blue agave

[drtrash]

Looking for some feedback on how difficult these palys are to keep. Have not had good luck.

[howze01]

How many polyps have you been getting on a frag? Have you tried feeding them?

[KeiferTheReefer]

I pruchased a 2 polyp frag about 2 months ago, and they have since grown 3 more! I do a 15% water change every week, and dose for calcium and alk. I also feed frozen mysis, a high grade pellet food, cyclopeeze, and AquaVitro's Reef Fuel. Other than this, I can't think of anything else that I can accredit their growth to.

HTH

Keith

[Friday Night]

I still have a hard time believing that zoas actually eat pellet or frozen food

If anyone has pictures or proof I would like to see

Thanks.

Not to derail OP thread but thier fairly easy to keep just like another zoa

I don't find some being "fast growers" and other "slow"

Its determined by one's water parameters

Not by "name or strain"

[howze01]

Aren't Blue Agaves a Paly, not a zoa? I haven't had my zoas eating but my palys sure do.

[faceman]

not 100% sure but the blue agaves are PE and all PE are zoas.

[faceman]

ive kept blue agaves in acceptable (lol) water with moderate to high flow under t5's in my frag tank. my concern with all my z's/p's is maintaining my alk and having enough flow to keep detritus out of the crevices.

[howze01]

not 100% sure but the blue agaves are PE and all PE are zoas.

That's even more confusing! I would have said PE's are Palys. The polyps seem to be too big to me for them to be zoas. I have had PE and they have eaten.

[faceman]

That's even more confusing! I would have said PE's are Palys. The polyps seem to be too big to me for them to be zoas. I have had PE and they have eaten.


again... not 100% sure, lol. but PE are in the class of zoanthids. i think they fall under a different term but still under zoanthids. they are basically a bigger type of zoanthid. for example, the palythoa gradis. its a paly but in a different classification or something like that.

[SushiGirl]

I have some large orange zoas that will eat mysis like my palys do. Next time I feed I'll feed one & snap a pic. I also had some large pink ones that ate, but I lost those.

[cloak]

Aren't Blue Agaves a Paly, not a zoa? I haven't had my zoas eating but my palys sure do.

+1.

I would like to see a zoa do it... (picture/video)

I don't want to see no "caught up $h!t" though...

[SushiGirl]

Best I could do with the camera phone. Boyfriend took the real camera to the races.

All 3 of these zoas are in various stages of eating a piece of mysis.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7176/7075058511_c59800f692_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6928980578_bd937bd77b_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7249/6928980502_03e8a07d31_z.jpg

[howze01]

Those look like Palys to me too.....

These things can be so confusing!!!!!

[HiImSean]

i got a single blue agave in january. its grown a lot but hasn't sprouted any other heads yet, its prolly the largest polyp (besides my PPE) in my tank. its a beautiful polyp for sure. mine's under a par38 bulb and i think it looks best under higher light

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r152/HiInSean/fish/Picture087.jpg

[KeiferTheReefer]

I still have a hard time believing that zoas actually eat pellet or frozen food

If anyone has pictures or proof I would like to see

Thanks.

Not to derail OP thread but thier fairly easy to keep just like another zoa

I don't find some being "fast growers" and other "slow"

Its determined by one's water parameters

Not by "name or strain"

I would have to disagree with most everything in this statement! Most of my larger polyps (including the Agaves) have all been seen munching on mysis and the occasional pellet! I would take some photos next time, but SucshiGirl already provided some. As far as some being faster growers than others,this is absolutely true! I am strictly talking polyp count, and some of my zoas multiply 5-10 times as fast as others. For example, the Radioactive Dragon Eyes in my system have added roughly 100 new polyps in the last 4 months, whereas many others have only added 10 20 polyps on the same time frame. These were all purchased at the same time and have been in the same system since! Other than the Dragon eyes having roughly 5 -10 heads more than the others starting out, all conditions were pretty much the same (lighting, flow).

I do agree though that they are fairly easy to keep like MOST other zoas!

[SushiGirl]

Those look like Palys to me too.....

These things can be so confusing!!!!!

