8 line flasher wrasse

[reefjunkie42]

I just placed an order for a pair of the amazing wrasse this morning! I will show post pics as soon as i receive them. Im so excited!!!:beer:

[nanoreefer1000]

Sounds great! Where'd you get them?

[reefjunkie42]

Nya

[btkrausen]

I knew you'd be posting this today, haha. I"m waiting on my credit slip from my last order so I can purchase.

[btkrausen]

Woohoo....just placed the order. Here is the pic for others to see:

http://www.nyaquatic.com/catalog/IMG_2088.JPG

[reefjunkie42]

sexxxy!! looks like a male tho? I thought they were all females, then again i have no experience with these fish at all.

[btkrausen]

When ordering on the website there are two different places to order it, one for a female and one for a male. Male was $50 more.

[reefjunkie42]

yea when i ordered there were no males on there yet.

[reefjunkie42]

how many did you pick up?

[btkrausen]

just got a male for now...don't have the extra cash this week to get a female as well.

[nanoreefer1000]

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+3&ddid=140425
I thought it would be a good idea to bring these up:blown:

[Big E]

OMG..................highway robbery at it's best. People that buy these fish at those prices are gonna be sorry.

A few years ago my LFS had like 20 of the males in a tank & the were maybe $50. I understand certain Red Sea fish haven't been available recently, but I think it would smart to be patient right now.

[aquaph8]

I thought they would be more considering how scarce they've been for a while. I think the demand is high enough now that you'll never see them $50 again. Look at what some of these other wrasses are going for. This hobby changed way too much in the last few years. Prices are high but it seems like were getting a lot healthier fish these days too. Worth the price their charging? Maybe not, I dont know but awesome fish either way.

[reefjunkie42]

The collection methods used to get many of these fish to us are the reasons for the price being so high, and by the way that male johnsoni is rediculess! What colors. If you know anything about wrasses you recognize 200 as a Good deal for a fish that hasnet been for sale in years. IMO price is pertinent to the buyer, what someone thinks is alot to one could be not as much to others. In all to each is own and I love wrasses :-)

[btkrausen]

I thought they would be more considering how scarce they've been for a while. I think the demand is high enough now that you'll never see them $50 again. Look at what some of these other wrasses are going for. This hobby changed way too much in the last few years. Prices are high but it seems like were getting a lot healthier fish these days too. Worth the price their charging? Maybe not, I dont know but awesome fish either way.

The collection methods used to get many of these fish to us are the reasons for the price being so high, and by the way that male johnsoni is rediculess! What colors. If you know anything about wrasses you recognize 200 as a Good deal for a fish that hasnet been for sale in years. IMO price is pertinent to the buyer, what someone thinks is alot to one could be not as much to others. In all to each is own and I love wrasses :-)

Agree with both of you guys. These haven't been available for a while "publically" like this which is why they are more than your normal wrasse. I know some people got some last year when this vendor brought in about 6 of them, but they are the only vendor I've heard that has had them in the last few years. Additionally, this wrasse is larger than most and is highly sought due to the visual display of flashing its 'larger than most wrasses' fins when displaying or courting. This is the one reason I really want the Paracheilinus attenuatus.

As for price...its supply and demand at its best. There are MANY wrasse junkies on the boards and are all looking for that 'rare' or uncommon wrasse for their collection. Just like antiques or stamp collecting, some pieces are worth the extra money to complete/add to your collection. :fish2:

[SDguy]

It's a gamble. I saw a GORGEOUS pair of wild bicinctus clowns about 7 years ago for $50 and just didn't have a tank for them. I thought, no biggie, I'll get some later. And here we are... :(

[reefjunkie42]

It's a gamble. I saw a GORGEOUS pair of wild bicinctus clowns about 7 years ago for $50 and just didn't have a tank for them. I thought, no biggie, I'll get some later. And here we are... :(

thats why I jump when seeing something Id like, no telling when one will be around again. after all you cant take it with you when ur gone anyway, might as well enjoy it:beer:

[minhvu]

I couldn't help it. Had to jump on one also. Mine coming in Thursday, can't wait

[aquaph8]

Yep, guilty.

[reefjunkie42]

good for us! I cant wait to see my trio, I couldnt pass up on a male either(and was too impatient to wait for a female to turn:X)

[btkrausen]

Ugh...I hate you....a trio?!?!?!? :)

Gonna try to add a female before mine ships on Thursday for Friday delivery

[reefjunkie42]

id rethink the friday shipping, if it gets held up they wont deliver on saturday possibly,...if they are eating tomorrow morning id get them shipped. they were eating today.just a though

[aquaph8]

All Id get is a trio of slaps from my wife if I got 3. It would be worth it though I guess. Goodluck getting yours safe and sound guys, cant wait.

[btkrausen]

id rethink the friday shipping, if it gets held up they wont deliver on saturday possibly,...if they are eating tomorrow morning id get them shipped. they were eating today.just a though

Yeah, I was thinking about that since its the holiday season. However I've never had a shipment be held up...especially on UPS since I live about 20 min from their world hub. That said I probably just jinxed it, haha.

I might call Michael tomorrow and figure it out.

[reefjunkie42]

It's your call bud at this point it's not about the money or a credit, because who knows when they will be available again, i have only had a shipment held up once, and the fish was fine, naoke fairy wrasse. I was so stressed out but he made it 2 days in a box. Still with me today. Either way I hope all works out for everyone I know for 1 I'm very happy to own these fish, I never though it would come through. Now p. attainaus and im going to be good for awhile.i will have a hard time acquiring that though. Either way can't wait to see what these fish look like in person

[pacislandaqua]

the whole red sea situation is very complicated right now since Yemen is hit or miss with exports.. we should have some 8-lines coming soon :)

[aquaph8]

I think its safe to say were all on the same hunt, LOL

[Big E]

I smell vendors taking advantage of a situation right now. Similar to what happened with blotchy anthias and the white gap gobies.

White cap gobies went from $900 to $140 in a matter of months.

I have no problem understanding paying a premium for deepwater wrasses, terminal males or rare pairs.

Like the examples above, it feels like price gouging. I'm just offering up a buyer beware, because there seems to be no morals in this hobby anymore.

[aquaph8]

Ed I completely agree but what do you do? If you call their bluff, you could wait longer. They'll probably drive the price up more in the next couple years for any reason they can think of.

[albano]

I just placed an order for a pair of the amazing wrasse this morning! I will show post pics as soon as i receive them. Im so excited!!!:beer:

Woohoo....just placed the order. Here is the pic for others to see:


CONGRATS to you both! I may stop by Michael's tomorrow to inspect them myself!

