ID this Anemone Please

[SSLVRNBLK]

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-10-25_23-06-56_227.jpg
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-10-25_23-07-00_902.jpg

[D-Nak]

I would guess a bleached gigantea.

[OrionN]

No guess. It is a bleached, but not completely bleached, S. gigantea. It seem to be healthy otherwise (if it continue to look like that thought out the day and not deflate).

Good luck with this anemone. It should do well if you provide it with good environment which is a lot of light and current and great clean water condition. IMO, optimal flow can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X610E8tSQ_o&feature=channel&list=UL

[SSLVRNBLK]

When I bought this it was completely bleached and would not eat shrimp at all wasn't sticky.. Now as you can see it is getting color, is sticky, and eating shrimp now!! :) How long will it take to get its color back?

[SSLVRNBLK]

Oh yea and He has never deflated not even once since Ive had him.. All my other anemones do but he has not.. The way you see him in the pictures is how he always is..

[BonsaiNut]

Doesn't look like there is enough light in the tank for him. When I see mushrooms and palys high on the rocks - that is a low light tank.

[OrionN]

From the look of your tank, It look like you need a bit more water change and likely more nutrient export mechanism.

It should take 2-3 weeks from this point until he recovered from bleaching if you give him optimal condition. If not enough light he will not recover from bleaching. Look at my video and see if have enough flow on him. These anemones are difficult to get healthy, and difficult to keep long term. Good luck with him. You are lucky to get one that did not succumb to infection right off the bat.

How much light do you have him under? How long have you had him?

[OrionN]

Doesn't look like there is enough light in the tank for him. When I see mushrooms and palys high on the rocks - that is a low light tank.
I agree. That Red mushroom fully extended at the same level at the Gigantea is not a good sign for the long term health of this very light intensive requiring anemone (like right under the 250 W DE MH).

[SSLVRNBLK]

I agree. That Red mushroom fully extended at the same level at the Gigantea is not a good sign for the long term health of this very light intensive requiring anemone (like right under the 250 W DE MH).
I purchased this Carpet on 9-28-2012 and was at the bottom of the tank until I added my live rock which was on 10-13-2012 at which point I put him where you find in the pictures he didn't move there.. Since he has been that close to the light source I have seen the color you see him gaining and has begun to eat as I stated.. I have two 1400 gph ph but they were just too much for my 75 gallon so I took them out and have a koralia 450 I know it isnt enough flow per but trust me the 1400 gph was way to powerful.. As for lighting I have 4 T5 54 Watts lights two are 12000 k and 1- Purple and 1- Actinic.. Of course blue lights also.. Tell me your thoughts On what I should do? As for my nutrients 5.0 Nitrates and Phosphate .25 I do run a 30 gallon Refugium and a protein skimmer.. Was having a cyano problem but I have seen it declining lately and Phosphate was at 2.0 at that time.. Please let me know what you think... Thanks

[OrionN]

I have two of the Koralia 4 which is the 1400 gph PH in my 65 gal tank. You should use the 1400 gph pump for the 75 g tank. Believe me it is not too much for these anemones or SPS if you know ho to use these optimally.

This is how I would arrange it. Place the PH on both end of the aquarium point pu to the middle. The water flow would meet each other at about the middle of the tank and your anemone should be around there under where the current meet. This would provide ideal circulation for Gigantea or Magnifica. In the picture below, you get the idea. Your anemone would do well with this type of circulation. Keep the middle of the rank relatively free of rock or corals to help improve the circulation for the anemone. The picture below show the tank with the magnifica, but Gigantea would do well there also. You can see how much current my Gigantea get looking at video I posted earlier. For these anemones, there is so much current in the tank that fine sand will get blown all over the place. I have to put a layer of shell on top to keep the sand stay in place.

FTS 65g tank setup with H. magnifica.

http://home.grandecom.net/~mnguyen/65GFTS20110131.jpg

[SSLVRNBLK]

What about my lighting?

