Official Nominations for CTARS BOD

[erbgo]

Well it is that time of year. Time to nominate Board of directors for the 2013 year. I would like to leave the nominations open for the month of November, with the vote happening the first two weeks of December. We will announce the new board at the December Meeting, with the elected Board of Directors taking over Jan 1,2013.
So let this be the official nomination thread. Remember you must be a current member (paid membership thru 2012) to nominate anyone. The nominated must also be a current member.

[frankyrivera]

Who are the bod now and what are the new choices lol

[sdheath]

Who are the bod now and what are the new choices lol

The current board is:
Eric Boucher - President
James Horne - VP
Charlene Atkins - Secretary
Rich Bouvier- Treasurer, and my personal hero

[frankyrivera]

Oh that gang...lol there's a good bunch. Keep them all I got no beef. Good luck guys and gals

[hans1976]

You should also check with the person you are nominating to be sure they understand the job responsibilities and are willing to do the job.

Are the current Board Members willing to stay in their current roles?

[BlueChip]

What are the roles and responsibilities for each position?

( i think i am up to date on my dues.. i due my dues in jan??, its calender year right?)

[hans1976]

The Roles and Responsibilities are in the ByLaws...

Section 2: Duties of the Officers
Paragraph 1: President Shall

1: Attend all regular monthly and special membership meetings of CTARS
2: Preside at the regular monthly membership meetings of CTARS and
at other special meetings of CTARS
3: Call the board of Directors together and presides at the meeting
4: Appoint the chair of all standing committees subject to the approval of the Board of Directors
5: Appoint all special committees.
6: Be ex-officio member of all committees.
7: Call special meetings when necessary

Paragraph 2: Vice President Shall
1: Attend all regular monthly and special membership meetings of CTARS
2: Perform the duties of the president during any absence of the president and
be ex-officio member of all committees.
3; Become President should the President Leave CTARS
4: The vice president shall have the power to appoint no more than two (2)
CTARS members, which are in good standing, to assist with the membership
application process. President shall announce to the Board of Directors those two regular
Members of CTARS he/she wishes to assist in the membership application
process prior to the next regular meeting

Paragraph 3: Treasurer:
1: Attend all regular monthly and special membership meetings of CTARS
1. Is custodian of all funds and securities of CTARS and as such takes adequate
precautions To safeguard them

2. Keeps a regular book of accounts of the funds and securities
3. Dispense money for the payment of bills and current expenses of CTARS as
Authorized by the board of directors and keep the same as part of the treasurer’s records
4 Report upon all the financial transactions of CTARS when called upon to do so either at
the regular monthly membership meetings, or at anytime requested by the current board
of directors

5. Makes the book of accounts available for inspection by any audit, committee appointed
By the president, makes the book of accounts of CTARS avail for inspection by any
member Of CTARS at the regularly monthly meetings

6. Receives all dues, raffle monies, auction monies or any other funds that are collected
during The regular monthly meeting, or any event that is in which CTARS may be
participating in as Directed by the President or the Board of Directors.

7. Prepares all regulatory and tax filings as required under federal and state statues
Paragraph 4: Secretary
1: Attend all regular monthly and special membership meetings of CTARS and to record the
date, time and place of all proceedings
2: Be the Custodian of all documents of CTARS, other than those pertaining to the other officers
of CTARS
3: Countersign as secretary of CTARS all instruments, papers, and documents when asked to do
so by the board of directors
4: Keep all minutes available for the inspection of the board of directors at any of their regular
business meetings and likewise avail for the inspection of the members of CTARS at every
regular monthly membership meeting

5: submit a copy of the minutes of each meeting to the Public Relations officer, These minutes
will be made available be to all members, upon approval by the officers and directors of the club

Paragraph 5: Public Relations Officer
1. maintains relationships with sponsors

2 .Manage communications to the community through newsletters, CTARS website,
Mailings or other means

3. Develops relationships with other marine aquarium societies

[ClemQuat]

Are the current Board Members willing to stay in their current roles?

Due to some pretty extreme changes in my life, I no longer have the time to give the club what it deserves from a V.P.

With that said, no, I will not be running for a board position in 2013.

[charleneatkins]

I will not be available for the secretary posiition.

[icycoral]

I would be interested in running for VP this year :wave:

[mylifeismyown66]

I would be interested in running for VP this year :wave:

Well then I will nominate Eric! I think he would be an excellent addition to the BOD. GL!

[Sandia97]

I nominate Eric (Icycoral) for VP!!!

[Pallobi]

I would like to nominate Eric for VP, or back a nomination... However it works, lol... A good dude, very helpful, good reputation, and knowledgable... Ya can't go wrong...

[BlueChip]

Are the other 2 BOD's up for staying on? Eric (Ergbo) and Rich will you stay on?

[frankyrivera]

Alright who do I make the check payable to for Eric as vp. Lol just kidding he gets my vote though

[icycoral]

Lol checks already in the mail Franky. Just kidding, thank you for the support guys and ladies. You all rock!

[kynan]

Hmmm....I may have to pull a Romney or a Biden and get in on this thing.

[Chriskid]

Hmmm....I may have to pull a Romney or a Biden and get in on this thing.

Well....you have my nomination for prez,or vice whichever you want:)

[Chriskid]

I smell a debate....lol

[Munchie1976]

Hmmm....I may have to pull a Romney or a Biden and get in on this thing.

Kyle, you have my nomination as well in whichever you may choose to run for...president or vice president. It would be highly benifical for the club to have someone of your experience, knowledge and long standing relationships with people around!

[BubbaBoBobBrain]

I'm also down for Eric (Icycoral) as VP. Good luck brotha

[suicideissleep]

Mario you in? Steve you in? Kynan prez? Or vice? Eric vice or prez :) how big are they feeling hahaha Erbgo you going to run again? Chriskid would be nice seeing your foot in the door :)

[icycoral]

Mario you in? Steve you in? Kynan prez? Or vice? Eric vice or prez :) how big are they feeling hahaha Erbgo you going to run again? Chriskid would be nice seeing your foot in the door :)

I would be interested in vice president position. Thank you for any and all support!

[argi]

I would like to nominate hans1976 (Jeff) for the secretary postion.

Keith

[emessier]

Kynan has my support for prez

[SeaMystery]

What about treasurer??? Might as well have all new blood in there

[Rwinfrey]

Argi for treasurer.........

[hans1976]

The most important roles:
1 - Treasurer - you need someone responsible, who knows the ByLaws (and will be sure all expenditures will be made in accordance with them), who knows the tax laws and will take the heat when they are not followed. You don't want someone who will use clubs funds to pay for a wedding or a funeral. Afterall, CTARS is a corporation - a non-profit one at that.