[SDguy]

Ed I completely agree but what do you do? If you call their bluff, you could wait longer. They'll probably drive the price up more in the next couple years for any reason they can think of.

yeah, no kidding... I hear some paucifasciatus butterflies are going to show up. Do I pay $600? Do I wait another decade? :headwally:

[btkrausen]

the whole red sea situation is very complicated right now since Yemen is hit or miss with exports.. we should have some 8-lines coming soon :)

Hmm...sounds like I'll be watching your Facebook page more often :)

[reefjunkie42]

mine shipped today. well see how they look in person

[btkrausen]

mine shipped today. well see how they look in person

Mine should be shipping today as well....my male & female :) Figured it would be safer to ship today than tomorrow.

Good luck with your shipment....and everyone elses too. Don't forget to update everyone :)

[albano]

OMG..................highway robbery at it's best. People that buy these fish at those prices are gonna be sorry.

A few years ago my LFS had like 20 of the males in a tank & the were maybe $50.
I could be wrong, but I really don't think RS 8 lines were $50, a few years ago, or even 10 years ago.

[pacislandaqua]

they were 80-100$ a few years back pretty consistently. However, everything in the red sea went up in price, and from what i understand the 8-lines are deeper and more remote than the purples/sohals/semilarvatus etc. Plus the shipping is round-a-bout which adds a lot of extra expenses.

i think 200$ for a large male is a fair retail price now a days...

paucifasciatus butterflies will be more than 600$... those are expensive little things. lol

[SDguy]

paucifasciatus butterflies will be more than 600$... those are expensive little things. lol


Great... :uzi:

[reefjunkie42]

i just got lost ofr 2 hours reading about paucifasciatus butterflies, one day one day

[btkrausen]

Woohoo....shipping confirmation :) Getting excited...good thing I didn't sleep well last night cause I'm sure I wouldn't have tonight. haha

[reefjunkie42]

I feel you! guarenteed by 10:30 am. I am pretty excited.

[aquaph8]

I feel you! guarenteed by 10:30 am. I am pretty excited.

Haha +1

[minhvu]

Me too. He'll be in my truck heading home at 9am. Already got my alarm set

[aquaph8]

I think we have sucessfully spread them across the country, LOL.

[reefjunkie42]

pretty cool! we should keep this thread going to see the results of this batch of 8 lines and"trace the lineage " so to speak. knowing they all came from the same supplier, ect. I think mine is traveling the least distance so far(unless you picked it up there) because im in new york about 3 hrs away from the city.also had to pay sales tax ...waaa waaaa....

[btkrausen]

Agreed..would be fun to keep track in this thread.

Anybody get theirs yet? haha. Mine says guaranteed by 12:00PM but tracking shows its on truck for delivery :)

[reefjunkie42]

they didnt show at 10:30 which is strange for my fed ex guy,so i called, and they said its on the truck but running about an hour late, so anytime between 10:30-11:30. geez the anticapation is building!!

[aquaph8]

This time of year everything's delayed. Mines due before 10:30, it's about 9:30 now so we'll see.

[btkrausen]

Mine's due in 15 min, haha. UPS Next Day Air can have things at my doorstep before 8AM...FedEx almost always struggles to make it here by noon.

[reefjunkie42]

still no show...

[aandfsoccr04]

Where are they!?!? Post pictures :fun2: I'm living vicariously through you all!

[btkrausen]

Where are they!?!? Post pictures :fun2: I'm living vicariously through you all!

Still in a bunch of FedEx trucks apparently. haha. I think everyone is still watching out their front windows for the delivery.

[reefjunkie42]

well mine arrived, male DOA. both females look ok, though 1 seems to have white spots on the dorsal fin, not like ich, but more like a damaged fin. will get pic as soon as theyre down qting

[btkrausen]

well mine arrived, male DOA. both females look ok, though 1 seems to have white spots on the dorsal fin, not like ich, but more like a damaged fin. will get pic as soon as theyre down qting

Oh man...sorry to hear. Float him to be sure...a couple wrasses I got from NYA recently looked dead until I floated them and they were ok.

[reefjunkie42]

i floated them and everything, im aware of a dead fish when i see it, i understand your just trying to help, but its so stressful losing expensive fish., when i opened the bag i could readily smell decay.. like something died, it wasnt a horrible smell, but you could tell there was something dead in the bag. and low and behold he was.. I called michael at nya. waiting for his response.

[aquaph8]

Awe man. Sorry to hear that. Now I'm kinda nervous and still no delivery.

[reefjunkie42]

Im sorry bro I hope i was the only 1. let us know, when is it expected?

[minhvu]

Mine is in. Thanks to Fedex and a little rain, they were 2 hrs late. Sad thing is that it was at a fedex location about 1.5hrs away but yet it took 6.5hrs to get here. He's alive but very stressed

[btkrausen]

Sweet, FedEx is on the street. Fingers crossed :)

Glad to hear yours is alive so far minhvu

[reefjunkie42]

heres a pic of mine http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee362/reefjunkie42/IMG_2266.jpg

they look very stressed, 1 more than the other, and it looks as if the dorsal fin is damaged.(the 1 almost lying down behind the other 1)

[reefjunkie42]

me too minhvu! keep us updated when you get him into a tank. By the way is anyone not Qting?

[btkrausen]

Both male and female were looking good after taking the bags out. The water was pretty warm so I'm sure that helped. I'll float them for 15 min or so and get them in the QT.

Pics to come soon :)

[reefjunkie42]

Both male and female were looking good after taking the bags out. The water was pretty warm so I'm sure that helped. I'll float them for 15 min or so and get them in the QT.

Pics to come soon :)

Great! Wish my luck didnt suck:blown:

[aquaph8]

Mines dead too. So far NY aquatics has yet to do anything positive for me. Think I'm just gonna get a refund instead of getting burned on shipping again.

[minhvu]

Mine is in QT now. Here's a couple pics. Even though he's stressed, he's still a beautiful fish. Just praying he makes it

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/tvu93/fish/DSC_0433.jpg

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/tvu93/fish/DSC_0430.jpg

[btkrausen]

Here are mine in the QT:

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o152/btkrausen/200%20DD%20Build/2011-12-22_14-16-18_159.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o152/btkrausen/200%20DD%20Build/2011-12-22_14-16-30_66.jpg

[btkrausen]

Mines dead too. So far NY aquatics has yet to do anything positive for me. Think I'm just gonna get a refund instead of getting burned on shipping again.

Man, that sucks. Sorry to hear that. I hope NYA pulls through for you on at least on the refund. He really should have held these for at least a week from being shipped halfway across the globe.

My male has a slight cut on his tail on the right side but the female looks flawless. At least mine are in a QT where they can relax and not be pestered by a bunch of other wrasses. After a few days I'll start them on a Furan-2 treatment since the little wrasse in the QT needs it as well.

[aquaph8]

Glad yours is doing good Bryan. Please keep the pics coming for me. Im pretty bummed but there really nothing I can do. I sent Michael an email and we'll see what we can work out. Best of luck with yours, I hope they do great for you.

