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AcidRayn
02/25/2012, 09:00 PM
so, ive been running a 75g for 2 1/2 years with 2 hob filters and a hob protein skimmer, first a sea clone and now a remora, they are both junk.

so, i bought up a system of a local guy getting out of the hobby, a 75 corner overflow with 20 gal fuge, a bunch of pumps power heads lights ro/di, i got everything but his stand, it was butt ugly.

so, i relized the corner overflow was alot of real estate, plus it was blocking a prime viewing angle, therefore it had to go. to i took it out, and siliconed a piece of glas over the 2 holes,

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9427/061dn.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9103/062uj.jpg

i smoothed out the silicone with a straight edge (a long saw sawzall blade, it was first thing i seen)

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/7175/063ej.jpg

then placed it, and ran a bead around the edges of the glass

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/9082/066z.jpg

and i put a light under it to help it cure, as the tank is in my garage and its not heated.

then i cut egg crate that will go under the sand, my tank now uses a shallow sand bed, and i had a rock slide once and heard the gut wrenching sound of rock hitting and sliding on the glass bottom, so no more.

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3585/067hw.jpg

AcidRayn
02/25/2012, 09:21 PM
next time to build my bean animal ohio river to colorado river. (ive heard of the coast to coast beans, going from side to side, well i m only going 24" across the back center, so ohio to colorado it is)

i did the 24" box, as im going to drill in 2 return on either side of it for the return lines, there will be nothing coming over the top of the tank.

i will be drilling an addtional 4 holes for 3/4" bulkheads, 2 supply and 2 return for a circulating pump, i will be eliminating any power heads from within the tank, unless i dont get the flow im expecting, there will be a total of 9 holes drilled in this tank.

the bulkheads and diamond hole saws will be here this week, and i will update this thread.

so, here is the table saw set up to cut the black 1/4" acrylic, mind you, i HAVE NEVER cut or worked with acrylic before, this is totally new to me.

also, take note of the pencil drawing on the saw of the 4 finger hand, a past employee of mine did lose a finger on this saw!!!!!

i couldnt find the fence, so a level and couple clamps set the 5" cut

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9797/068ct.jpg

heres the 4 pieces cut

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2904/069lf.jpg

next to cut the teeth into the front and 2 side pieces, note the blade directtion, i am sitting behind the saw, so i can pull the pieces into the teeth

DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME KIDS!! LEAVE IT TO THE **COUGH** PROFESSIONALS!!!!

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6407/070vs.jpg

Here are the pieces on my table, ready to be welded. notice the broken teeth, its cold out, and the acrylic got cold and brittle i think, and i lost 6 teeth, so i have to weld them back on, i should of clamped the piece to a piece of wood and cut through both, as a backing

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5382/073dv.jpg

my actual first ever welded acryic test piece, this is neat stuff!!!

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/7113/074ua.jpg

dental work complete

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8271/075ynv.jpg

back side welded. i used a speed square to make sure it set up square.

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/4774/076nt.jpg

front piece in place

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4615/078ir.jpg

almost finished product

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5294/082z.jpg

i need to sand out the end pieces to blend, starting with 150 grit and ending with a 1200, should nt be able to see the seams when im done.

like i said, i have never worked with this stuff before, i did a lot of reading and
then went for it.

the acrylic and glue were about $50. the bulkheads, hole saws, returns and that flexi return tube is about $100.
i guess i need about another $100 of valves, pipe, and various fittings to complete.
i'll post as i advance. any suggestions will be appreciated

AcidRayn
02/26/2012, 08:54 AM
upon some good advice, i will be cutting the teeth off today, as its been brought to my attention that the teeth are going to cut back my flow to a point of uselessness.
so off with their heads!!!

also, the mod whom pm'd me, i cant respond, as i dont have enough posts yet, but thanx for the heads up.

here are the pm's, i'd like to share them so others can see the reason.
remove it if i should not do this.

I wanted to bring up the idea of C2C overflows, or Ohio to Colorado, as you put it.

The idea is to maximize the the length of the "weir" (front edge of the overflow--the dam as it were.) The concept and advantage of course being rapid surface skimming in the tank. Hence, the longer the weir, the faster the surface is skimmed, independent of flow rate.