2 - Public Relations Officer - This person works with area clubs and helps organize trips like the ones in years past to Atlantis Aquarium. They also work with the local stores and businesses to create "Club Days" and keep the industry informed as to what the club is doing. This person gets the raffle prizes. In past years, the club has been able to raffle of things like Hanna PO4 meters and Tunze pumps at regular monthly meetings. There was one where we raffled off an Aquatinics 6 bulb T5 light fixture (worth over $500).

3 - Secretary - This person has to keep all the Board Meeting Minutes and be sure that the ByLaws are up to date and filed regularly with the Secretary of The State (must be done at least every 3 years)

4 - President - Sets up the monthly meetings

5 - Vice President - Backup the President

[Rwinfrey]

Well Jeff are you interested

[Munchie1976]

I would like to nominate Emery Messier (emessier) for Treasurer. He was President and Treasurer of Jewett City Sports Center for 10 years as well as a founder and chairman of Quinebaug Valley Chapter Ducks Unlimited which is a preservation of wetlands for waterfowl. He has also been involved in varies businesses so I believe he already has a vast understanding in how his club responsibilities would work and need to be handled. As most of you also know, he is always willing to help out out with a hand when possible and has a great deal of knowledge in our hobby for someone who has only just gotten into it recently.

I would really like to see a Public Relations Officer voted in this time...we are desperately in the need of one and in addition, operating without a one could be a violation of our organizations current structure.

[Chriskid]

I would like to nominate Emery Messier (emessier) for Treasurer. He was President and Treasurer of Jewett City Sports Center for 10 years as well as a founder and chairman of Quinebaug Valley Chapter Ducks Unlimited which is a preservation of wetlands for waterfowl. He has also been involved in varies businesses so I believe he already has a vast understanding in how his club responsibilities would work and need to be handled. As most of you also know, he is always willing to help out out with a hand when possible and has a great deal of knowledge in our hobby for someone who has only just gotten into it recently.

I would really like to see a Public Relations Officer voted in this time...we are desperately in the need of one and in addition, operating without a one could be a violation of our organizations current structure.

Here is a strong second from me.

[Chriskid]

These people also NEED to be present at club meetings. Good or bad

The most important roles:
1 - Treasurer - you need someone responsible, who knows the ByLaws (and will be sure all expenditures will be made in accordance with them), who knows the tax laws and will take the heat when they are not followed. You don't want someone who will use clubs funds to pay for a wedding or a funeral. Afterall, CTARS is a corporation - a non-profit one at that.

2 - Public Relations Officer - This person works with area clubs and helps organize trips like the ones in years past to Atlantis Aquarium. They also work with the local stores and businesses to create "Club Days" and keep the industry informed as to what the club is doing. This person gets the raffle prizes. In past years, the club has been able to raffle of things like Hanna PO4 meters and Tunze pumps at regular monthly meetings. There was one where we raffled off an Aquatinics 6 bulb T5 light fixture (worth over $500).

3 - Secretary - This person has to keep all the Board Meeting Minutes and be sure that the ByLaws are up to date and filed regularly with the Secretary of The State (must be done at least every 3 years)

4 - President - Sets up the monthly meetings

5 - Vice President - Backup the President

[argi]

Argi for treasurer.........

Due to my work I have conflicts of interest holding a position on the board of the club, so I respectfully decline...but thanks for the consideration.

Keith

[argi]

2 - Public Relations Officer - This person works with area clubs and helps organize trips like the ones in years past to Atlantis Aquarium. They also work with the local stores and businesses to create "Club Days" and keep the industry informed as to what the club is doing. This person gets the raffle prizes. In past years, the club has been able to raffle of things like Hanna PO4 meters and Tunze pumps at regular monthly meetings. There was one where we raffled off an Aquatinics 6 bulb T5 light fixture (worth over $500).


I think this position was made for Rwinfrey...so I would like to nominate him if he is interested.

Keith

[suicideissleep]

Here is a strong second from me.

I would like to third this :)

[Munchie1976]

I think this position was made for Rwinfrey...so I would like to nominate him if he is interested.

Keith

I agree, if he's interested, I think he would be perfect. He did a wonderful job getting items for us for CMAC. What do you say Rwinfrey?

[SteelerMike]

[QUOTE=Munchie1976;20857130]I would like to nominate Emery Messier (emessier) for Treasurer. He was President and Treasurer of Jewett City Sports Center for 10 years as well as a founder and chairman of Quinebaug Valley Chapter Ducks Unlimited which is a preservation of wetlands for waterfowl. He has also been involved in varies businesses so I believe he already has a vast understanding in how his club responsibilities would work and need to be handled. As most of you also know, he is always willing to help out out with a hand when possible and has a great deal of knowledge in our hobby for someone who has only just gotten into it recently.

I definitely support this nomination as well :)

[BubbaBoBobBrain]

EMessier for treasurer
RWinfrey for public relations officer

If they are up for the job they have my vote

[suicideissleep]

Anyway we can add a section on the voting here? Would like to make a position that leads people or does it him or her self to take care of the lutz tank. If so I would like to nominate my self :)
Would like to see the tank getting touched by a member once a week at least ever othere week.

[cato]

I talked to Icy yesterday too and meant to nominate him for VP also. Apologies for late posting. :thumbsup:

[suicideissleep]

Kynan- prez
Icy- vice
Emessier- trez
Rwinfrey-pro

My votes if the people are up for it

[suicideissleep]

I would like to nominate hans1976 (Jeff) for the secretary postion.

Keith

Would strongly second this would be nice to see someone with ur past in the club u got my vote if u would like to

[Chriskid]

I agree, if he's interested, I think he would be perfect. He did a wonderful job getting items for us for CMAC. What do you say Rwinfrey?

2nd ,or 3rd for rwinfrey

[hans1976]

Sorry, there is no way I can make club meetings, so I will have to decline.

[Rwinfrey]

Unfortunately I have other obligations on Sundays I will not give up so I can't really say yes......but I will help anytime the club needs me......

[sdheath]

Seems like there a lot of nominations happening without first checking with the potential nominee...

In the interest of keeping this thread as clean as possible... Please don't nominate anyone without first checking with them to see if they are able and willing to run for the post.

[Munchie1976]

Seems like there a lot of nominations happening without first checking with the potential nominee...

In the interest of keeping this thread as clean as possible... Please don't nominate anyone without first checking with them to see if they are able and willing to run for the post.

I have already spoken with Emery so, I know he is willing to accept. However, I do remember seeing a post on here from Jeff (Hans1976) about possibly running for secretary...am I going crazy or is this why people nominated him?

Rwinfrey, under the obligations it never states that you have to be at each of the club meetings like the other BOD. I don't know if this might sway your mind a bit at all. Also, seeing how you live fairly close to us, I have no problem helping out if you need to get things back and forth to the meetings that you would not attend should you choose to run...I also truly apologize for putting you on the spot in any way now or in the prior post...I definitely don't mean to offend.

[Chriskid]

Seems like there a lot of nominations happening without first checking with the potential nominee...