[reefjunkie42]

honestly I hope he offers a solid solution.

[btkrausen]

Glad yours is doing good Bryan. Please keep the pics coming for me. Im pretty bummed but there really nothing I can do. I sent Michael an email and we'll see what we can work out. Best of luck with yours, I hope they do great for you.

Keep me updated on here or PM on how it turns out. I'll take some more pics later today.

honestly, i have received over 50 -60 wrasses. and i can usually tell when one looks good or bad, and none of these look too good. I can almost bet my second female will die today or tomorrow, she has yet to move at all. usually when you receive wrasses they hide for like 30-60 minutes, then as soon as you turn your light on they are usually checking things out. only 1 is checking things out so that leads me to believe the other female will die. It really sucks getting screwed and i hope it doesnt happen

My female starting eating right into the QT and I think the male ate a mysis or two...but not sure. The female was already checking out the tank and the male was laying on his side. Now that I kept the light off and just turned back on he's sitting upright with his dorsal fin out (its huge and red with a blue line on the outside).

Hopefully your female pulls through as that still wouldn't be a bad combination to have as you'd get to watch her turn into a beautiful male.

[aandfsoccr04]

Man I'm sorry to hear about the DOA fish. I know how terrible of a feeling that is. Especially when it's something you're really looking forward to and paid a pretty penny for. Good luck with everything and keep us updated.

[reefjunkie42]

I talked to mike and he is sending a new male after the holiday. Hoping for the best when it arrives now the waiting begins again, thank you everyone for the kind words and hope. I would love for her to pull through but it doesn't look good. Tomorrow will be a pretty good indicator weither or not she'll make it. In hoping for the best and preparing for the worst.

I have been having horrible luck with wrasses lately,I think I lost a lunatus after escaping the acclimation box, no sign of her and my female johnsoni has recently developed an eye condition where her eye has blown up to the size of a goldfish eye, she has been in hiding for going on 4 days. I have seen her 3 times and she looks to be in pain. I'm going to have to remove all my rock and sps in order to even find her to treat her. Ah the things we
Do for fish. I'm getting sick of it...sorry for my rant I have just had a stressful couple days

[btkrausen]

Awesome, glad to hear it. Hopefully with the extra 4-5 days he'll go much better in shipping.

[aquaph8]

Well, Ive had a little time to calm down and I talked with Michael at NYA and were also gonna give it another shot. Maybe these guys will ship better after having a week to chill out. Ill let everybody know how it goes next week. On a possitive note my Potters wrasse that was in the same order is doing well and is eating mysis in QT already. Seeing him swimming around and doing well is making me feel so much better.

[reefjunkie42]

I'm very glad your potters is doing good! I think we all should have waited. He should h e taken preorders and waited, I think the outcome would have been better. In the end I think all will be well-happy holidays

[aquaph8]

Did you guys notice the males have been taken off the list at NYA? I hope there's plenty to go around for replacements next week.

[btkrausen]

Yikes...I see that. Hopefully he took them off so he can use his remaining for replacements.

My female is swimming around the tank and doing great. The male is still hiding but doesn't look as stressed as he was.

Crappy pic of the female - having issues with my D40 lately:

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o152/btkrausen/DSC_3368.jpg

[aquaph8]

I have a hard time with pics on my QT. they never come out right. Looking forward to seeing that male.

[btkrausen]

Yeah hopefully he comes out tomorrow and I'll be able to snap some pics. Love that huge dorsal fin on him...can't wait to see him actually swimming around.

On a different note...I might be picking up a Blue Flasher tomorrow thats being held for me at the LFS :)

[minhvu]

Mine went into the pvc pipe and have been in there ever since

[reefjunkie42]

they seem stressed, im glad yours is going good bk. im hopin for the best.

[btkrausen]

Well....email sent. My male didn't make it through the night....although the female still looks well. Pretty bummed out honestly

[SDguy]

That sucks :( Did anyone ask when these landed on this continent vs when they got shipped to you all?

[btkrausen]

That sucks :( Did anyone ask when these landed on this continent vs when they got shipped to you all?

I can answer that question. He got them in at around noon on Tuesday and shipped them all back out on Wednesday. This is the reason I wanted to wait until being shipped on Thursday to at least give them a day to rest, but with Christmas quickly approaching I knew if the delivery didn't make it Friday it would be doomed.

In reality he should have taken pre-orders and held them for at least a week or so before shipping back out.

Edit: I'm not bashing NYA at all here, just my own personal opinion

[SDguy]

It's OK, I really don't think it's bashing to simply be discussing possible mistakes that can be avoided in the future. I'd like to think everyone involved only wants the best for these fish.

[btkrausen]

It's OK, I really don't think it's bashing to simply be discussing possible mistakes that can be avoided in the future. I'd like to think everyone involved only wants the best for these fish.

Absolutely. We're all at fault here...NYA is a business and wants/needs to make money and we as hobbyists want these rare/uncommon fish in their tanks ASAP...

Sometimes the excitement of something overpowers the right thing to do and we don't realize it until after the fact. I really should have gone with my first instinction to have him hold mine til after Christmas to give them a much better chance.

Lesson learned for all of us :fish1:

[reefjunkie42]

My female didn't make it either, it is sad that all these fish died:-( such an uncommon specimen dead! It kills me I wish we didn't even have them, I feel like all this could have been avoided. Sucks

[aquaph8]

I agree that sometimes our excitement out weighs doing the right thing but they should have never been listed on the website the same day they arrived. These arent even fragile fish IMO, they're pretty hardy. Its sad things went this way, hopefully things go better next time. RJ42, sorry about the female I hoped she would through for you.

[reefjunkie42]

Thanks aqua me too:-/ I agree they shouldn't have been listed, or preorder only something like that. But that isn't our call, I rememeber saying if they look good ship them, that is a call he as a supplier needed to make. I had no Bearing on the decision. Idk it's kind of unfortunate. Has anyone else heard from mike today? I emailed him with no response so far.

[aquaph8]

Very funny, someone hacked my profile picture.

[aquaph8]

Fixed it

[reefjunkie42]

? Has anyone heard from mike?

[aquaph8]

I also emailed him today with no reply. Maybe he's off for Christmas.

[reefjunkie42]

Does anyone know of minhvu's fish made it?

[btkrausen]

I emailed him twice with no response...however he did 'respond' to my pic of the dead male with my request for a refund with a Paypal refund so he was at least checking it.

[minhvu]

That's really suck to hear that. Mine doing well, he actually came out of the PVC and ate a good bit of mysis today. Hopefully he'll make it. He'll stay in qt until I can get him inoto pellet. I won't start any medication until he feel more comfortable.

[btkrausen]

Nice to hear minhvu, glad yours is doing ok. You'll have one of the only males to survive the trip.