[OrionN]

Excepts when I was very new 25 years or so ago, I have always use MH light. T5 is a lit better than the old VHO tubes, mainly due to the small bulbs which can be fitted with great reflectors and get all the light generated down to the aquarium.
T5 bulbs need to be change frequently. Older T5 light bulbs put out much less light than the new ones. Good individual reflector for each bulb really help, it at least double the amount of light by direct everything down to the water.

Not using it, I am not familiar with the terminology. Does it mean that you have the total of 212 W of T5 lights on the tank? For new bulbs, MH and T5 likely have about the same efficiency Most of the DE HM have great reflectors while not all T5 set up have good reflectors.

If you have total of 4X54 W (total of 212 Watts) on the tank and good reflectors, and diligently change you bulbs, you likely have enough light. However, that red mushroom you have in the tank will deflated and wilt under this amount of light. This cause me to think your light is too weak.

Read this post by phender one of the Anemone Guru here regarding his experience with CF light with Gigantea. Hist post is the first post on the 2nd page of this thread linked (page 2) below

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2205915&page=2

[SSLVRNBLK]

Excepts when I was very new 25 years or so ago, I have always use MH light. T5 is a lit better than the old VHO tubes, mainly due to the small bulbs which can be fitted with great reflectors and get all the light generated down to the aquarium.
T5 bulbs need to be change frequently. Older T5 light bulbs put out much less light than the new ones. Good individual reflector for each bulb really help, it at least double the amount of light by direct everything down to the water.

Not using it, I am not familiar with the terminology. Does it mean that you have the total of 212 W of T5 lights on the tank? For new bulbs, MH and T5 likely have about the same efficiency Most of the DE HM have great reflectors while not all T5 set up have good reflectors.

If you have total of 4X54 W (total of 212 Watts) on the tank and good reflectors, and diligently change you bulbs, you likely have enough light. However, that red mushroom you have in the tank will deflated and wilt under this amount of light. This cause me to think your light is too weak.

Read this post by phender one of the Anemone Guru here regarding his experience with CF light with Gigantea. Hist post is the first post on the 2nd page of this thread linked (page 2) below

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2205915&page=2
Look at my other anemones in the tank I dont by the mushroom story I've seen mushrooms expand VERY large under MH and not shrink... Let me know what the pictures tell you?
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-10-26_20-21-36_214.jpg
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-10-26_20-12-45_587.jpg
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-10-26_20-12-39_674.jpg
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-10-26_20-21-41_367-1.jpg

[OrionN]

BTA and codydactus are low light anemone. BTA routinely hid under bright light for me. I got a BTA anemone that is doing great in the 65 g tank above that is hiding right next to the overflow, on the back wall away from my 250 W MH (in the tank pictured above)
I have the same red mushroom as you have and they are doing well in the shade. The toadstool (or leatherright next to the Condy) you have also is a low light coral.

S. gigantea and H. magnifica requires highest light of the host anemones. Maybe it will do OK under your light if you keep up the bulb change and have individual reflector for your T5 bulbs

[SSLVRNBLK]

So should I add two more T5 bulbs? So will this Clam not do well either?
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-10-26_21-01-49_333.jpg
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-10-26_21-02-05_667.jpg

[OrionN]

Add more light if you can. The main thing is having good light fixture and diligently change your light bulbs when need.

One cannot provide too much light for Magnifica or Gigantea because they take full daylight at very near the surface of the water in the wild. It seem to me, the more light I provide (within reason) the happier they are. Of course I don't put 1000W light bulb over my small aquarium.

Good luck with him. Keep us update

[a2VR6]

that clam needs more light too

[ct_vol]

I have attempted 2 gigs... Both came in unhealthy... I'd rather get a bleached one like yours that has a chance of making it than the ones that immediately start deflating and gaping... Bust of luck to you!!! :)

Oh, and I agree with everyone else, more light and keep high! :D

[shifty51008]

what brand/fixture light do you have? also as for flow I have 2 tunze's that put 1800gph in my 75 gal. and still wouldn't mind a little more, alot depends on placement.