In the interest of keeping this thread as clean as possible... Please don't nominate anyone without first checking with them to see if they are able and willing to run for the post.

Seems like Alot of mind changes, not premature posts. And it's a thread of high interest.I also thought I wuz crazy seeing,then not seeing a volunteer. non the less it looks to be looking good so far.no need to police.lol :)

[Rwinfrey]

I agree people need to be asked who really cares if its in a thread or a pm. It's not hard to decline

[suicideissleep]

Seems like there a lot of nominations happening without first checking with the potential nominee...

In the interest of keeping this thread as clean as possible... Please don't nominate anyone without first checking with them to see if they are able and willing to run for the post.

How you feeling on running for something? Like to see ur face back up there

[SeaMystery]

Kynan- prez
Icy- vice
Emessier- trez
Rwinfrey-pro

My votes if the people are up for it::

These 3 nominees have my support. :fish1:

[emessier]

Thank you for the nomination and the show of support. Yes I will accept the nomination. Definately would love to be more involved in the club. Thanks again, Emery

[suicideissleep]

Thumbs up :)

[kynan]

So here is my piece.

I really need an idea of time commitment regarding the presidents position ...that would be great.

What I can bring to the position:

8 years or so in the reefkeeping hobby.
good knowledge of reef systems and a history of SPS success
younger years I was president of my condo association for several years
a 25 year professional history in human services. 15 years in management; currently Director of an office with give or take 180 staff
knowledge of how to organize/budget/and perhaps most importantly run a meeting
my leadership style is oriented to shared decision making/ entrusting capable people with power /comfort with delegation
An enthusiasm with the hobby/ a native curiosity about and appreciation for the ocean and marine life
A comfort with acknowledging errors and learning by investigation and more importantly the experiences of others

What I would like to see:

More organization of meeting content with advance notice of meeting themes
more distribution of meeting sites if economically feasible
club raffles with thorough encouragement of member fray donations
club days at local fish stores; activities that encourage support of brick and mortar operations to further bolster the hobby and support 360 degree growth of the club
Coordination with other reef clubs ..eg economies of scale with bringing in outside speakers and vendor support
better club endorsement of FFM
a more robust CMAC
more active participation of membership with taking the lead on projects and meetings for instance building acrylic fragment or QT tank
A better CTARS site off RC
bringing back TOTM

These are just some random thoughts.

[sdheath]

How you feeling on running for something? Like to see ur face back up there

Sorry, thanks for thinking of me but I don't think I'm ready to get back into it right now.

[Munchie1976]

Kynan, as always in the past, you have my FULL support and commitment. I feel that your qualifications alone would make you a wonderful new addition to our BOD let alone your wonderful personality. It would be terrific to see a 'veteran' of our club come back and show the newbies some of the things that we used to do in the past :)

[kynan]

Thank you!

Another thought I have ...and there are pluses and minus points to this...structure meeting content to the natural ebb and flow of the club. I mean focus energies on things that drive stocking decisions and efforts over the colder inside months..perhaps heavier on SPS and LPS and in warmer months converse about tinkering and refining projects ..fish..education on less thought of subjects for instance choices in nitrate control...having sample and discussion of all the different choices of live rock...people reporting out on various ore assigned experiences EG DSBs or demonstrating choices with testing I.e.Hanna Meters

[norrin_radd]

Eric Has My vote for VP......
Good lick brutha!

[Rwinfrey]

I agree with kynan do we have a web designer in the club .I also think the club should get companies and stores not just to offer discounts but sponser the club maybe with signs in the store ,letting people know we exsist.i also think non members should be able to use the web sight for posting ......

[Munchie1976]

I agree with kynan do we have a web designer in the club .I also think the club should get companies and stores not just to offer discounts but sponser the club maybe with signs in the store ,letting people know we exsist.i also think non members should be able to use the web sight for posting ......

There was a time when I used to see our signs in LFS stores all the time...I don't know why that stopped. Also, years ago, when CMAC rolled around, the signs for it were EVERYWHERE!! I know that the idea for different/more aggressive web design has been brought up, I don't know what has ever happened with it. In this day & age it's necessary to be up to speed with our web page and social media. This is something that should be brought up next year for sure, I agree with both you and Kynan.

[suicideissleep]

I have a awesome we designer grew up with the kid trying to get him into saltwater :) see if I can work my magic

[BubbaBoBobBrain]

Well, I'm not sure if I have ever met Kynan or not but he definitely talks one hell of a game here. Sounds to me like he would make a great president. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how this all turns out. Good lick to everyone campaigning out there kissing hands and shaking babies, lol. I am looking forward to seeing how this all turns out.

[Reefir]

I would rock a CTARS sticker on my cars and work truck!!!!Free advertising. Kynan would have my vote and Icy! I like the idea of having sign posted at sponsored stores , and organized meetings and a more Robust CMAC..etc

[Chriskid]

Well, I'm not sure if I have ever met Kynan or not but he definitely talks one hell of a game here. Sounds to me like he would make a great president. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how this all turns out. Good lick to everyone campaigning out there kissing hands and shaking babies, lol. I am looking forward to seeing how this all turns out.
this so far is a no brainer here. i cant wait to see this club come back hard!!!
kynan you know i gotcha back man:)and well said, like you've done this before:)

[BfishLpond78]

I know a guy who makes great stickers and signs!!! :p

sent from never never land...

[Sandia97]

I'd rock a sticker on my new truck ..a pink or purple one preferably but if not, black is ok lol

[charleneatkins]

I would like it to have colors. I do not look forward to my tanks looking black.

[BubbaBoBobBrain]

I would put a club sticker on my car if it was one that would go across the front or rear windshield. No stickers on the paint. I can't afford any more depreciation, lol

[frankyrivera]

I agree but stick to blues greens or anytime that resembles water with maybe a touch of corals. Nothing too rainbow pride looking

[FroMan]

Regardless of who takes on the leadership roles within the club one item that should be added to the agenda is an overhaul of the bylaws. The current document is poorly written and leaves too much open to interpretation. The lack of a concise, clear, and cohesive document has created too many issues in the last several years.

[suicideissleep]

Regardless of who takes on the leadership roles within the club one item that should be added to the agenda is an overhaul of the bylaws. The current document is poorly written and leaves too much open to interpretation. The lack of a concise, clear, and cohesive document has created too many issues in the last several years.

+1 we all need to have a meeting and talk them over

[diablo243]

I agree with kynan do we have a web designer in the club .I also think the club should get companies and stores not just to offer discounts but sponser the club maybe with signs in the store ,letting people know we exsist.i also think non members should be able to use the web sight for posting ......

Yep web designer here with 13 yrs experience and willing to work gratis with club to get a new site up and running.

I have some great ideas to build a new site on a content management platform that makes for easy updates and automated solutions like membership enrollment, payment and site access as well as forums and Facebook like community elements.

Someone current BOD or post election if interested in chatting more pm me.

Good luck everyone on elections!