You went to the trouble to make a 'near' coast to cost, and then promptly, cut the length to what appears to be less than 1/4, by utilizing teeth.

The net result of this is nothing, making the near coast to coast just an exercise in cutting slots and gluing acrylic, with a flow capacity probably less than what you replaced. Plus the water level will be higher, thus drawing more subsurface water, than surface water. (physics) Plus the channeling will make it noisy, well--against one of the advantages of using a siphon system.

The work is good, however, it seems a bit counter intuitive. Scares me the way you cut the slots, though, seen a lot of fingers lost that way.

Best Regards.

Lol on the fingers. I've had that saw a long time and I'm super attentive when using it.

So, and I respect your opinion greatly, I should cut the slots off and just make it open flow like I seen other bean animals? My concern was critters getting into the box.
I could remove the teeth and put some egg crate along there if it. Evokes a problem.

As far as only going with the 24" box, I'm really strapped for cash at the moment and the 48" piece of acrylic was triple the price. With the tank drilled, if I don't like the performance, I can always put in a full coast to coast later. This is going to be a huge advancement over what I've had to present.

How far from the top of glass, down to center of 1" weir elbows should I drill?
I can't seem to find this info

Thanx for your help

AcidRayn
02/26/2012, 09:06 AM
does anyone have an idea, how far down, from the top of the glass, should the top edge of the water fall be? how far down to center of the elbows should the ?

Waddleboy
02/26/2012, 11:07 AM
if your drilling a 1" pipe i think its a 1 3/4" hole so people usually put it at least that the top of the hole one hole size from the top so i guess that makes your center 2 5/8" from the top if my math is correct

AcidRayn
02/26/2012, 11:14 AM
thanks waddleboy.

i actually went back thru a bunch of threads, esp the one on the beananimal setup, man thats alot of reading, and found that bean drilled 4.25" from the top of the trim to the center of the 1" bulkhead, but that is for a box that is 6" from top of trim to bottom of overflow. my overflow is only 5" deep, and will be open to flow on 3 sides, essentially giving me 34" of flow.

he states he has the front edge of the overflow is at the bottom of the trim, so the water line will never be below that line of visibilty.

im going to set the box, so that the bottom is 6" from the top of the trim, this puts my top edge of the waterfall, at the bottom of the trim, and i will drill the holes in the same place.

after i cut the teeth off today, the box is going to be 4 1/4" top to bottom.

i cant wait till the hole saws get here, i should have this done, and installed by next weekend

man, theres been alot of decisinons and changes since i first decided to do this.

Waddleboy
02/26/2012, 11:52 AM
welcome. Drilling them close to the top if you want wont harm it as long as your not near the edge. Remember when drilling to have water and let the drills weight do the work. looking forward to the progress!

nemosworld
02/26/2012, 02:16 PM
I think you should have left the back open on that box and use that piece for a top, all you would have to do is put a small spacer on the 4 corners to give it room to allow water in and largre critters out of the box, to keep anything that get's in there out of your pipes you can use the mesh from BRS over your pipes.

some pictures for you:
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/khromero/40%20Breeder/100910-5.jpg

cover over overflow
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/khromero/40%20Breeder/overflowaftercover.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/khromero/40%20Breeder/overflowcovercloseup.jpg

http://jandrstudios.smugmug.com/Other/20-gal-long-build/i-vRC3zsF/0/M/DSC01362-M.jpg

AcidRayn
02/26/2012, 05:13 PM
I think you should have left the back open on that box and use that piece for a top, all you would have to do is put a small spacer on the 4 corners to give it room to allow water in and largre critters out of the box, to keep anything that get's in there out of your pipes you can use the mesh from BRS over your pipes.

some pictures for you:
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/khromero/40%20Breeder/100910-5.jpg

cover over overflow
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/khromero/40%20Breeder/overflowaftercover.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/khromero/40%20Breeder/overflowcovercloseup.jpg

http://jandrstudios.smugmug.com/Other/20-gal-long-build/i-vRC3zsF/0/M/DSC01362-M.jpg

what size is your tank?
what size it the overflow box? all dimensions.
what size are the glass holes, and how far down from the top of the trim to center are the holes?

i have a piece left for the lid, got that covered
i cut the teeth off today, on the advice of another member

