Please ID this anemone

[Shokoy]

my friend gave me an anemone and its like "lets put this and what will happen to it" inside my tank and he didnt even tell me whats the name so i can research on how to take care this anemone can anyone please help me thank you very much

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/Xavis666/IMG_1055.jpg

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/Xavis666/IMG_1054.jpg

[frnkynlop]

I'm about 90% sure that's a rock/flower pot anenome. I had a yellow one. they are nice, but for some reason mine tended to wonder alot.

[Reefmedic79]

Bubble tip, maybe a Magnificance. I'm not to sure once it opens up completely it will be easier to ID.

Lots of light and flow is what they like, but start off slow, they also like to be fed.

[Shokoy]

i just fed it 2 brine shrimps is that enough? or do i still need to feed it with other things any suggestion on what this anemone eats? and how will i make my spike cheeks to host it

[daveydoodle]

I'm not sure but it looks terrible...let's put it in my tank and see what it does! :) Great pick up, looks good!

[Shokoy]

what do you mean looks good the anemone or the pick up and what looks terrible please do tell thank you

[Reefmedic79]

I wouldn't worry about feeding it till it opens up and gets acclimated first.

Brine probably isn't sufficient, silversides, chopped shrimp, ect...

The anemone doesn't look well, IMO it looks bleached.

[kduen]

Your anemone is bleached pretty badly and I would agree that it is a bubble tip. Post in the anemone and clownfish forum for a better ID.

[Sugar Magnolia]

I'm about 90% sure that's a rock/flower pot anenome. I had a yellow one. they are nice, but for some reason mine tended to wonder alot.

Bubble tip, maybe a Magnificance. I'm not to sure once it opens up completely it will be easier to ID.

Lots of light and flow is what they like, but start off slow, they also like to be fed.

Really? It's not a rock flower and I have no idea what magnificence is.

It looks like a very bleached E. quadricolor, bubble tip anemone. Once they get to that condition it's very difficult to nurse them back to health.

Brine shrimp is the worst thing to feed it. It has no nutitional value. Thawed PE Mysis would be best, twice weekly. It needs TLC and optimum conditions.

What size tank, lighting, flow, water params?

[Toddrtrex]

IMO/E, it is an E. quadricolor -- BTA -- an extremely bleached and starving one.

What size tank?
What lights do you have?
What are your current water parameters? (( with numbers please ))
How long has the tank been set up?

I have seen them recover from states similar to this, but will need the above answers to determine its chances of recovery.


EDIT -- Adrienne got me. ;)

[Shokoy]

when he gave it to me its like this already so if you guys will put it in percentage what is the survivability of this anemone? or ill just bring it back to the owner

[Toddrtrex]

Until you answer my above questions there is no way I can give you a %.

Knowing my tanks, and experience with E. quads, I would guess 95% survivability in my tanks. (( that is not bragging, just giving you an idea that with the right conditions and time/effort it could be brought back to health -- but it is going to take some effort )).

[bnumair]

seems like a bubble tip and bleached. if ur tank is under 1 yr old and parameter not very stable it will not survive. mysis twice a week is enough to feed it with a turkey baster.

[seventhz]

I'm still rather new to the hobby but it looks like a bubble tip to me as well, and a not so happy one... how good of a friend is he? Maybe that's why he gave it to you :( Tank size and water parameters would be nice to know... how long ago did you add it to your system?

[Shokoy]

What size tank? 17 gallons with sump and skimmer
What lights do you have? my light is from Dymax 60cm T5 Lighting
What are your current water parameters? Ph 8.3,alkalinity 10 thats the test kit i have so far
water temp is playing around 28 and 29 c
How long has the tank been set up? 5 months

please help me because i dont want this anemone to die

[Shokoy]

is fresh shrimps good for anemone's?

[shifty51008]

what do you mean by fresh shrimps?

get some raw shrimp from the store non cooked and chop it up and feed it that.

you will need to know your other tests though, nitrate, p04, alk, mag, cal, ammonia.

[Shokoy]

@shifty thats what i mean raw uncooked shrimp small enough to fit into his mouth btw i think my LFS doesnt know that anemone can eat small fish and shrimps they are selling me this invert something and the brand is kent will it do its job as hand feeding does?

[shifty51008]

I am not sure about the kent product but I would stick to meaty foods for an anemone.

if it is the kent product i am thinking then that is just a mix of phyto and zoaplankton and will not do much for an anemone but filter feeders will like it.

[Shokoy]

oh ok so raw shrimps are good or not so good food to give to anemone's?

[shifty51008]

raw shrimp is what i have been feeding mine for a year now and no problems.

[Shokoy]

oh ok thank you for your good info's ^^ but i think this anemone is dying and i want to save it any good advice? or do i need to get a much stronger lightings

[Sugar Magnolia]

How many watts of T5 do you have over the tank?

BTW, if you are going to feed it raw shrimp, be sure to chop it very, very small so it's easier for the anemone to digest. Thawed PE mysis is also a good choice as they are very nutritious.

[shifty51008]

other than having good lighting, good parameters, and decent flow he should recover just fine.

the main thing you need 1st is your testing

[Shokoy]

oh ok thank you very much guys uhm its a x2 T5 150watts lights if im not mistaken

[shifty51008]

actually 2 T5's at 60cm is only 48 watts but on a 17 gal. you should be ok.