[Chriskid]

Regardless of who takes on the leadership roles within the club one item that should be added to the agenda is an overhaul of the bylaws. The current document is poorly written and leaves too much open to interpretation. The lack of a concise, clear, and cohesive document has created too many issues in the last several years.

that is true, but it wouldn't be to bad if they were held to, and or followed. seems we lost touch. they dont seem to bad to me,just not up held.
the thing is i understand them(most dont). and i also understand that not to many follow them.

[hans1976]

The current document was reviewed and modified by a UTC Lawyer back and approved by the membership in 2008. Many of the items added were to protect the club from being sued.

They were to be reviewed by the BoD in 2011.

Any changes made will need to be filed with The Secratary of the State.

Any changes made, you will have to be certain you follow the IRS rules for non-profits.

[FintasticCT]

I hope that any changes makes this club what it used to be.

[argi]

that is true, but it wouldn't be to bad if they were held to, and or followed. seems we lost touch. they dont seem to bad to me,just not up held.
the thing is i understand them(most dont). and i also understand that not to many follow them.

Examples please where the club isn't following the bylaws or the bylaws aren't being held up.


I hope that any changes makes this club what it used to be.

Todd...I think they club needs to find a good PR person who can work closely with the stores. Unfortunately no one seems to be able to commit the time it takes for this. Maybe the club can find a couple of people that could work different parts of CT to do this.

Keith

[Chriskid]

The current document was reviewed and modified by a UTC Lawyer back and approved by the membership in 2008. Many of the items added were to protect the club from being sued.

They were to be reviewed by the BoD in 2011.

i think they are fine, thats kinda what i said prior. however wuz it overlooked in 2011? if not why?

I hope that any changes makes this club what it used to be.
ive been saying this for a long time, looks like a few are up for the challenge:) and all of you will have my support to do so, tried to help in the recent past, and will have it again:)

[Chriskid]

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablo243
I mentioned to ClemQuat via PM I would offer my services as a web developer to do a new site gratis. I have a degree in web development and have been in business for over 13yrs. So if any BODs read this hit me up, offer still stands and could turn the club site into a true tool with features that could rival RC.




you sould be utilized for sure. its under used BC its under updated. check out other club forums...... last i checked the seriose clubs have there own. NJ club forum is sweet. club pics ,people involved, it would be very cool to have all these things. diablo243 it looks like there would be no reason to take you up on this. GL

so can we nominate web masters.lol you would have a few votes here

chris

[Chriskid]

[QUOTE=argi;20868028]Examples please where the club isn't following the bylaws or the bylaws aren't being held up.



PM comming

but all you need to do is read them.and attend a few meetings.

[argi]

PM comming

but all you need to do is read them.and attend a few meetings.

I replied with some comments, hopefully they all make sense. I stopped attending meeting a while ago for numerous reasons, but mostly it was due to the day and time of the meetings as Sunday nights simply don't work for my schedule. Move meeting to Friday nights and I will be at every one of them:thumbsup:

[BfishLpond78]

What are the responsibilites of the PR person again?

[BfishLpond78]

Lol nevermind, i found it...that sounds like a fun position.

[argi]

What are the responsibilites of the PR person again?

1. maintains relationships with sponsors
2. manage communications to the community through Newsletter, CTARS website, mailings or other means
3. Developes relationships with other marine aquarium societies


That is what is listed in the bylaws. But I think it also needs to address getting new sponsors as well.

[Chriskid]

I replied with some comments, hopefully they all make sense. I stopped attending meeting a while ago for numerous reasons, but mostly it was due to the day and time of the meetings as Sunday nights simply don't work for my schedule. Move meeting to Friday nights and I will be at every one of them:thumbsup:

thank you ill be returning comments to your questions, lol i didnt mean you going to meetings persay, i ment all reading. but its Very nice to see an intellectual comment. we will talk more TKS again.

[argi]

Lol nevermind, i found it...that sounds like a fun position.

It can be fun. I was a PR person for the club I was in when I lived in SoCal. Now that trip to the fish store is really a "business" trip, LOL.

[BfishLpond78]

It can be fun. I was a PR person for the club I was in when I lived in SoCal. Now that trip to the fish store is really a "business" trip, LOL.

hmmmmmmmmm.....

[Markh65]

Kynan has my vote for prez, he has always been a great asset to everyone. Plus he has some great coral.
Icy- vice prez, is always very involved on RC and with the club in general.
Cato would make a great PR guy, he can sell ice cubes to Eskimos. :)

[osrascom]

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablo243
I mentioned to ClemQuat via PM I would offer my services as a web developer to do a new site gratis. I have a degree in web development and have been in business for over 13yrs. So if any BODs read this hit me up, offer still stands and could turn the club site into a true tool with features that could rival RC.




you sould be utilized for sure. its under used BC its under updated. check out other club forums...... last i checked the seriose clubs have there own. NJ club forum is sweet. club pics ,people involved, it would be very cool to have all these things. diablo243 it looks like there would be no reason to take you up on this. GL

so can we nominate web masters.lol you would have a few votes here

chris

I could use a good webmaster too.

Sounds like there are going to be alot of changes for the good. You can already feel the excitement of the new look of 2013

[Rwinfrey]

I would like to see meetings rotate so people with sundays booked can attend it might also help increasing club size

[emessier]

I would like to see meetings rotate so people with sundays booked can attend it might also help increasing club size

I agree, I think it will bring more faces to the meetings, thus more involvement.

[FroMan]

that is true, but it wouldn't be to bad if they were held to, and or followed. seems we lost touch. they don't seem to bad to me,just not up held.
the thing is i understand them(most don't). and i also understand that not to many follow them.

It would be great if the the by laws were followed. No where in the by laws is there a mechanism to hold the BOD responsible if the by laws aren't being adhered to. i.e. I can only recall a hand full of meetings over the ~7.5 years I've been a member of the club where the full BoD attends monthly meetings on a regular basis.


The current document was reviewed and modified by a UTC Lawyer back and approved by the membership in 2008. Many of the items added were to protect the club from being sued.

They were to be reviewed by the BoD in 2011.

Any changes made will need to be filed with The Secretary of the State.

Any changes made, you will have to be certain you follow the IRS rules for non-profits.

Not to state the obvious here, but just because they were reviewed by a "UTC lawyer", doesn't mean that they are clear, concise, correct, or meaningful to the members. The only thing an impartial lawyer can effectively comment on is the legality of the document. Even at that, if you give the document to two different lawyers for review, there is a statistically significant chance that, they will have 2 different interpretations of the exact same document.

An annual review and ratification of the club's by laws at election time or another suitable time should be written into the document.

[FroMan]

Lol never mind, i found it...that sounds like a fun position.

That depends on the store and the situation. Most owners are very pleasant to deal with and are willing to work towards a mutually beneficial relationship.

However, there are some owners that harbor animosity towards the club after how they were treated by members of former boards. The current board has done a good job at repairing those relationship, but you never know what skeletons are still in the closet.