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3544/005gdi.jpg

thanks for the suggestions

AcidRayn
02/27/2012, 08:08 PM
well, i gota send Kudos out to the cats at glass holes, i placed my order on Feb 23rd for 3 1 inch bulkheads and 6 3/4" bulkheads, some of that flexi black ball return pipe, and the diamond hole saws, wholy bejesus!!!! the box came today at the office!!!!

get this, i open it up, utterly amazed that it was here already, free express shipping? who does that? and theres a twizzler and an airhead in the box!!! great price, fast delivery and frigging treats???? my gawd man!!!!

so, back to business, i got home, and started laying out the 9 holes,

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg13/scaled.php?server=13&filename=001bof.jpg&res=medium

all marked out. the bottom of the box will be 6" from top of trim, the center of the 1" bulkheads will be 4" from top of the trim, the weir, or waterfall, will be even with the bottom of the trim

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/166/002yi.jpg

i thought i had some plumbers putty at home, but it was old and dried up, so i had to improvise, as i live about 1/2 hr one way from nearest form of a home improvement or hardware store, so, my ol friend Rube Goldberg gave me an idea!!!!

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/6293/003geq.jpg

sacrificed an old plastic bowl, and ran a bead of silicone around the bottom, then stuck it to over the marked hole, and filled with some water, this, worked like a champ!!!!

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5767/004pb.jpg

then got the drill goin, slow and easy

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2070/005gzg.jpg

first hole down!!!
8 more to go!!!

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3074/006wim.jpg

all 9 holes done!!! i think im going to polish the slugs edges, and engrave them
and the kids can use them for GeoCache Coins

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/273/008ioo.jpg

tomorow ill clean the silicone off, drill the overflow box and start puttin the bulkheads in !!!

man, gettin pumped about this now!!!!

active
02/27/2012, 09:14 PM
that there is a lot of holes - im going to nic name you swiss cheese - lol - i ordered from the same place you did - got me a twizzler too - nice work

AcidRayn
02/28/2012, 05:52 AM
Yea I'm doing a closed loop recirculating system too.

Swiss cheese now that right there is funny I don't care who u are.

Yes glass holes was a pleasure to deal with and I shopped quite a bit and they were bought the cheapest, but with their service, it made up for any over payment, which I don't think was much, pennies.

knight2255
02/28/2012, 01:16 PM
Looks good, glad you posted this.

Blitzie
02/28/2012, 02:17 PM
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg13/scaled.php?server=13&filename=001bof.jpg&res=medium

Hello There and nice work
how are you attaching the overflow to the back glass of the aquarium. Are you just holding it in place with the bulkheads or some kind of sealant

AcidRayn
02/28/2012, 02:40 PM
It will have a bead of silicone arou d the perimeter of the overflow
And rings of silicone around the 3 holes for the bulkheads in between
The glass and overflow

AcidRayn
02/29/2012, 09:21 PM
well, got home from a day trip to the ohiblow river, echhh, and got some tank time,

got the overflow box drilled,

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg710/scaled.php?server=710&filename=001lfv.jpg&res=medium

got it mounted and siliconed in

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9600/002ndy.jpg

all bulkheads in, and cheesey lfs backround applied (if you need to know y, then you can ask her, i hate it)

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2253/003jp.jpg

these are invaluable for cutting pvc pipin

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4066/005iof.jpg

t's valves and unions in, tommorow the closed loop piping

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6606/006ffw.jpg

active
02/29/2012, 11:04 PM
what kind of bike in the back ground

Reefnut2010
02/29/2012, 11:07 PM
Good work !!

06bug
02/29/2012, 11:51 PM
Great thread!!! I'm getting a tank built in the very near future and also considering the Bean overflow.

AcidRayn
03/01/2012, 05:26 AM
what kind of bike in the back ground

2008 Harley ultra glide classic with 117 cu in engine built by me.

129 hp and 112 ft lbs torque. It displaces shoulders randomly

iadubber
03/01/2012, 07:12 AM
2008 Harley ultra glide classic with 117 cu in engine built by me.

129 hp and 112 ft lbs torque. It displaces shoulders randomly

Nice, any S&S parts? My uncle is the VP for R&D at S&S.

AcidRayn
03/01/2012, 07:34 AM
Nice, any S&S parts? My uncle is the VP for R&D at S&S.

S-s cylinders and heads with additional custom porting by me.

