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tada1096
04/18/2012, 05:00 PM
do most people but something under the sand like eggcrate or do you just pore the sand right onto the tank and let the rocks sit ontop? just wondering what most people do?

husslr187
04/18/2012, 05:14 PM
from what i've read most people lay somethind down to stabilize the rock and to protect the glass from fallen rock. i sure wouldn't want a ton of water on my floor and eggcrate is cheap so why not

kingevil
04/18/2012, 05:16 PM
eggcrate.

MaxxedMan
04/18/2012, 05:32 PM
I put down about an 1/8" of sand, put the rock on that (probably touching the glass in a few places), then added 2" of sand around the rock. Nothing is going to dig under the rock to cause it to fall, if it does fall its onto 2" of sand, and not the bottom glass.

I guess I could see if the rock snags the eggcrate right it might not be as likely to slide, but I don't think mine is likely to move anyway.

thegrun
04/18/2012, 06:57 PM
I use egg crate on all my tanks (no bare bottom tanks for me at this time) to help stabilize the rock. After aquascaping, I then add sand which further helps lock in the rock. If you place the rock on top of the sand, it will eventually shift under the weight of the rock and/or you bumping into the rock during cleaning and fragging.

sibesforlife
04/18/2012, 07:10 PM
Just sand on glass.

Typo R
04/18/2012, 09:07 PM
Just sand here too.

Mel 2038
04/18/2012, 09:15 PM
eggcrate to help stabilize and to protect glass. cheap help and protection

calveezzzy
04/18/2012, 09:54 PM
Where can I buy eggcrate locally in SoCal?

kingevil
04/18/2012, 10:01 PM
The home depot

calveezzzy
04/18/2012, 10:14 PM
What section is it in? LOL wow..out of all the places I tried to look, I totally miss the obvious!

drew2007
04/18/2012, 10:18 PM
I put my rock in first then added sand.

kingevil
04/18/2012, 10:25 PM
What section is it in? LOL wow..out of all the places I tried to look, I totally miss the obvious!

Check the lighting section

Hal
04/19/2012, 10:38 AM
Eggcrate, then 4 inches of sand, then rock. I'm too cheap to bury rock under the sand as a support. The way my diamond goby digs I may regret that. Regardless, the eggcrate will prevent any rockslide from cracking the bottom of my tank.

billdogg
04/19/2012, 10:47 AM
In my 60g cube, it is just a sand bottom. In my 150, I have eggcrate , then just enough sand to cover it. The reason is because I have a 4' moray who likes to move things around and I don't really want to come home to a REALLY PO'd wife!

softieatheart
04/19/2012, 10:56 AM
I have a DSB with a plenum under it.

albano
04/19/2012, 11:01 AM
I put my rock in first then added sand.
+1...but even better is to keep rockwork raised above the sandbed (I used acrylic rods, drilled into rock)...
IMO...eggcrate is a bad idea

kingevil
04/19/2012, 11:11 AM
IMO...eggcrate is a bad idea

oh, please do explain.

aleonn
04/19/2012, 11:20 AM
I put eggcrate, then PVC rock supports, then rocks, then sand. The eggcrate helps distribute rock weight and minimizes impact from rock slides from a possible earthquake (Socal resident).

albano
04/19/2012, 11:31 AM
oh, please do explain.
Use of eggcrate prevents some sand sifters from doing their job!

I put eggcrate, then PVC rock supports, then rocks, then sand. The eggcrate helps distribute rock weight and minimizes impact from rock slides from a possible earthquake (Socal resident).
I don't have any experience with earthquakes...sounds like it might help, but still same problem as mentioned above.
BTW...in an earthquake 'rockslide'...what protects the 4 glass sides?

Humuhumunuku
04/19/2012, 11:38 AM
I just assume, in the event of a decent quake, my tank is screwed.

kingevil
04/19/2012, 11:43 AM
Use of eggcrate prevents some sand sifters from doing their job!

yes good point!

MaxxedMan
04/19/2012, 12:08 PM
Eggcrate, then 4 inches of sand, then rock. I'm too cheap to bury rock under the sand as a support. The way my diamond goby digs I may regret that. Regardless, the eggcrate will prevent any rockslide from cracking the bottom of my tank.

That's what the very cheap base rock is for :)

I had a maroon clown that loved to dig himself a den. My rocks were on 4" of sand. It was hell. The entire structure would collapse, I'd fix it, he'd do it again. I went to the bottom this time, too much of a pain otherwise.

Rocks on the bottom of the glass have no where to fall to. Rock slides from higher rocks should land on your sand and not the glass, and they are falling in water. Has anyone experienced a bottom breaking rockslide personally?

bnumair
04/19/2012, 01:39 PM
direct sand and rock on glass