[SSLVRNBLK]

what brand/fixture light do you have? also as for flow I have 2 tunze's that put 1800gph in my 75 gal. and still wouldn't mind a little more, alot depends on placement.
I have wavepoint light fixture.. I will try again with the two PH I have..

[SSLVRNBLK]

Here is an update on my gigantea.. Let me know what you think?
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-11-30_20-04-42_509.jpg
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-11-30_20-04-38_35.jpg

[james1990]

i would guess a bleached gigantea.

+1

[SSLVRNBLK]

Did you see the first picture of it?

[OrionN]

At least 6 weeks in your tank, it is hanging in there. I climb the wall of the aquarium to get to more light and circulation. It should look close to my Gigantea if it is doing well.

I do not think that it will do well long term in your tank. You are very lucky that you got a healthy anemone, but unless you provide better car for it, it won't live. Good luck with him. Here are a few pictures of my Gigantea from new to current

New (7/27/2012)
http://home.grandecom.net/~mnguyen/PurGigan20120727.01.jpg

about 2 months (10/7/2012)
http://home.grandecom.net/~mnguyen/PurGigan2012100701.jpg

4 months (11/18/2012)
http://home.grandecom.net/~mnguyen/PurGigan2012111801.jpg

[SSLVRNBLK]

Your is very nice... When I first got it, it wouldn't eat now it eats shrimp and mysis shrimp.. He is very sticky to the touch.. So I kinda disagree with what you have said.. But we will see..

[rssjsb]

What is it that you disagree with?

You're already two steps ahead of most people who try to keep these anemones because it looks like you've found one that hasn't been too badly damaged in collection and shipping. That's the first hurdle. Now it's regained some color and is eating. Both of these things are good, but you can't stop there. If you want this animal to do well for you long-term, believe OrionN when he tells you that you need to upgrade both lighting and flow.

You need more lighting. Your anemone has regained some of its xooanthellae, which is good. But you've basically got 108 watts of lighting in a spectrum that is useful for the anemone. Your actinics and blue spectrum lights are not contributing much to the anemone's photosynthesis.

You also need more flow. Ideally, the flow should be at least enough to be constantly ruffling the edges of the anemone.

That's why it's climbing up the side of your tank instead of nestling into your rockwork and expanding outward like a healthy gig will do.

[SSLVRNBLK]

Thats some good info... What do you recommend I do as far as lighting is concerned? As for flow i have two 1440 gph power heads but i felt they were too powerful? What do you think I should do? He was on the rock right below him now for all the time i've had him.. He just moved up the wall three days ago...

[D-Nak]

Gigs can tolerate and actually like a lot of light. Typically they can be found in only a few feet of water. In other words, you probably can't give them too much light. I recommend the equivalent of a 250 watt halide. My gig used to sit right underneath a 250 watt 14k bulb, but also likes the Radion LED I have now.

In terms of flow, as others mentioned, they like strong but indirect flow. In your case, you can use both powerheads and face them towards the walls of your tank so the flow bounces off and hits the anemone from multiple angles.

Ideally, you want the gig to remain on the rock structure so the entire oral disk faces the surface. However, I wouldn't try to move yours since it's still acclimating, and if you choose to try to move it later, be very careful not to tear the foot by applying too much pressure as you try to remove it from the overflow.

[SSLVRNBLK]

Thank you

[SSLVRNBLK]

Let me know what you think.. Look like it is getting better.. Not sure what natural color it should be? Was very bleached.. Look at first posted photos and let me know what you think.. Thanks
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/SSLVRNBLK/2012-12-15_23-32-00_563_zpsd449b19b.jpg

[OrionN]

I think it is getting better and recovered from being bleached but not as healthy as it can be. If you can provide more light, it would do much better.
Good luck with him.