Custom made one off fuel injection system and intake.

Cutstome one off woods cams made to my specs

Plus some other goodies

active
03/01/2012, 10:34 AM
nice - 02 low rider here, 1450 - drag bars - full chrome - custom paint - vance and heins exhaust - you sturgis bound this summer, i think im going again its a blast

nemosworld
03/01/2012, 12:02 PM
what size is your tank?
what size it the overflow box? all dimensions.
what size are the glass holes, and how far down from the top of the trim to center are the holes?

i have a piece left for the lid, got that covered
i cut the teeth off today, on the advice of another member


Tank size is a 40 breeder, it's my buddies, i had a similar setup with out the top. but that's my fingers in the pic with the drain.

can't remember the overflow dimensions, been a while, i don't have the tank anymore, i keep upgrading,downgrading, upgrading, i now have a 220 gal.

the holes were cut about 1.5 inches from the bottom of the trim if i remember correctly.

sorry for the late response.

nemosworld
03/01/2012, 12:06 PM
setup looking good!

Daimyo68
03/01/2012, 12:13 PM
Love reading build threads. Gonna follow yours. :)

I just got my 75g running on Sunday with the BA drains, gotta love it. I went 1.5" pvc, with a single gate valve on the siphon (same way my 50g is setup).

I'm will be curious, when you start this up, if you will get any sound at the gate valve. I got what sounded like cavitation at the valve for a couple days, and it has since gone away.

I can post a pic if you'd like of my setup, just don't wanna jack your thread.

Great work so far, looking forward to the progress.

AcidRayn
03/01/2012, 05:33 PM
setup looking good!

Thanks

Tank size is a 40 breeder, it's my buddies, i had a similar setup with out the top. but that's my fingers in the pic with the drain.

can't remember the overflow dimensions, been a while, i don't have the tank anymore, i keep upgrading,downgrading, upgrading, i now have a 220 gal.

the holes were cut about 1.5 inches from the bottom of the trim if i remember correctly.

sorry for the late response.

It's all good. I figured it out. Thanks thou

nice - 02 low rider here, 1450 - drag bars - full chrome - custom paint - vance and heins exhaust - you sturgis bound this summer, i think im going again its a blast

Nice man. I also have a 57 duo glide pan head that was my dads. All original. I'll post pics when I get home. Wife rides a 05 softail deluxe, daughter rides 2001 dyna wide, son just got a 07 883 low for Xmas, basket case but we'll rebuild it together this spring get it ready for summer.
I been building them for 30 years. Love um. So much fun.

I travel for work but if I'm states sIde I'll be at sturgis
I figured some gear head would notice.

The ultra also has 700 watts of sound with jbl speakers.

AcidRayn
03/01/2012, 05:58 PM
Love reading build threads. Gonna follow yours. :)

I just got my 75g running on Sunday with the BA drains, gotta love it. I went 1.5" pvc, with a single gate valve on the siphon (same way my 50g is setup).

I'm will be curious, when you start this up, if you will get any sound at the gate valve. I got what sounded like cavitation at the valve for a couple days, and it has since gone away.

I can post a pic if you'd like of my setup, just don't wanna jack your thread.

Great work so far, looking forward to the progress.

O please jack away! Post up some pics. I went with 1 1/4" x 1" elbows in the box but going 1" pipe down to the sump with 2 - 3/4" returns with a mag 9.

Post them up I'm enjoying all the feedback. Lol. Me and active just hijacked it into a Harley thread. Lmao

jimmyj7090
03/01/2012, 08:21 PM
Nice build.

Why the second gate valve?

AcidRayn
03/01/2012, 08:52 PM
Nice build.

Why the second gate valve?

When my company orders anything we always get a spare for stock.

I put the order through the company account at Mcmaster Carr and the system automatically ordered 2. It would cost more to return in shipping then we paid for it. And we don't use them in my business , so I had it and just tossed it in. Same as the ball valve in the emergency pipe. I had it so it's there. I always been a bit valve happy.lol

jimmyj7090
03/01/2012, 09:04 PM
Haha, that works :)

Daimyo68
03/01/2012, 11:01 PM
Here's the pictures of the finished plumbing, except for tightening and adding the 1 siphon pipe bracket, and adding the 1 down pipe.