Hopefully all the females turn into nice males :) Mine certainly has her work cut out as my tank is full of mostly male wrasses...

[reefjunkie42]

brian, it shouldnt matter as long as you dont have other 8line males, it seems all wrasses eventually go male:( still no email from him. kind of lame. merry x mas all my wrasse junkies!

[aquaph8]

Merry Christmas guys

[minhvu]

Merry Christmas

I remember Nya had some earlier in the year and some reefers here bought some. How are they doing? Any tips on keeping them?

[NyReefNoob]

on a note you wont hear from him today as he is jewish and wont be on a phone, internet ect.

for people asking about price, i will say this as it took me 3 years to get this fish, yes 3 years ive been trying to get a pair, ive had mine a little over a year now, and no i didnt get them from nya

[SDguy]

on a note you wont hear from him today as he is jewish and wont be on a phone, internet ect.

for people asking about price, i will say this as it took me 3 years to get this fish, yes 3 years ive been trying to get a pair, ive had mine a little over a year now, and no i didnt get them from nya

huh?

[reefjunkie42]

huh?


well i heard from him on the internet today....not sure what that means but i did get a refund.

[btkrausen]

Well....had to send another email cause my Debelius wrasse I got from him didn't make it but a full week. Had some type of contusion on his head and tried to medicate him but he never came around. Out of a decent sized order....I ended up with 3 damsels and a Lamarks angel. Three wrasses, one 8 line, and 2 damsels all coming for NYA didn't make it. A few were DOA, one lasted a day, and this one a week.

On a side note, other fish coming in from a different vendor the same day last week are doing awesome....just throwing that in there before somebody says....its your setup, etc :)

[auem]

hmm.....

[reefjunkie42]

I don't want this to turn into a bashing Nya thread, but that does seem like a high ratio of deaths..

[btkrausen]

Yeah, I wasn't meaning to bash him at all...just frustrated more or less.

Keep us updated on shipping of the replacement 8 lines. Hopefully those guys will do much better after relaxing for almost a week.

[reefjunkie42]

i agree, I mean it is unfortunate, but he has stood behind his guarentee. I am happy to say my lone female is doing well, she is active and searching for food.

[NyReefNoob]

what i meant was he is closed saturdays due to his religion so you might not have gotten a response back from him on saturday.

other part was in refferance to people asking about price and was just stating this isnt a easy fish to get

[btkrausen]

Glad to hear Dex...hopefully she'll do great for you. Mine is in a Furan-2 treatment to help with a small issue with her dorsal fin but its looking better already.

[btkrausen]

Happy to report my female eight line is eating medium sized NLS pellets. Hopefully that's a good sign of her future.

[reefjunkie42]

That's awesome Brian pretty sweet fish, she swims very majestically

[minhvu]

Little update. Just got back from Christmas trip. He's still alive and ate a good bit of mysis. I'll start the furan2 treatment tomorrow. I did noticed some fin damage also

[ttran]

This isn't about the 8 line wrasses but about the some other wrasses i got last week from NYA. I bought the harem of psychead wrasses from them. When they arrived the male and 1 female were already dead. The male must of died right after he shipped them because the water had such a foul odor and it looked pretty bad. I emailed him the photos right away. Funny thing was he said those guys usually ship "pretty well" and all the research i've done say they ship horribly. Long story short he offered to send me a replacement pair that arrived on 12/22. Female was DOA and male was barely alive (all his fins were tore up along with his mouth). I knew he wasn't gonna make it but still acclimated for 3 hours and put him in qt. He died that night. I didn't bother calling NYA because their guarantee does not cover replacements. This is the second time that I've bought fishes from them and I don't have a single fish to show for it. Both times that i ordered from him-I always ask if they're eating and he always says they're eating and doing great. And this last time he charged me $85 to ship (i've never paid that much for shipping-even from Hawaii). He won't get me a third time.

Sorry- not trying to derail this thread. Just wanted to pass along my experiences with this vendor where these beautiful 8 line wrasses are coming from. I hope they all make it for you guys.

[reefjunkie42]

i do appreciate the message, but it should be in the vender feedback forum, id like to keep this geared toward 8lines and their success in captivity, feeding, behavior, ect.

On a side note(not trying to prove you wrong or anything like that) but i bought 2 female psychead wrasses from him, and they were alive and well. still with me. they are about amonth old and eat well and arent skinny. Im not saying your wrong, but males do ship bad, thats why i opted for 2 females. hoping 1 would change(not sure if anampses species can even change like this) also he did follow the gaurentee, I got the same thing a while back, thats the reason i canceled the order, cant risk losing 600+ of fish. and only have 1 shot, no back up. but he did apologize for the deaths and agree that the reason was they shipped to fast and he admitted it was his fault. as for your order i dont know the details, but also you mentioned QT it is recommeded to qt everything, that said i didnt these because of there fragile nature and need for an established sand bed and LR. HTH

This isn't about the 8 line wrasses but about the some other wrasses i got last week from NYA. I bought the harem of psychead wrasses from them. When they arrived the male and 1 female were already dead. The male must of died right after he shipped them because the water had such a foul odor and it looked pretty bad. I emailed him the photos right away. Funny thing was he said those guys usually ship "pretty well" and all the research i've done say they ship horribly. Long story short he offered to send me a replacement pair that arrived on 12/22. Female was DOA and male was barely alive (all his fins were tore up along with his mouth). I knew he wasn't gonna make it but still acclimated for 3 hours and put him in qt. He died that night. I didn't bother calling NYA because their guarantee does not cover replacements. This is the second time that I've bought fishes from them and I don't have a single fish to show for it. Both times that i ordered from him-I always ask if they're eating and he always says they're eating and doing great. And this last time he charged me $85 to ship (i've never paid that much for shipping-even from Hawaii). He won't get me a third time.

Sorry- not trying to derail this thread. Just wanted to pass along my experiences with this vendor where these beautiful 8 line wrasses are coming from. I hope they all make it for you guys.

[prop-frags]

Wow! We haven't been on much with the holidays, so just stumbled upon this thread.

Sorry to say we also purchased a pair of them and ended up with a DOA male. The other is not in great shape - mouth damage, missing a ventral fin and a tear in it's anal fin. It spent the first two days laying in the corner of our QT tank and we were a bit dubious about whether it would pull through. Thankfully, it took a turn for the better on Sunday. It is much more aware of it's surroundings now, swimming some and eating mysis. We're cautiously optimistic that it will make it.

We're feeling guilty for not talking w/Mike on the phone and asking how long he had the fish prior to shipping. Had we been aware, we would have waited.

[btkrausen]

Thanks for sharing M&T...sorry to hear you lost your male as well but glad to hear your female is doing better and hopefully she pulls through.