There is one store that I will never set foot in again after the unprofessional manner I was treated that was the direct result of the actions of another individual.

[FroMan]

Due to my work I have conflicts of interest holding a position on the board of the club, so I respectfully decline...but thanks for the consideration.

Keith

Keith's comment here reminded me of another item that should be included into the by laws. A conflict of interest clause and survey of those that are on the board or that are in appointed positions.

[BfishLpond78]

Ohhhh i see, some of these older incidents sound like they belong on reality TV.

[FroMan]

Ohhhh i see, some of these older incidents sound like they belong on reality TV.

There is more politics that surrounds this club than there should be.

All you have to do is read all the constant negativity and "Monday morning quarterbacking" on this forum.

[Chriskid]

It would be great if the the by laws were followed. No where in the by laws is there a mechanism to hold the BOD responsible if the by laws aren't being adhered to. i.e. I can only recall a hand full of meetings over the ~7.5 years I've been a member of the club where the full BoD attends monthly meetings on a regular basis. .

Article VI: Section 1: Paragraph 8: Any officer, committee, employee or other agent of the club may be removed, either for or With out cause by the board whenever, in the judgment of such authority, the best interests of The club will be served thereby, but such removal shall be without prejudice to the contract Rights of any person so removed. Should any officer or director be absent from three Consecutive meetings of the board, they shall be removed with out notice.

also
Paragraph 2: All officers of CTARS are to be elected by the membership of CTARS at the regular
monthly Membership meeting to be held in November of each election year.

this election is next Sunday correct?why is it stated on this thread that the election is December?

[FroMan]

Chris - you helped me make my point; "in the judgement of such authority". Who or what is "such authority". Is that the entire BoD, a sole member, or the club membership. The process of such a removal is undefined. Is there a vote or does a single individual make the decision?

[Chriskid]

Chris - you helped me make my point; "in the judgement of such authority". Who or what is "such authority". Is that the entire BoD, a sole member, or the club membership. The process of such a removal is undefined. Is there a vote or does a single individual make the decision?

yes, im sorry for bringing all this up.but it all needs to be thought of. me and some others will not bring these things up out of fear of being removed as well,but i figured that now is a better time then any. i truly enjoyed this club some time back,and wish to love it again. club members helped me most of my salt life and i feel these things are worth fighting for.:)wish i could be part of BOD but my life now holds from doing so. maybe next year.

chris

[erbgo]

I nominate Mario as Treasure he has stated he would accept

[Chriskid]

I nominate Mario as Treasure he has stated he would accept

this election is next Sunday correct?why is it stated on this thread that the election is December?

[hans1976]

Mario brought up the point of Conflict of interest. How would you define having a conflict of interest? Jon Swanson collects stuff for his school. Would that be a conflict if he were selected as PR? How would you know if he is getting stuff for the school vs the club?

Something that should be put into the job description is the Treasurer should be knowledgeable to accounting and IRS rules, otherwise hire a CPA to review the books and file the tax returns. CTARS is a 501c non-profit and there limits as to what the club can and cannot do. In the past, Rich was not. I am a Financial Analyst (and Treasurer of MASNA) so I was able to guide him.

[Rwinfrey]

I wonder would that mean I would have a conflict due to my school...hmm

[emessier]

I would like to see a treasures report at the beginning of the meeting haven't seen one since i joined the club. All the clubs and businesses i have been involved in had a report at the beginning of every meeting. Hopefully one of the BOD can have it for the meeting. Thanks

[Rwinfrey]

All I have involvement with a few companies which has helped us in the past am I actually aloud to do this on the clubs behalf seeing as I am nota BOD

[argi]

Mario brought up the point of Conflict of interest. How would you define having a conflict of interest? Jon Swanson collects stuff for his school. Would that be a conflict if he were selected as PR? How would you know if he is getting stuff for the school vs the club?

I wonder would that mean I would have a conflict due to my school...hmm

IMHO anyone who works within the aquarium industry (whether it be an online store, LFS, manufacturer, sells out of their home above and beyond what an average hobbyist sells) should not be eligible to hold a position on the board. Simply put if you benefit financially from the aquarium hobby where you are filing taxes for your earning, you shouldn't be eligible to hold a position on the board.

As for people like Jon and Bob, that IMO is a gray area. They are not doing this for a business, but they are trying to get donations that could compete with their ability to get donations for the club.

[argi]

All I have involvement with a few companies which has helped us in the past am I actually aloud to do this on the clubs behalf seeing as I am nota BOD

I would say yes...CT has a lot of resources (people) that should be utilized whenever they can be. If you are getting a paycheck from these companies then you shouldn't be allowed to be on the board, but assisting the board heck yes!!!

[Rwinfrey]

"""not a paycheck "" but I do get several pricing benefits ...

[Chriskid]

[QUOTE=hans1976;20872608]Mario brought up the point of Conflict of interest. How would you define having a conflict of interest? Jon Swanson collects stuff for his school. Would that be a conflict if he were selected as PR? How would you know if he is getting stuff for the school vs the club?


these things should already be documented, and receipts written. as anyone who files taxes knows.

[Chriskid]

I would like to see a treasures report at the beginning of the meeting haven't seen one since i joined the club. All the clubs and businesses i have been involved in had a report at the beginning of every meeting. Hopefully one of the BOD can have it for the meeting. Thanks

and i second this.

[Rwinfrey]

Problem is most companies don't want reciepts....and I believe we don't qualify to give tax recieptsfor donations

[emessier]

Mario brought up the point of Conflict of interest. How would you define having a conflict of interest? Jon Swanson collects stuff for his school. Would that be a conflict if he were selected as PR? How would you know if he is getting stuff for the school vs the club?

Something that should be put into the job description is the Treasurer should be knowledgeable to accounting and IRS rules, otherwise hire a CPA to review the books and file the tax returns. CTARS is a 501c non-profit and there limits as to what the club can and cannot do. In the past, Rich was not. I am a Financial Analyst (and Treasurer of MASNA) so I was able to guide him.

I couldn't agree with you more!! Unfortunately there aren't to many CPA's or Financial Analysts that would want to be the treasurer. Are you interested in the Treasurers position??

I have been involved in many small businesses, Corporations, Non Profit organizations as well as LLC's. Some my own and others that I served as officers. We always used a CPA in order to protect the officers or members. I use my brother who is a CPA for large corporations. He only does businesses whether they are Corporations, LLC's or non profit. He is always just a phone call away for any questions on tax legalities or organizational procedures or filings. Do we use a CPA to file the taxes??? This is a real business and should be treated as one.

[emessier]

Problem is most companies don't want reciepts....and I believe we don't qualify to give tax recieptsfor donations

When someone donates to a non profit organization a receipt should always be given. If not for them----for us.. We shoud have a record of all donations even if we use them for our raffle.....

[Sandia97]

So are the elections this month or December?