2 things:

1 - I wish I had used Black Silicone instead of the clear on the overflow (oh, and the elbows are temporary while the new, black ones are drying).

2 - The only thing I really question myself on now (unfortunately, since I can't really access it to change it all out) is where I decided to put the T on the return to supply the fuge and reactors. I should have put it before the return ball valve.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2851/dsc01787n.jpg
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4098/dsc01785f.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4509/dsc01792r.jpg

AcidRayn
03/02/2012, 01:33 PM
Here's the pictures of the finished plumbing, except for tightening and adding the 1 siphon pipe bracket, and adding the 1 down pipe.

2 things:

1 - I wish I had used Black Silicone instead of the clear on the overflow (oh, and the elbows are temporary while the new, black ones are drying).

2 - The only thing I really question myself on now (unfortunately, since I can't really access it to change it all out) is where I decided to put the T on the return to supply the fuge and reactors. I should have put it before the return ball valve.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2851/dsc01787n.jpg
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4098/dsc01785f.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4509/dsc01792r.jpg

Looks good. Do you think you'll have an algae growth problem with the clear overflow? I went with the black cuz of this fear.

Daimyo68
03/02/2012, 04:13 PM
I have a clear overflow in my 50g also, no growth at all, just the usual cleaning of the glass in there.

AcidRayn
03/02/2012, 05:40 PM
I have a clear overflow in my 50g also, no growth at all, just the usual cleaning of the glass in there.

Ahhh. Cool beans. This is my first drill n build so I only had the info I read about. Now I know for nextime, which will surely be an external beananimal

AcidRayn
03/03/2012, 02:57 PM
leak tested tank today, all is good.

***note, DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN BULKHEADS!!!!***

hand tight is fine, as per the instructions. im a believer of "torque = tighten till spins freely" no good, gaskets squished out, all is good now.

testing my $50 esshops 150s cone skimmer

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6906/007bq.jpg

99 gallons of new rubbish cans

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4957/008pd.jpg

getting ready to drain this biotch, ill post up more pics later, im sure much later, as im not even drained at 4 pm!!! aye yi yi

AcidRayn
03/03/2012, 11:01 PM
so these are the before pics

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2047/012yqx.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5739/013ooh.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/789/014fbc.jpg

man i collected alot of crap under that stand over 10 years!!! :wildone:

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9127/015wtq.jpg

what is it? found a couple of them in the sand :reading:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7161/026lw.jpg



http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1230/028cc.jpg

AcidRayn
03/03/2012, 11:02 PM
what the heck is this blue slime? was on the bottom of a couple of rocks :eek2:

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7278/025vh.jpg

couple barnacles i think that took over a torch coral skeleton

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4888/021bns.jpg

all plumbed up, ready for water in the morning :bounce1:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/714/034bvw.jpg

jbm421
03/04/2012, 02:53 AM
Looks like it could be a sponge?

Sonny408
03/04/2012, 10:59 AM
nice job!

AcidRayn
03/04/2012, 12:12 PM
Thanx. Putting it back together now

Breadman03
03/04/2012, 02:11 PM
I'm really liking the plumbing. I'm sorry to hear about the background.

jeffesaurusrex
03/04/2012, 02:30 PM
The spiral discs look like they are the trap doors that Turbo snails have. They can go inside the shell and flip that little disc around for complete coverage with their shells. Hermits can still rip them out though.

Daimyo68
03/05/2012, 07:42 AM
+1 "Trap Door" / Operculums

Turbo Snails have thick, shell-like operculums (the trapdoor that protects the snail when withdrawn into its shell). These operculums can be smooth, spiraled, or bumpy, depending on the species.

AcidRayn
03/05/2012, 01:56 PM
Ok. Cool remnant of the old cuc. My red leg hermit does sport a pretty fancy turbo shell lol.

Savage!!

AcidRayn
03/05/2012, 09:31 PM
ok, so its up and running,

can anyone use any of this mesh type stuff? i get tons of it at work, i'll mail it to you if you need a couple pieces

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2257/001vrw.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7452/002nld.jpg

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5162/003zjs.jpg

GRRRRRRRR.............