Seems Mike lost quite a bit of these and I hope that doesn't stop him from bringing in other nice fish for the hobby.

[aquaph8]

Sorry for your loss M&T. I got a new tracking number this morning so I guess were gonna try again tomorrow. I didn't know he was gonna ship out today until he had already shipped so I guess its a go. Ill let you guys know tomorrow how it goes, wish me luck.

[btkrausen]

Good for you Brett...wishing you well on this new shipment.

My female is now eating mysis, bloodworms, and NLS. She was flashing the heck out of the newcomer to the QT yesterday morning. I put in a nice male Blue Flasher I got from the LFS and she opened up big time, flashing him all over the tank. He was flashing back, but they quickly learned to live with one another and were fine after an hour or so.

[reefjunkie42]

Nice Brian! I'm glad to hear they calmed down! And good luck Brett, please be sure to keep us posted ect. I sure do hope all goes well for you. On a side note my female is doing great! I mean she is eating and doing wonderful.

[reefjunkie42]

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[reefjunkie42]

new pics of the girl

[billyzbear]

I saw a big male at vivid about five years ago. I wanted to get it but at the time I had a large lyretail anthias that wouldn't allow any new fish. I have been looking for one for two years now with no luck. NYA is in new york? Sorry never heard of them. I'm on the west coast. Price?

[reefjunkie42]

I saw a big male at vivid about five years ago. I wanted to get it but at the time I had a large lyretail anthias that wouldn't allow any new fish. I have been looking for one for two years now with no luck. NYA is in new york? Sorry never heard of them. I'm on the west coast. Price?

New york Aquatics. check out there website, they have females for 200 and HAD males but they all are sold or dead, they were 260.

[btkrausen]

new pics of the girl

Great pics. Mine doesn't look as striking....hopefully cause I have a 6500 bulb on the QT tank and it makes fish look pale, haha.

The small issue on mine looks to be healing up as she's in her 4th day of the Furan-2 treatment which is at its strongest today. Tomorrow will bring a 25% water change and carbon to clear up the water.

How long do you plan to keep her in the QT tank?

[reefjunkie42]

I haven't even run any meds yet, she had a small fin issue but it's healed up. I don't really want to treat to soon. Im in no rush, also I m thinking about removing a few fish from my dt. Still in the air

[minhvu]

Sad news for me. Mine die a little while ago. Been battling ich for a few days. I treated with cupermine but it didn't make it through it.

[reefjunkie42]

Im sorry to hear you lost your. IM hoping mine will pull through she seems like a G.

[btkrausen]

Yikes, sorry to hear that. This thread is going south quickly as fewer and fewer of these are surviving. Hopefully we've heard all the bad news

[pacislandaqua]

I wouldn't treat for any ripped fins or anything like that. They heal up quickly with clean water a full belly. sores on the side or something, i would treat asap.

[reefjunkie42]

i didnt treat and it healed nicely i agree i try to not treat if possible.

[btkrausen]

I only treated because I had another fish that was going downhill and I figured it wouldn't hurt the 8 line either.

[aquaph8]

Mine should be here sometime this morning. It's pretty nerve racking this time around cause I'm at work and my wife is taking care of everything. She'll do a good job though, hopefully we receive a lot healthier fish this time around. Always tough when I can't be there.

[btkrausen]

Good luck Brett....keep us updated on how it goes.

[LargeAngels]

That is a very high mortality rate. If he ever brings in more I hope he keeps them for at least two weeks to see if they even make it at his place.

[reefjunkie42]

He's a good guy, people mess up, it's what you do when you mess up that separates men from boys, and I can't speak for everyone, but he did live up to his policies and guarentees. So I can't fault him for that. I think we all just got swept up on wanting these fish, however I would have not minded waiting, especially at the cost of losing such rare fish hobby wide, that's the most tragic of all of this, that we took them
Out of there habitats where they were thriving to just end up dead

[btkrausen]

Ok Brett....lets hear the good news about the new guy :) :) :)

[reefjunkie42]

Right in waiting too!!

[aquaph8]

Hes alive this time, which is a big +++. He looks well but I havent turned the lights on yet. So far he's still recovering and just kinda hanging out. Time will tell I guess, I'll keep you guys posted.

[bradleyj]

Best of luck Brett. Keeping good thoughts.

[prop-frags]

Hes alive this time, which is a big +++. He looks well but I havent turned the lights on yet. So far he's still recovering and just kinda hanging out. Time will tell I guess, I'll keep you guys posted.

We've been anxiously waiting for this update man! Glad to hear the good news Brett.

[aquaph8]

Thanks guys, I think he'll be fine after some R and R. These fish are giving me a ton of anxiety lately.

[reefjunkie42]

Hes alive this time, which is a big +++. He looks well but I havent turned the lights on yet. So far he's still recovering and just kinda hanging out. Time will tell I guess, I'll keep you guys posted.

Thats great to hear! please share some photos when hes settled in. You might have gotten the only live male. good luck bud

[aquaph8]

thanks, M&T^^^^ have one still too.

[patrick28]

Havent posted much on RC but I have been following along on this thread because I also ordered a pair of rs8 lines. My male also arrived doa but my female is doing good. I recieved an instock email from LA today saying males 8lines where in stock $89.99. Makes me feel like I may have jumped the gun. So for everyone who lost a 260.00 male male it would be a great chance to get another. I just thought I would share.

[prop-frags]

We ordered a male/female pair, but ended up with two males - one DOA. Here's a pic of our survivor:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/terryl93/6590337951/" title="nt 1906 by terryl93, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7035/6590337951_68325f8743_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="nt 1906"></a>

Not the best pic, but I didn't want to stress him unnecessarily.

-Terry

[btkrausen]

Havent posted much on RC but I have been following along on this thread because I also ordered a pair of rs8 lines. My male also arrived doa but my female is doing good. I recieved an instock email from LA today saying males 8lines where in stock $89.99. Makes me feel like I may have jumped the gun. So for everyone who lost a 260.00 male male it would be a great chance to get another. I just thought I would share.

Nice, thanks for the information. I ordered a male from LiveAquaria for $89.99. Incredible.

Hope everybody jumps on this and can get a replacement for a third of the price.

[btkrausen]

Nice Terry, definitely a male that you have there and he looks great.

[SDguy]

LA did some ninja style posting of that fish this morning. A friend and I were lucky enough to catch it first thing :D

[btkrausen]

LA did some ninja style posting of that fish this morning. A friend and I were lucky enough to catch it first thing :D

Nice. They didn't even put the "New Item" around it or anything, haha.

I'm excited I was able to order one as such a cheaper price. I requested a Friday (next Friday) delivery as I ordered a few other fish as well.

[SDguy]

Ours aren't even going to be here until Wed.

[btkrausen]

Ours aren't even going to be here until Wed.