[erbgo]

this election is next Sunday correct?why is it stated on this thread that the election is December?

because it is always done on line and it will be announced at the December meeting like it has been done since the clubs conception

[Sandia97]

Ohhhhh so we vote online?? When/how does this happen? Sorry, I've never done this before :)

[erbgo]

I would like to see a treasures report at the beginning of the meeting haven't seen one since i joined the club. All the clubs and businesses i have been involved in had a report at the beginning of every meeting. Hopefully one of the BOD can have it for the meeting. Thanks

since the time I joined the club I have never herd a treasures report. When Jeff was President I asked him several times about what was in the account and was always told enough. I have been President for 8 months now and had the report put on the CTARS site it was broken down by quarters. As far as Jeff helping Rich I would have to ask Rich as far as I know Rich filed the taxes unassisted and has done this for several years. this thread is for the nominations. If we could please keep this to that and if we need to dispute things could we do this in another thread or ask in pms

[SeaMystery]

Prior to everyone voting, and prior to nominees taking their new positions, we will be able to view the financial records, correct? It's only fair that the nominees know "what they are getting into" prior to taking their new position. And being a fairly new member I think it would be interesting to see what the expenses were/are, etc. (example, breakdown of expenses from Mohegan Sun conference).

[Munchie1976]

Wow! First of all, Jeff always gave the treasury report at the meetings. I am ashamed that you would throw our former President under the bus like that especially after all the help he gave you recently for CMAC! I also feel (as I'm sure many other do which is why it's in this thread) that this is imperative in this election to know these things first and foremost which is why it has been brought up. Hopefully our new BOD will keep these things mentioned at all times in the coming year! Secondly, your initial post in this thread stated that we will be electing the nominated members the first two weeks in December so, which is it exactly? This month or next month? Please be more clear as I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like a PRECISE answer right about now....

[emessier]

since the time I joined the club I have never herd a treasures report. When Jeff was President I asked him several times about what was in the account and was always told enough. I have been President for 8 months now and had the report put on the CTARS site it was broken down by quarters. As far as Jeff helping Rich I would have to ask Rich as far as I know Rich filed the taxes unassisted and has done this for several years. this thread is for the nominations. If we could please keep this to that and if we need to dispute things could we do this in another thread or ask in pms

We are talking about current reports which is this years responsibility. I looked a couple months ago for the treasurers report on the site and it wasn't there.

PM coming

[Chriskid]

because it is always done on line and it will be announced at the December meeting like it has been done since the clubs conception

this is your bylaw

Paragraph 2: All officers of CTARS are to be elected by the membership of CTARS at the regular
monthly Membership meeting to be held in November of each election year.

[erbgo]

this is your bylaw

Paragraph 2: All officers of CTARS are to be elected by the membership of CTARS at the regular
monthly Membership meeting to be held in November of each election year.

You are correct these are them and I took over in March of 2012 so I am trying to bring it back closer to where it is supposed to be

[emessier]

How do you know who is voting??? if it is done online?? Is the site secure?? I thought the votes needed to be done in person

[erbgo]

Wow! First of all, Jeff always gave the treasury report at the meetings. I am ashamed that you would throw our former President under the bus like that especially after all the help he gave you recently for CMAC! I also feel (as I'm sure many other do which is why it's in this thread) that this is imperative in this election to know these things first and foremost which is why it has been brought up. Hopefully our new BOD will keep these things mentioned at all times in the coming year! Secondly, your initial post in this thread stated that we will be electing the nominated members the first two weeks in December so, which is it exactly? This month or next month? Please be more clear as I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like a PRECISE answer right about now....

you obviously were not at the meetings because since I joined they have NEVER been given learn your facts before you try to make a point

[Chriskid]

You are correct these are them and I took over in March of 2012 so I am trying to bring it back closer to where it is supposed to be

not closer, the right way.

[Chriskid]

you obviously were not at the meetings because since I joined they have NEVER been given learn your facts before you try to make a point

i wuz also present for jeffs reports. but this is about the current bod. and the doing the right thing.

[erbgo]

i wuz also present for jeffs reports. but this is about the current bod. and the doing the right thing.

well I have missed 2 meetings in the time since I joined the club and you are wrong

[Chriskid]

well I have missed 2 meetings in the time since I joined the club and you are wrong

well right or wrong , your going to give one.

[Munchie1976]

you obviously were not at the meetings because since I joined they have NEVER been given learn your facts before you try to make a point

Are you seriously arguing with me? Please, show some leadership instead of acting childish. I just saw you point the finger of blame again in another post about why the nominations/voting is off. This is ridiculous!

For those that do not know, yes, Chris and I attended CTARS meetings regularly for many years and they were preformed wonderfully and were done very professionally. We saw some terrific speakers and learned many things that we have passed on throughout the years. We can only hope that CTARS can continue this in the coming years ahead.

[ShawnMarie]

Good Evening to all of the Members of CTARS,

I have been following this 'thread' from the beginning, and as a very new member I am confused and just a bit worried. I have PM'd a few folks from the club and only heard back from two. One a 'new' member,and one on the board. As a new member I really hoped I would have some sort of information about the structure of the club and what the meetings consist of and whether or not any events would be a part of the entire experience. I was not given any information on how to find any of this on my own. I hope communication between the BOD and the members will become easier.
I have joined this club to learn about this hobby, to meet new folks with similar interests and to have fun. I will hopefully see all of you at the meeting on the 18th and my expectations will be met.

[Rwinfrey]

I think we are starting to loose track who did what, does it matter its old news. Lets just keep it going with the issues for the up and coming BOD... Eric this discussion is important now and should be in this thread people that are incoming need to here what's on the body of the clubs mind and there concerns are important......

[Rwinfrey]

Sawnmarie first of all welcome. Second I think they are people try to help on this forum like crazy if you have a need or question ask it here 95% of the time it wont go unanswered ...now as far as the Ctars web site goes it just doesn't need nail Polish in needs a full Makeover but it looks as that is honing to get worked on....

[Munchie1976]

Good Evening to all of the Members of CTARS,

I have been following this 'thread' from the beginning, and as a very new member I am confused and just a bit worried. I have PM'd a few folks from the club and only heard back from two. One a 'new' member,and one on the board. As a new member I really hoped I would have some sort of information about the structure of the club and what the meetings consist of and whether or not any events would be a part of the entire experience. I was not given any information on how to find any of this on my own. I hope communication between the BOD and the members will become easier.
I have joined this club to learn about this hobby, to meet new folks with similar interests and to have fun. I will hopefully see all of you at the meeting on the 18th and my expectations will be met.

ShawnMarie, don't worry...you are actually just reading politics which no matter which way you look at them, are always kinda crappy. When it all boils down to it however, this club is bursting with wonderful people that are always willing to lead a helping hand or give some advice to anyone in need! Once this is all over you'll see!! Can't wait to meet you!! :)

[emessier]

So is the vote going to be at this months meeting? or online? In order for it to be binding I think we should go by the bylaws right?