[Shokoy]

i know i bought the t5's bulbs on a hardware store near my house and custom made the mounting, is it ok if i dont have the actinic (if i spelled it correctly) bulbs?

[Shokoy]

the name of the food my LFS sold is Kent MicroVert and i dunno i this will do to my anemone or not and my anemone looks like its dying xD

[Toddrtrex]

Does your light fixture have individual reflectors? That is the main reasons T5's work so well over our tanks.

[Shokoy]

yup they have individual reflector i put a chrome plated bended aluminum for maximum reflection

[Shokoy]

ok so i gave the anemone a raw shrimp and after 24hrs it opened up is it a good sign or a bad sign? pleae help me

[Sugar Magnolia]

As long as it's open and inflated all is well.

[Shokoy]

is it ok to feed it everyday with raw shrimps?

[shifty51008]

i would suggest every other day for a couple weeks till it get's it strength back

[Shokoy]

oh ok thats what im thinking another question shifty is the blue light really necessary for corals and anemone's?

[shifty51008]

the blue light is more for your eyes than the corals

[Shokoy]

so the white one is more important than the blue one

[shifty51008]

yes, the white one will be more for corals. there still is good spectrum in the blue bulbs for corals, just not as much as 65-10k bulbs (the white bulbs)

so if you want growth from corals stick with 65-10k bulbs, and if you want color from the corals move to the more blue bulbs 14-20k. that is where it is nice with T5's, you can add more bulbs to get the bulbs that corals like to grow and others to make the color pop.

[njudson]

I would be careful feeding that Kent food in such a young tank. that could add lots of nutrients. I'd save it for a few months atleast

[Shokoy]

ok so heres an update on the anemone and from the first picture it seems its a bit the same to my eye but i dont know from your point of view

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/Xavis666/IMG_1063.jpg

[fishquaria]

The Anemone is likely a bubble tip anemone, however it looks severely bleached. If you are interested in trying to save it you'll need to provide it with excellent reef quality water conditions, a moderate current and intense lighting for 12 hours per day. It is also very important to feed it every other day or even daily if it accepts. Raw shrimp, sea fish or squid is ideal. Feed pieces that are sized a little smaller than the mouth of the anemone.

Please note that it is absolutely essential to have excellent water quality in a stable, mature (ie at least 8 months to a year old) system. Best not to have other cnidarians in the system as allelopathy might really take its toll on this already stressed specimen.

Despite all attempts however, be informed that some anemones will never recover.

[Shokoy]

mr shifty i ditched my old lighting because the aluminum lighting is getting really hot literally hot and i went out and invest to this light Dymax Rex Series PL and the bulb is a PL not a t5 with an output of 55watts and i dont know if this is sufficient or not if not i might go and buy another one for the sake of having my corals happy
if ever anyone can help me thank you very much

[shifty51008]

if you have the extra funds then an extra one may be good, but start with 1 for now. 55 watts of pc should be ok on a 17 gal.

as stated, your water quality must stay good with an anemone and stay stable.

from the pic. it does look like it can recover well given good water quality and lighting. the base looks good so thats a good sign.

have you gotten test kits yet? the ones you will want will be ammonia, nitrate, alk, mag, cal. temp., salinity (prefer refractometer) also stick with liquid test kits and not the strips.

[Shokoy]

ok i borrowed a test kit from a friend and here is the result if i am correct and based on the color codes
Ammonium is near 0
Nitrite is near 0
Nitrate is .9
Magnesium 1300 - 1400
Salinity 1.22 - 1.23 (i only have hydrometer refract is really expensive in my country)
Temp is constant 28.x
please tell me if my water is bad or good thank you very much
and mr shifty theres a change in my anemone its tentacles are starting to bubble up and its inflating and i gave it a raw shrimp today and it rejected it i dont know why maybe its full or maybe its getting its strength back anyway i tried again after a few minutes and it ate it like a hungry dog xD please give me another feedback about my anemone thank you very much

[shifty51008]

your test numbers look good, the only thing i would change is to raise your salinity up to around 1.025 over the course or a couple days.

that is a good sign that your anemone is inflating, keep doing what you have been and it should be fine, just take things slow.

good job otherwise.

[Shokoy]

thank you very much the only problem now is the color of this anemone is it hard to make it return to its original color?

[shifty51008]

The color will come back, but it will take a while, i had one that took 2 months to get back to full color

[Shokoy]

oh ok thank you very much shifty for you help and time ^^ i wish you all the good luck and god bless

[shifty51008]

thankyou and I also wish you good luck, keep us updated

on a side note it looks like it will be a rose bubble tip anemone (RBTA) you can see a little red around the outside tenticles. if it is, very nice.

[Shokoy]

the tip of the tentacles are pink and some at the side of it and like i said the tentacles are starting to look like a light bulb
anyway i fed it 2 times this day and it accepted it but i tried it for the 3rd and it just let the food float away
and the pink is starting to become a bit red and everytime i open the light it inflates and move with the water does this mean
that this anemone is now a bit happy?

mr shifty
to be honest i didnt acclimate this anemone when my friend gave it to me it looks like its gonna die so i didnt care at first
but it changed anyway if his happy im happy hehehe thank you again shifty

[shifty51008]

well from the sound of everything, I would be on the side that the anemone is feeling comfortable in your tank.