Yeah, the holiday would push it til then which is why I didn't see an issue with them holding an extra day or two. Make sure to post us updates :)

[SDguy]

I sure will. This was one of the few flashers that I like, so I decided to grab it. I spoke to Kevin about some coming in along with some paucifasciatus butterflies. I wonder if this means they came in as well :eek2:

[minhvu]

That's awesome. I snag one too. I had to double check just to be sure that was the right one at $90

[btkrausen]

That's awesome. I snag one too. I had to double check just to be sure that was the right one at $90

Exactly what I did....as I assumed it was the Eightline wrasse closely related to the 4 line (Pseudocheilinus octotaenia)

[btkrausen]

Just thought I'd share some pics of my girl in QT as I finally got some decent shots:

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o152/btkrausen/200%20DD%20Build/DSC_3428.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o152/btkrausen/200%20DD%20Build/DSC_3425.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o152/btkrausen/200%20DD%20Build/DSC_3420.jpg

And my favorite:

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o152/btkrausen/200%20DD%20Build/DSC_3423.jpg

[SDguy]

I love the radiating stripes from the eyes.

[minhvu]

That's a pretty little girl. Glad she's doing good for u

[jt_milstead]

Fingers crossed!!

[btkrausen]

Want to get your thoughts on pairing up the two. I have the male coming next week and he'll be going into the QT. Do you think it's best to keep the female in the QT when I introduce him or should I move her to the DT by then?

LA says that the female should be introduced first or both together, so I'm good in that aspect.

Thoughts?

[SDguy]

I would QT both together, no?

[reefjunkie42]

I would QT both together, no?

I would qt both together also

[btkrausen]

Yeah, thats what I'm asking. When the male comes in she'll be in QT for over 2 weeks already...not that 2 weeks is a limit, haha. I'll just have to keep a close eye on them.

I did request a large male from LA so hopefully they'll come through but I guess we'll see.

[btkrausen]

Thanks for the quick replies guys. Two votes for together so that's how it'll be :)

[reefjunkie42]

it seems when vendors get these fish, its in large numbers.(20+)

[SDguy]

I've seen wrasse shipments at wholesalers before. The numbers can be astonishing!

[btkrausen]

Here is a crappy pic of my other fish in QT right now....Blue Flasher. I originally got one from NYA but it was DOA. Requested my LFS to get one since I saw them on the wholesale list and picked him up the day after Christmas.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o152/btkrausen/200%20DD%20Build/DSC_3430.jpg

[SDguy]

Every time I see those, they look like they are about to die, and lack proper swimming ability :o Hope yours is doing well!

[btkrausen]

Yeah, he's doing well so far. He's eating pellets and swimming around the tank a little more each day. I plan to keep in him QT for a while until he beefs up a bit.

[bradleyj]

Thanks to both of you this morning for giving me the heads up.( Peter & Bryan).
Now I guess I'll get to play on this thread also. LOL
Sometimes it pays off to be a wrasseman.
I also have a Lennardi coming tomorrow from Eric. Post xmas gifts to myself. :-)

[reefjunkie42]

Thanks to both of you this morning for giving me the heads up.( Peter & Bryan).
Now I guess I'll get to play on this thread also. LOL
Sometimes it pays off to be a wrasseman.
I also have a Lennardi coming tomorrow from Eric. Post xmas gifts to myself. :-)

Welcome aboard Bradley! nice pick ups! i have always loved the lennardi so i wonder how many of us ordered from LA, and who will actually get 1. Kind of cool that these fish are showing up in larger numbers.

[launchnukes]

I ordered one from LA at 7:10am est. Lol. Woke up to the email and couldn't pass. I don't even remember signing up for the notification, must have been over a year ago. He's suppose to arrive tomorrow.

[btkrausen]

I ordered one from LA at 7:10am est. Lol. Woke up to the email and couldn't pass. I don't even remember signing up for the notification, must have been over a year ago. He's suppose to arrive tomorrow.

Nice. I was hoping to get my order in early enough to ship today but it was too late. Oh well...I can be patient.

Please update the thread on how he does and show us some pics if you can :)

[aquaph8]

Mines doing well, he's a pretty shy fish but ate a little and looks nice and healthy. I cant get good pics in my QT, I tried though.

[NyReefNoob]

< is glad you guys are getting them but also i dont feel so special as not alot of people had these so i felt special, especially since it too me so long to get mine
and really not liking bradley right now lol

[btkrausen]

< is glad you guys are getting them but also i dont feel so special as not alot of people had these so i felt special, especially since it too me so long to get mine
and really not liking bradley right now lol

Yeah, that was one thing I was excited about as well since they were pretty uncommon. haha. Oh well, I'm just happy to have the opportunity to get them and enjoy their beauty.

[bradleyj]

< is glad you guys are getting them but also i dont feel so special as not alot of people had these so i felt special, especially since it too me so long to get mine
and really not liking bradley right now lol


WHAT.....lol :lolspin::fun2:

[reefjunkie42]

I still don't think well see them left and right...or will we? It seems like good things come in waves.

[SDguy]

Can't blame people for liking them... they are VERY different looking that other flasher wrasses.

[reefjunkie42]

OK guys, I am thinking if any of us havent received a tracking number we probably wont. My thinking on this is because when I ordered around noon, the email said it will be filled from available stock on the day shipped, and since they are yanked from LA Im thinking that they are all gone, what does everyone think?.. how many people should be getting theres tomorrow?

[btkrausen]

Orders Placed by 9:30 a.m. CST on Friday,December 30

Delivery Date for Fish, Corals, Inverts & Algae on Wednesday, January 4

Cutoff time is 9:30am CST (http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/general.cfm?general_pagesid=49)

[btkrausen]

You should be fine in regards to getting one if you placed the order, but because of the New Years holiday and the early cutoff time it probably won't ship til Tuesday for Wednesday delivery.

[launchnukes]

OK guys, I am thinking if any of us havent received a tracking number we probably wont. My thinking on this is because when I ordered around noon, the email said it will be filled from available stock on the day shipped, and since they are yanked from LA Im thinking that they are all gone, what does everyone think?.. how many people should be getting theres tomorrow?

I got my shipping info at 6pm. Scheduled for delivery tomorrow. :) I just checked and they're out of stock now. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....

[launchnukes]

< is glad you guys are getting them but also i dont feel so special as not alot of people had these so i felt special, especially since it too me so long to get mine
and really not liking bradley right now lol

I can understand your feelings but out of the thousands of members on rc and millions in the hobby, at least only 4-5 of us are picking one up and we're all wrasse nuts so its not too bad. Plus who knows which ones will survive, who will actually get one, etc.