[suicideissleep]

So is the vote going to be at this months meeting? or online? In order for it to be binding I think we should go by the bylaws right?

Bylaws have the word law in them for a reason yes ur supose to follow them for everything the club does so it can run smoothly with out all this drama and if the gov stepped in and asked about our nonprofit club and wanted to see everything I know we would be screwed lol so hopfully we get in gear

[erbgo]

As in the first post very clear the next BOD can change it but as it has been this will be the way it will be done

I would like to leave the nominations open for the month of November, with the vote happening the first two weeks of December. We will announce the new board at the December Meeting, with the elected Board of Directors taking over Jan 1,2013.

[Rwinfrey]

Clearified

[FroMan]

I nominate Mario as Treasure he has stated he would accept

Eric - thank you for the nomination. I would be honored to take over for Rich.

Mario

[FroMan]

IMHO anyone who works within the aquarium industry (whether it be an online store, LFS, manufacturer, sells out of their home above and beyond what an average hobbyist sells) should not be eligible to hold a position on the board. Simply put if you benefit financially from the aquarium hobby where you are filing taxes for your earning, you shouldn't be eligible to hold a position on the board.

As for people like Jon and Bob, that IMO is a gray area. They are not doing this for a business, but they are trying to get donations that could compete with their ability to get donations for the club.

Keith - Thanks for summarizing your thoughts. It is a nice frame work to build on.

One item I would add beyond immediate employment or secondary income streams is are there any other boards (i.e school boards) or secondary activities (i.e. baseball coach) that would impede or detract from or impede the ability of an individual to meet the duties of the role they would be looking to fill.

Additionally, individuals would also need to clear their involvement with their primary place of employment to ensure that their employer would not view their participation on the board of directors as a conflict of interest to their job. This is probably more strict at larger corporations than smaller businesses, but its always good to let your boss know about extra curricular activities that show leadership! :)

[FroMan]

Ohhhhh so we vote online?? When/how does this happen? Sorry, I've never done this before :)

Sandia - voting for the last several years has been done online through the club's website. Each active member is allowed one (1) vote. Club members will be notified when the voting is open.

If more than one person is running for a said position, an individual is elected by a simple majority.


How do you know who is voting??? if it is done online?? Is the site secure?? I thought the votes needed to be done in person

Each member has to log into the club's website using the password that they have changed their account to. Greg has written a script that only allows each member to vote once. Greg has previously reviewed the results to ensure that there were no anomalies.

I do not know security level of the website. Greg may be able to answer that question.

[osrascom]

Just a few comments...... Jeff has much experience in all these areas. We should be happy that he has taken the time to follow CTARS and help behind the scenes when needed or asked. He has helped me many times with the start of OSRAS.

A member of the BOD should make sure they have the time to be a bod member. It takes alot of work behind the scenes. Its like running a business.

The job of the BOD is to keep the club running smoothly. If there are major changes that club members would like, the member population should vote on it ,the BOD should not make changes on their own.

Setting aside the reefing for a minute, I think the new BOD should have a meeting with members to have a roundtable to discuss changes or goals for the upcoming year, At this meeting members should be able to voice their opinion on various subjects. This online crap is like facebook and that is what kills clubs by members going elsewhere.

[osrascom]

Sandia - voting for the last several years has been done online through the club's website. Each active member is allowed one (1) vote. Club members will be notified when the voting is open.


2 more cents..I think voting should be at a meeting not online. I have been on a few BODs before and all election voting was done in person.

[FroMan]

I think we are starting to loose track who did what, does it matter its old news. Lets just keep it going with the issues for the up and coming BOD... Eric this discussion is important now and should be in this thread people that are incoming need to here what's on the body of the clubs mind and there concerns are important......


"Hindsight is always 20-20 but looking back it's still a bit fuzzy" - Dave Mustaine.

Discussion is good, but it has degraded beyond what can be construed as constructive. There seems to be a significant amount of animosity and misdirected anger in this thread. I'm really not sure what the catalyst is here.

I honestly can't remember a discussion about the club's finances at a meeting. Weather it be an income or expense. Finances were a 'taboo' topic and spoken about in vague, cryptic, generalities. Perhaps it was discussed at a meeting I missed. I used to do a lot of work related travel years ago.

The only time I became aware of the club's finances was the sole board meeting I sat in on several years ago after expressing interest in becoming a board member.

[SteelerMike]

Each member has to log into the club's website using the password that they have changed their account to. Greg has written a script that only allows each member to vote once. Greg has previously reviewed the results to ensure that there were no anomalies.

The only problem with this is that not everyone has created an account on the ctars website (I know I haven't as there hasn't been much on there). If that is the decision on how to proceed we would need to make sure everyone has accounts and access to be able to vote. I personally think in person makes more sense. Just my 2 cents.

[FroMan]

2 more cents..I think voting should be at a meeting not online. I have been on a few BODs before and all election voting was done in person.

What is your reasoning?

The online system gives all members the opportunity to vote. Whether they are able to attend a club members or not. It also mistakes proofs counting ballets and removes the possibility of other election related issues.

[FroMan]

Each member has to log into the club's website using the password that they have changed their account to. Greg has written a script that only allows each member to vote once. Greg has previously reviewed the results to ensure that there were no anomalies.

The only problem with this is that not everyone has created an account on the ctars website (I know I haven't as there hasn't been much on there). If that is the decision on how to proceed we would need to make sure everyone has accounts and access to be able to vote. I personally think in person makes more sense. Just my 2 cents.


Each member has an account created when they register as a member as part of entering the individual into the club's database. It is independent of signup at a meeting or online through paypal. Contact the VP if a username and password was not sent to you.

[Rwinfrey]

Lets just make this clear we are only talking at the moment 99 to 100 people that are able to vote . At the its peak 250 so if you really want this fair how about you mail everyone ballots sounds old school but it does work....

[joewallace2008]

Can I bring a guest to meetings or they have to be a member
And how long has this club been around
I didn't mean to post on This thread cant delete idk how

[emessier]

"Hindsight is always 20-20 but looking back it's still a bit fuzzy" - Dave Mustaine.

Discussion is good, but it has degraded beyond what can be construed as constructive. There seems to be a significant amount of animosity and misdirected anger in this thread. I'm really not sure what the catalyst is here.

I honestly can't remember a discussion about the club's finances at a meeting. Weather it be an income or expense. Finances were a 'taboo' topic and spoken about in vague, cryptic, generalities. Perhaps it was discussed at a meeting I missed. I used to do a lot of work related travel years ago.

The only time I became aware of the club's finances was the sole board meeting I sat in on several years ago after expressing interest in becoming a board member.

