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64Ivy
07/18/2012, 06:49 AM
I received a terminal male Rhomboid yesterday, which I noticed upon acclimation, was whirling about in the current like the blades of a room fan. Thought it was dead at first and was being blown around by a powerhead but, as of this morning, it was still alive. And while not spinning quite as much [even eating a couple Selcon soaked mysis] it is still very far from swimming normally. I've seen swim bladder issues before but nothing quite like this. Is there anything I can do other than wait this out?

Kahuna Tuna
07/18/2012, 08:27 AM
That does sound like a swim bladder issue, is the fish in QT?

64Ivy
07/18/2012, 08:45 AM
That does sound like a swim bladder issue, is the fish in QT?

Oh yes.

evolved
07/18/2012, 10:13 AM
Unfortunately, that's most definitely a swim bladder issue.

For some reason, this has been a common theme with rhomboid's as of late. Surely it's in some shape or form related to collection, but no one is quite sure. You might find this worth a read: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2183518&highlight=rhomboid

snorvich
07/18/2012, 02:23 PM
+1 with the above

brannock_16
07/18/2012, 02:42 PM
+1 to above posters. It's definitely one of my top 5 fish but I will not be trying another for a few years due to collection and decompression issues.

reefjunkie42
07/18/2012, 02:50 PM
swim bladder for sure

64Ivy
07/19/2012, 06:11 AM
Day three: Still alive, constantly drifting about the QT tank as if newly dead though. Does this condition ever correct itself? Is there anything I can do?

evolved
07/19/2012, 09:25 AM
Day three: Still alive, constantly drifting about the QT tank as if newly dead though. Does this condition ever correct itself? Is there anything I can do?
The thread I linked you to discusses some treatment options. That being said, I've never known of a wrasse to completely recover from a swim bladder issue once it's set in. Most people euthanize after a few days with lack of improvement; sorry.

64Ivy
07/19/2012, 10:38 AM
I have begun treating with erythromycin just in case there are infection issues involved but have never attempted to manually release any air that may be trapped within the swim bladder. Any link on how to perform this?

suta4242
07/20/2012, 03:14 AM
If he is eating I would try gut loading live brine for an hour with a strong antibiotic solution. This worked for me with a very bloated angel.

But if its not a swimbladder infection and its actually because he was brought up too fast, then I don't think there's much hope. Sorry.

reefjunkie42
07/21/2012, 01:44 AM
there is avideo of an asian man popping the bladder. it was posted on RB some mos back.

solitude127
07/21/2012, 07:41 PM
Does popping the bladder cure the infection?

Kahuna Tuna
07/22/2012, 11:37 AM
Pinning the swim bladder does not cure the infection and indeed may introduce infection but when it's inflamed it may be nessesary. Never done it myself but I know folks who have and its one of those things that is pretty much a last resort if the fish is already having swim bladder issues. I know you use a hypodermic needle to pin the swim bladder and relieve gas pressure. These fish are very tough and I had a Labout's recover from a terrible infection like this but it is a long shot I'm afraid. The antibiotic can't hurt at this point and I wish you luck with this fish, keeping my foingers crossed.

64Ivy
07/23/2012, 06:43 AM
It didn't make it, fortunately. I think I'll wait until someone begins collecting Rhomboids either from a different location or via different methods. Even with the antibiotics, it was torture watching helplessly as this fish suffered like that.