Oh, and I hate bradley too ;)

[fishnerd]

When this happened with the juvi blueline angels all orders were upheld. Those who got their orders in are lucky SOB's :$

[btkrausen]

Look what I just saw:

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378735_265850916807674_165873396805427_692567_1066783496_n.jpg

[btkrausen]

I got my shipping info at 6pm. Scheduled for delivery tomorrow. :) I just checked and they're out of stock now. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....

When did you order yours?

[launchnukes]

When did you order yours?

It was early, like just before 8am est.

[btkrausen]

Yeah, you got it ordered before their cutoff time in which most of us probably did not. I know that I didn't get it in soon enough.

[minhvu]

Wait, are yall saying that I might not be getting one? I got an order confirmation but mine not shipping till next week. LA got to have some sort of inventory count on there website, shouldn't they?

[btkrausen]

Wait, are yall saying that I might not be getting one? I got an order confirmation but mine not shipping till next week. LA got to have some sort of inventory count on there website, shouldn't they?

Yes, if you got an order conf you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Most of us didn't get in for the cutoff this morning so they didn't ship today.

[minhvu]

oh, ok. Scared me for a sec there

[jt_milstead]

Hey Peter have you gotten any confirmation on ours?

[reefjunkie42]

i have gotten a confirm. before and then got refunded on a fish. so its not 100% if even with a confir. that they will ship it and have it in stock. Im hopeful, but also have other options;-)

[Big E]

Nice, thanks for the information. I ordered a male from LiveAquaria for $89.99. Incredible.

Hope everybody jumps on this and can get a replacement for a third of the price.




Like I have reiterated twice in this thread.................be patient & let the prices come down to acceptable levels. A week later & it's $90.

[SDguy]

Hey Peter have you gotten any confirmation on ours?

Yup, we're all set :) PM sent with all sorts of fun info I discovered :D

[Jeremy Blaze]

I miss the days when flashers and faires weren't the 'cool' fish to have. I was able to stock my 125 flasher/ fairy tank for the cost of what these individuals are costing now!

[SDguy]

I dunno... I don't recall Red Sea fish ever being very cheap... I certainly don't miss the days of $1K asfur angels :lol:

[Jeremy Blaze]

True. Whatever happened to all those cheap tank bred angels we were supposed to start seeing?

Grouchy old salt here! ;)

I got my red sea flashers about 5-6 years ago, for less than $40 I know. Of course these fuel and freight costs have gone up so much since then, that plays a factor in it as well as demand.

[SDguy]

Yeah, about 4 years ago I got a purple tang for $40 and my asfur for $80. I think that's the cheapest I ever saw any Red Sea fish.

[jt_milstead]

Yup, we're all set :) PM sent with all sorts of fun info I discovered :D

Thanks again for the info Peter....

[btkrausen]

I don't know about you guys but I don't buy the wrasses cause they are "cool" I buy them because of their colors and being very active fish with little aggression.

Prices went up when they stopped bringing them in, just like the Purple tangs, Chevron tangs, and more. They used to be dirt cheap and abundant, but once they quit coming in, prices shot up for the few that do show up.

[SDguy]

If I only bought stuff that other people thought was cool, I'd have some really rare, and really fugly fish :wildone:

[btkrausen]

Anybody get theirs yet today? Curious to see an update and/or some pictures.

[Texsun]

Hey, where was the 8-line club before? I posted here about getting one from NYA about a year ago and heard only crickets.

Hope you guys enjoy them! Mine didn't last long due to overly-aggressive Pink Margin but it's a beautiful fish and tempted to try out another one

[fishnerd]

LiveAquaria reloaded this morning with some more 8-lines and quickly sold out, this time with with a price tag of $129.99. Got mine while the getting was good ;)

[launchnukes]

still at work so I dont have time for a long post but anyway.....

shipment arrived and I snuck out of work for an hour to acclimate the new arrival and take a quick phone pic. I'll get better ones tonight. The fish looks good and he's a good size (probabaly a bit shy of 3 inches) i'm always reluctant to get non wysiwyg fish but i'm definatly happy with this one.

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/usaauto123/8line1.jpg

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/usaauto123/8line2.jpg

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/usaauto123/8line3.jpg

now back to work.

[sedgro]

Sigh, be sure to cover your tanks well. I got this one from Old Town Aquarium in Chicago in ~2003.


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[reefjunkie42]

Oh I'm sure we all get em covered round these parts;-);-)

[skibum9884]

Ah!!!! How do I keep missing these guys!!! Where are they showing up? In the regular reef-safe wrasse section or the "Collector's Corner?" I'm sure there will be some on DD, but probably at a premium, and I'm sure they'll go fast.

[aznepydna]

Ah!!!! How do I keep missing these guys!!! Where are they showing up? In the regular reef-safe wrasse section or the "Collector's Corner?" I'm sure there will be some on DD, but probably at a premium, and I'm sure they'll go fast.

Reef safe wrasse secton. They are listed now at $129.99.

[jt_milstead]

Looks like they still have some small....

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+1378+1408&pcatid=1408

[huskerreef]

From what I have seen lately these rare wrasses come in at the same time, places like LA and Pacific Island I know QT and that may be why they have a better survival rate than NYA, although I have no knowledge or clue how NYA does business so its unfair for me to assume. What I do know is how the other 2 do bisiness and I get a lot from PIA for my store and always look great and healthy and hopefully some of these beauties will make it my way for my home collection :)

[btkrausen]

Ah!!!! How do I keep missing these guys!!! Where are they showing up? In the regular reef-safe wrasse section or the "Collector's Corner?" I'm sure there will be some on DD, but probably at a premium, and I'm sure they'll go fast.

Keep an eye on Pacific Island Aquatics as they should be listing some soon. LA still has them available but the description changed from "male" to "small".

[jt_milstead]

Keep an eye on Pacific Island Aquatics as they should be listing some soon. LA still has them available but the description changed from "male" to "small".

Good catch....Ours were listed as male...

[h0bite]

Hi all, sorry for my dumb question...but what <wysiwyg fish> mean ??
Thanks
David

[Jeremy Blaze]

Is Pacific Island Aquatics a retailer or a wholesaler?

I wasn't accusing anyone of buying them because they are cool, but they certianly have become more cool and popular in the hobby, which has caused an artificial inflation of the retail price.

The Red Sea thing is weird. Everything was super expensive in the 90's, then they started importing more, and prices started dropping a lot in the 2000's ,then, BOOM! Everything jumped way up.

Purple tangs were $150 sm, then by 2001 you could get them for $75, now they are back up near $200. Retail pricing wise.

What disappointed me with flashers, was they never looked as good as the super male in flashing mode pics you always see.

I like flashers and faries, had many of them, including some of the first pairs of Debelus that came into the hobby years ago.

I much rather see these get popular, become cool, and attract the attention they deserve, as apposed to the CULLS, or I mean Designer, Clownfish that are bringing rediculous money.

Now if we could just start breeding some of these wrasses, and take the burden off the wildstocks, that would be something!