What makes them look like palys? My known palys are more tube shaped, with mouths down inside rather than on top, plus the difference in the "stems" of them (palys with speckles in them). These look exactly like the rest of my zoas of various sizes. The one in the back had food in its mouth & in the mouth of the watermelon behind it, I just couldn't get the phone to focus on the small one. The larger one won that food battle.

[johnny]

My blue agaves are some of my favs, but do grow slower than most of my others. I have some under t5 and some under MH, they both grow slow, but the MH ones have a nicer "speckling" to them.

[JBsmurf85]

Hopefully this will help:

micro zoanthids- the smallest of the smallest zoanthids

Zoanthids- as the title states they are zoanthids but to give a size reference they are items such as your hornets, fire and ice, yellow jackets and so on.

Palys- AKA Zoanthus Gigantus Things that fall into this group are most PE ( People Eaters) magicians, blue agave, rainbow palys, pink hippos, and so on

Protopalys- reference for this type, Nuke Greens, Purple Death, Captian America, Mind Blowing

I hope this clears up some of the difference in why some are called zoas, others palys, and proto palys.

Often times the protopalys and palys get mixed up but if you put a nuke green next to a magician you can see the obvious difference in appearance

[xcorallusx]

most of my palys and people eaters will catch and eat food in my tank, I feed a lot of flakes, pellet and frozen mixture, my ding dangs were eating flakes, they have doubled in a month I think it is from the feeding.

[Reefmaster08]

Those look nice!

[drtrash]

new addition, led's not soing me any favors when it comes to the varied yet sutle color
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac56/drtrash_photo/2.jpg

[GeorgeMonnatJr]

I followed this thread to learn without comment, because I don't know jack. I was just reading Julian Sprung's book, Invertebrates: A Quick Reference Guide (http://www.amazon.com/Invertebrates-Quick-Reference-Oceanographic-Series/dp/1883693004), and noticed these quotes. (any typos are probably mine)



Palythoa

Common Name: False Coral, Colonial Anemones

Description: Anemone-like polyps imbedded in a common tissue (coenenchyme) that is slimy but with a sand-paper-like texture due to entrapped sand grains.




Palythoa (formerly known as Protopalythoa)

Common Name: Button Polyps, Zoanthids, False Coral, Colonial Anemones

Description: Colonies consisting of clusters of separate anemone-like polyps connected at their point of attachment with the substrate, but not imbedded in a common tissue.

Similar: Zoanthus spp. are not usually slimy, don't trap sand grains, and have blunter tentacles.


So it looks like a square/rectangle deal where all zoas are palys, and only some palys are zoas. Whoever said that above is the winner! :D

[howze01]

What makes them look like palys? My known palys are more tube shaped, with mouths down inside rather than on top, plus the difference in the "stems" of them (palys with speckles in them). These look exactly like the rest of my zoas of various sizes. The one in the back had food in its mouth & in the mouth of the watermelon behind it, I just couldn't get the phone to focus on the small one. The larger one won that food battle.

I guess I should say that I'm certainly no expert at this. They just look like Palys I have. The thick, blunt tentacles make it look like a Paly to me. It is possible, probably even likely, that I'm wrong. Just going by what it looks like to me. Not much science involved in it....

[Joshporksandwic]

Paly or zoa they are slow growers. I have some on 2 separate tanks both have only grown about 1 poly a month. Feeding them doesn't make a difference on my tank as I feed daily and growth is different on all zoas or palys.

[engineeronh2o]

I have decent growth, currently up to one mini colony and a 3 polyp frag and a single polyp frag. Absolutely a MUST HAVE!

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq174/scarolinaguy20/IMG_2870.jpg

[rogerwilco357]

Sushi girl you rock love your pics what phone?

[ZoaRific]

I have decent growth, currently up to one mini colony and a 3 polyp frag and a single polyp frag. Absolutely a MUST HAVE!

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq174/scarolinaguy20/IMG_2870.jpg

Real awesome! :thumbsup:

[SushiGirl]

Roger, it's a Samsung Galaxy S.

[oupulino]

I having hard time to find nice blue and big polyps paly.Which of them having real nice blue color under 15000K usually the guys taking pictures under actinic and they look blue when you bring home they are not even close to that color
Any recommendation of name or same pictures are welcome

[Friday Night]

OMG IT'S THE BLUE AGAVE!
I nearly soiled myself.