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7005/006vv.jpg

ALL BETTER

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7223/007vmt.jpg

an after shot

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3787/009yv.jpg

and here it is, a work in progress. the 2 coralias will go behind the rock once i get the closed loop up and running

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6271/010ol.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/731/011qyr.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7637/018ie.jpg

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7836/022bh.jpg

AcidRayn
03/05/2012, 09:33 PM
just the moon lights

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/147/026pjp.jpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2985/027bec.jpg

AcidRayn
03/05/2012, 09:33 PM
just the moon lights

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/147/026pjp.jpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2985/027bec.jpg

AcidRayn
03/07/2012, 07:50 PM
well, all is almost good, every fish in my tank has ich, i think, gahhhhhhhh

TheAquatard
03/07/2012, 08:40 PM
Nice tank, I did the same thing, transfer my fish to a new improved tank. All the fish passed away. They all got brook. :\ good luck

Bk2Reefin
03/08/2012, 12:08 AM
nice build,to bad bout the fish

AcidRayn
03/17/2012, 07:42 AM
nice build,to bad bout the fish

well, what ever its been 3 weeks since the tank's been up.
whatever the white flecks i seen are, were gone the next day.
they were most predominant on my hippo tang, which, always has some sort of skin issue due to the nature of the beast.
i had seen them on all the other fish, but they were all clean the next morning.

i dont think it was ich, as there have been no other syptoms, and ive been watching them very close, almost obbseive.

so, all are healthy and swimming swimming, keep on swimming......

i have a 7 line wrasse that is a great doctor, so im giving him credit for the cleanup.

as far as the build, it has exceded my expectations!! my water has never looked so polished, im sure im going to have to deal with some diatoms and brown algae due to the newness of the pvc and tank, but thats ok, were having to wipe the glass with a mag float a bit more then usual, but my CUC could use some reinforcements and im looking at a crew now.

i traded a remoraC pro skimmer for these 2 sweet puppies

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2870/006rrc.jpg

the 9.5 was too much for my sump, just not enough volume to feed the monster, so i kept the "whatever it is" mag drive in there, which has a low but nice for a refugium flow, and my skimmmer is pumpin out gunk, so im happey with it, i think its a mag 3 or 5, dont know, i plan on getting a flow meter to put in line, and that will tell me more.

im running the 9.5 right now on the closed loop, and its not enough volume to run the 2 - 3/4" returns, so one is capped right now, im going to hook up the 12 to the loop, and use the 9.5 for water changes i guess for now until i decide if im going to a bigger sump.

ahhhh this hobb......er......ah.........habit is all consuming

uncleof6
03/17/2012, 01:21 PM
well, what ever its been 3 weeks since the tank's been up.
whatever the white flecks i seen are, were gone the next day.
they were most predominant on my hippo tang, which, always has some sort of skin issue due to the nature of the beast.
i had seen them on all the other fish, but they were all clean the next morning.

i dont think it was ich, as there have been no other syptoms, and ive been watching them very close, almost obbseive.

so, all are healthy and swimming swimming, keep on swimming......

i have a 7 line wrasse that is a great doctor, so im giving him credit for the cleanup.

as far as the build, it has exceded my expectations!! my water has never looked so polished, im sure im going to have to deal with some diatoms and brown algae due to the newness of the pvc and tank, but thats ok, were having to wipe the glass with a mag float a bit more then usual, but my CUC could use some reinforcements and im looking at a crew now.

i traded a remoraC pro skimmer for these 2 sweet puppies

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2870/006rrc.jpg

the 9.5 was too much for my sump, just not enough volume to feed the monster, so i kept the "whatever it is" mag drive in there, which has a low but nice for a refugium flow, and my skimmmer is pumpin out gunk, so im happey with it, i think its a mag 3 or 5, dont know, i plan on getting a flow meter to put in line, and that will tell me more.

im running the 9.5 right now on the closed loop, and its not enough volume to run the 2 - 3/4" returns, so one is capped right now, im going to hook up the 12 to the loop, and use the 9.5 for water changes i guess for now until i decide if im going to a bigger sump.

ahhhh this hobb......er......ah.........habit is all consuming


That mag 9.5 needs 1.5" pipe on the output to get any flow out of it. Per Danner instructions. No static head on a closed loop, but the friction loss is killing you. The 12 will need the 1.5" pipe also.

AcidRayn
03/17/2012, 04:29 PM
Ok then. I have a plan