[btkrausen]

Hi all, sorry for my dumb question...but what <wysiwyg fish> mean ??
Thanks
David

What you see is what you get - in other words, the picture is of the exact fish that you'll get instead of being a stock photo

[btkrausen]

Breeding wrasses would be awesome. I know that LADD has a spawning pair of Johnsoni right now.

PIA is a retailer and a sponsor of RC.

[h0bite]

What you see is what you get - in other words, the picture is of the exact fish that you'll get instead of being a stock photoOk, thank you! Live aquaria DD work that way!

[btkrausen]

Ok, thank you! Live aquaria DD work that way!

Yes, but just the Divers Den side. The other side isn't WYSIWYG but still nice fish.

[Jeremy Blaze]

Breeding wrasses would be awesome. I know that LADD has a spawning pair of Johnsoni right now.

PIA is a retailer and a sponsor of RC.

Cool. it would be awsome, and should be doable. Unfortunatly, captive breeding marines is not yet the easily profitable venture, so it may never really happen on a large scale. But it seems to be working for ORA, so maybe at some point others will invest in it.

[btkrausen]

Ok, thank you! Live aquaria DD work that way!

Yes, but just the Divers Den side. The other side isn't WYSIWYG but still are nice fish.

[aquaph8]

Sigh, be sure to cover your tanks well. I got this one from Old Town Aquarium in Chicago in ~2003.


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He was gorgeous, how big was he?

[btkrausen]

I hope mine develops that solid red like that.

[aquaph8]

Me too!

[reefjunkie42]

my johnsoni spawns nightly, most wrasses do, but it is very very hard to breed the larvae. fairy wrasses unlike flashers are neat spanwers, as flashers are messy. hence more hybrid flasshers than fairies.:) Happy New years..im off to work...

[LargeAngels]

The large are now $219 at Live Aquaria.

[aquaph8]

Wow, thats a big increase from a couple days ago.

[btkrausen]

I don't even see they are available any longer...I just checked the site.

Very interesting...wonder if the price will continue to rise.

[LargeAngels]

Is it an increase or was it a mistake the first time?

[SDguy]

I was thinking mistake from the get go...

[btkrausen]

I was thinking mistake from the get go...

Exactly what I was thinking....

[snorvich]

Exactly what I was thinking....

It has happened in the past, and I was fortunate enough to take advantage of it. Luck is always great.

[z's_N_p's]

It has happened in the past, and I was fortunate enough to take advantage of it. Luck is always great.
haha.. amen! :)

sometimes, it's good to just pay 50-100% increase than 200%. ;)

[btkrausen]

It has happened in the past, and I was fortunate enough to take advantage of it. Luck is always great.

Yup, I think the first group of us got lucky on this one...I just hope they don't give me a smaller male cause I got in at the cheaper price or anything. I did request a larger male since the description just said "Male" because I have my female already.

I'll take a $200 wrasse for $89.99 any day of the week :fish1:

[jt_milstead]

Can't wait till Wednesday.....

[minhvu]

Maybe LA was just taking care of us since we paid so much for the first batch that mostly didn't make it lol

[reefjunkie42]

I called and we are getting males as we paid for them. I personally wouldnt mind a smaller male, but a large 1 would be great too.

[iamwrasseman]

i quickly read through this tread and if you are ordering through fed ex its best to find out your hub and have it held there as you can pick them up a 8;30 guaranteed . they have to be on the truck by 8 am so they can all leave at or before 9 am and if you have them held there you can just go there and get them at 8;30 . i have done this many ,many times myself. also the eight line flasher is such a delicate shipper that i would suggest that you acclimate them and put them directly into your display tank as they will have so much better of a chance imo.

[aquaph8]

They do just fine in QT too. I never understood putting a hungry fish in a tank with a bunch of competition when you can put them in a tank by themselves and give them a little R and R and a fat belly. I have way too much money invested in fish to risk anything getting in my display.

[iamwrasseman]

over the years i have found this to have a much higher success rate then in a QT but everyone has their own ways just trying to help my friend .and yes you definatly have to keep them all fed and happy from the get go .

[aquaph8]

To each his own, Happy Reefing Dave.:)

[iamwrasseman]

and to you too !

[btkrausen]

FWIW, my female 8 line did great in quarantine and is still in there. She's swimming around nicely in there with one small Blue flasher and 2 small damsels. She's getting braver as the days go by and rarely runs to hide when I come to the tank now.

Can't wait to get the male this week and watch the reactions. Hopefully everyone gets along great :)

[iamwrasseman]

here's a couple shots of mine ,they did well for three years or so and then just found a way out of my tank .darn wrasses will find the smallest of holes ,one got out and the other went through an overflow that was covered with mesh screen . to this day i have no clue how they got through .Houdini ?

[btkrausen]

Ahh...the full moon, haha. I love the looks of a flashing 8 line male which is the biggest reason I wanted these guys. Love that red and yellow coloration.

[btkrausen]

Well...I thought this was pretty interesting....

LiveAquaria called me today and asked me if I was looking for the Paracheliinus or the Pseudocheilinus...in which I explain Paracheliinus of course :) They said that the vendor didn't have any males and that I'd be getting a 'small' wrasse now. Kind of disappointed since they listed a male...I purchased a male...and they wanted to send me a small/female. With no choice, I agreed with an explanation saying that it was kind of a bait and switch....to which they apologized profusely.

A few minutes later, I get a call back saying they had a few of those wrasses in Wisconsin at the Divers Den facility and they would send me one of those instead. She said they were still female but 3 inches long. Still kind of disappointed that I'm getting a female (since I already have one) but I assume that one will change, plus I'm still happy getting it for $89.99, especially one from the Divers Den facility and not QM.

[btkrausen]

Well...I thought this was pretty interesting....

LiveAquaria called me today and asked me if I was looking for the Paracheliinus or the Pseudocheilinus...in which I explain Paracheliinus of course :) They said that the vendor didn't have any males and that I'd be getting a 'small' wrasse now. Kind of disappointed since they listed a male...I purchased a male...and they wanted to send me a small/female. With no choice, I agreed with an explanation saying that it was kind of a bait and switch....to which they apologized profusely.

A few minutes later, I get a call back saying they had a few of those wrasses in Wisconsin at the Divers Den facility and they would send me one of those instead. She said they were still female but 3 inches long. Still kind of disappointed that I'm getting a female (since I already have one) but I assume that one will change, plus I'm still happy getting it for $89.99, especially one from the Divers Den facility and not QM.

[reefjunkie42]

That's not cool....did they call you this morning?

[SDguy]

They apparently had a major mixup. The item number they had listed for the $89 one was for the 8line fairy from indonesia, not the 8line flasher from Red Sea. But the description and picture was of the Red Sea fish. They told me to expect a phone call about it around 9am my time.