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nateqt
01/05/2012, 01:41 AM
Picked up this octopus today, not quite sure what species it is though

At the wholesalers it was just listed as "Pygmy octo east asia"

I think it is a O. Aculeatus but I am not sure, what do you guys think?

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g468/nateqt/IMG_20120104_211425.jpg

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g468/nateqt/IMG_20120104_211418.jpg

AlexS95
01/05/2012, 09:37 PM
Abdopus aculeatus or Abdopus abaculus.

nateqt
01/06/2012, 01:04 AM
that's what I'm thinking

baja_driver
01/06/2012, 04:38 PM
I have no experience with octo but its pretty cool.

asid61
01/06/2012, 04:57 PM
Where did you get it?

AlexS95
01/06/2012, 10:32 PM
that's what I'm thinking

It probably is aculeatus, because of the eye 'star' pattern, but it could be the dwarf version of it (the other one I said).

nateqt
01/07/2012, 01:53 AM
I got it from a wholesaler in LA

it was listed as Common dwarf octopus, east asia

so it could possibly be the dwarf version, if it is, what size tank do you think is the minimum it could be in?

nateqt
01/10/2012, 10:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzMYHNev5ME

bobafet1
01/23/2012, 07:32 AM
what size tank do you think is the minimum it could be in?

The responsible thing to do would have been to figure that out before you bought it.

Good luck staying alive Mr. Octopus.

cadre
01/24/2012, 11:13 AM
I'm willing to bet good money that this isn't the 'dwarf version'. LA probably gets these from Quality Marine like my old store did, we rarely got anything other than aculeatus. Besides, unless the perspective is way off, he looks fairly large (gonna guess it's a he but I could be wrong).

Do some research on keeping octopus, otherwise this little guy probably won't last long. The information is not hard to find at all. The first two weeks are when you will probably loose it.

On a more positive note, I have personally had the opportunity to care for many of these little guys. This is one of my favorite species because they are very active during the day and they will be very curious about you.

bobafet1
01/24/2012, 11:19 AM
Hey Cadre,
Did you have to keep the octopus in its own tank or will it get along with other smaller reef fish? I'm thinking it might have to be in a species only tank that needs to be sealed. Is that correct?

cadre
01/24/2012, 09:33 PM
Hey Cadre,
Did you have to keep the octopus in its own tank or will it get along with other smaller reef fish? I'm thinking it might have to be in a species only tank that needs to be sealed. Is that correct?

You cannot keep this animal in a critter keeper inside a larger tank and you cannot keep it with fish. You will need a species only tank and I hope you don't plan on setting up a new one because your octopus will either be dead by the time it cycles fully or the cycle will kill it if you put it in. Yes, you must have the tank sealed and you should cover any pipes or powerheads. These guys can escape pretty well, in my experience they don't like getting out of water but that doesn't mean it won't happen if they get curious.

All of this information and more is really easy to find. Take a look at the tonmo forums, they are specific to cephalopods.

nateqt
01/29/2012, 12:05 AM
didn't see these posts until now, turns out it's a fully grown abaculus female

I set up a new tank for her with rock from my other tanks a few days after I posted on here, she laid eggs a few days ago
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g468/nateqt/IMG_20120122_185849.jpg
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g468/nateqt/IMG_20120122_185844.jpg
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g468/nateqt/IMG_20120122_213354.jpg

cadre
01/29/2012, 10:59 AM
Sorry, I was hoping for the better outcome but unfortunately there are no guarantees. If you want to keep an octopus, do some research and call liveaquaria (I think you said that's where you got it), they may work with you to get a new one.

nateqt
01/29/2012, 10:21 PM
I got him straight from Quality Marine

Cephy
02/02/2012, 05:22 PM
Sadly when it comes to the availability of cephs, there would rarelly be any on the market. You'd have to take what available and not all specimens are young. This has happened many times before on tomno. There's a pathetic chance that you will find octopi eggs to start off with unlike cuttle eggs. Thats also why the people who choose to keep cuttlefish have a better chance of keeping one from birth to death..

Edit:

Looking on the bright side, since you got the octo recently. There could be a chance the eggs are fertile, but aquarist that have attepted to raise octos from a small egg species have reported little success

Cephy
02/03/2012, 05:56 AM
Yes, you must have the tank sealed and you should cover any pipes or powerheads. These guys can escape pretty well, in my experience they don't like getting out of water but that doesn't mean it won't happen if they get curious.

Believe it or not there had been some other methods of octo proofing a tank. Many lower the water level accompanied with a net (octos can't grip on nets that well if the water level is 3 inches lower which should be enough). Many other aquarist have cut out an thick piece of acrylic with the same dimensions of the tank with drilled air holes scattered all around (don't make them too big though. Here's a URL to a good DIY octo proof top.

http://www.tonmo.com/forums/showthread.php?16605-Escape-Proof-(and-idiot-proof)-Top-Tank-Lid

cadre how come your so paranoid with researching?

Agioniko
02/26/2012, 01:39 PM
awesome pictures