typically aren't exposed to brook in my experience. Also since you can (should) only add 1 pair of clownfish per system and they are fairly hardy and long lived. It's only something you are going to do deal with once in the lifetime of your tank (in theory)