Can you tell me why the finances is a "Taboo" subject? What is the big secret? Am I missing something here? I believe it is called accountability. Meetings of clubs or organizations are always begun with a report from the pres,, Treas and any other activity that has gone on since the last meeting. For example donations received, money recieved either by membership or raffle and a balance on the account. The information is not just the boards. Please help me understand.

[swannyson7]

Why all the hate? It's a freakin' reef club people... it's supposed to be fun. It's this type of BS that drive people out of the club. Every year it's the same garbage and every year I question why I'm still a member...

[emessier]

I have rethought my nomination for Treassurer and have made a decision to remove myself from the nomination. Thanks, Emery

[frankyrivera]

Joe yes bring a friend bring Amanda too lol

[Markh65]

Why all the hate? It's a freakin' reef club people... it's supposed to be fun. It's this type of BS that drive people out of the club. Every year it's the same garbage and every year I question why I'm still a member...

Well said.

[ShawnMarie]

Sandia - voting for the last several years has been done online through the club's website. Each active member is allowed one (1) vote. Club members will be notified when the voting is open.

If more than one person is running for a said position, an individual is elected by a simple majority.




Each member has to log into the club's website using the password that they have changed their account to. Greg has written a script that only allows each member to vote once. Greg has previously reviewed the results to ensure that there were no anomalies.

I do not know security level of the website. Greg may be able to answer that question.

Each member has an account created when they register as a member as part of entering the individual into the club's database. It is independent of signup at a meeting or online through paypal. Contact the VP if a username and password was not sent to you.

Good Morning FroMan,
I will let you in on s little secrete... I have never been contacted by the BOD member that should have set up MY account for the CTARS website. I have tried to contact 'said' person with no result. If you know a better way, please do tell. I also wouldn't mind a little Bio on each nominee so I may get a better understanding of their background. Some of you may know these folks personally, but I know there are many that do not. With the flow of conversation on this 'thread', I hope that the tension does not flow to the actual meetings.

Have a great day,
Shawn

[Rwinfrey]

I think that is a great idea maybe in a new thread titled (nominee's ) bios would be great and maybe you can lock it up so there will be no comments those can stay in this thread

[Munchie1976]

Each member has to log into the club's website using the password that they have changed their account to. Greg has written a script that only allows each member to vote once. Greg has previously reviewed the results to ensure that there were no anomalies.

I do not know security level of the website. Greg may be able to answer that question.[/QUOTE]

When I asked for my own password, Greg told me to use Chris'

How do I vote then?

[FroMan]

Good Morning FroMan,
I will let you in on s little secrete... I have never been contacted by the BOD member that should have set up MY account for the CTARS website. I have tried to contact 'said' person with no result. If you know a better way, please do tell. I also wouldn't mind a little Bio on each nominee so I may get a better understanding of their background. Some of you may know these folks personally, but I know there are many that do not. With the flow of conversation on this 'thread', I hope that the tension does not flow to the actual meetings.

Have a great day,
Shawn

Shawn - PM sent

[erbgo]

When I asked for my own password, Greg told me to use Chris'

How do I vote then?[/QUOTE]

it is one vote per paid membership if you have both have paid then let me know and we will get you logged on.

[Chriskid]

Why all the hate? It's a freakin' reef club people... it's supposed to be fun. It's this type of BS that drive people out of the club. Every year it's the same garbage and every year I question why I'm still a member...

pm commin

[Munchie1976]

When I asked for my own password, Greg told me to use Chris'

How do I vote then?

it is one vote per paid membership if you have both have paid then let me know and we will get you logged on.[/QUOTE]

I have a membership card with my name on it, so therefore, I am entitled to a vote. If a family pays for a membership that does not somehow take their vote and turn it into only one...

Yes, please ask Greg to send me a password. As I will most certainly be voting in this election. Thank you.

[JustinBT]

A sticky with the current BOD list might be helpful?
Who is our current VP (and their RC handle) so I can PM him or her please?
I know I'm not the only paid member who doesn't have a CTARS card or login info for the CTARS site.
Having been a member of a couple gun clubs in the past we always started meetings with a treasurer's report, as well as prior meeting minutes, etc. I'm not sure we need a minutes report but open finances only seems logical. I recall BOD voting being done at our monthly meetings, though I don't have a problem using the CTARS site as long as everybody can log in problem free.

We're all involved for the same essential reasons :)

[argi]

As far as it stands there will be no election as there are no people running against each other as far as I can tell. Let me know if I missed anything:

Pres only kynan
VP only icycorals
Sec NO ONE
Treasurer FroMan
PR maybe BfishLpond78

Keith

[suicideissleep]

Bfishlpond I will be your backup if you need any would love to help

[osrascom]

What is your reasoning?

The online system gives all members the opportunity to vote. Whether they are able to attend a club members or not. It also mistakes proofs counting ballets and removes the possibility of other election related issues.

My reasoning is just a choice of my experience in other BODs and how other clubs do there elections. Opinion only.

After three years of countless times of pm ing greg or others trying to get onto CTARS website, Brenda and I just gave up and use the RC forum.

[FroMan]

it is one vote per paid membership if you have both have paid then let me know and we will get you logged on.

I have a membership card with my name on it, so therefore, I am entitled to a vote. If a family pays for a membership that does not somehow take their vote and turn it into only one...

Yes, please ask Greg to send me a password. As I will most certainly be voting in this election. Thank you.

Why would a family membership entitle more than 1 vote? A card only allows you to obtain the discount at participating stores.

A family membership should not entitle said users to more weight than a person who is single and paid the same $20.

[erbgo]

it is one vote per paid membership if you have both have paid then let me know and we will get you logged on.

I have a membership card with my name on it, so therefore, I am entitled to a vote. If a family pays for a membership that does not somehow take their vote and turn it into only one...

Yes, please ask Greg to send me a password. As I will most certainly be voting in this election. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

Sorry

[suicideissleep]

I tried it not that long ago to get club discounts so I could order from reef cleaners and I had no luck guess someone closed the forums down and you have to log in the forum to get the discounts so it wasn't going to work sucks but we just need to do this with less drama and more fire under the butts it's really not a good reflection of the club the club has rules so we follow them so we don't have problems like this

[osrascom]

Brenda and I didnt buy a family membership (paid $40.00) but we were given only 1 card asked a few times why..told it would be taken care of. And when we were at CMAC we were told we are a family so only 1 bag of goodies were given to us. Not that big a deal, but the 2013 BOD should be more organized.

[Chriskid]

i have a question for whoever.

why would someone want to be on the BOD without knowing the status of anything?
Emessier pulled out BC of the unknown.so why would froman want it? and dont you need a second,and 3rd nom?

[Munchie1976]

Now wait a minute...I carry a card because I am a MEMBER, not because I am looking for discounts! I am listed as a member along with Chris on the CTARS website. I would be happy to pay an additional $20 right now however, with the current treasury report up in the air for the entire year, I don't think that my money is going towards the club and this point, my vote is being turned down as well and for what reasoning? I would be allowed to be nominated as a BOD, so why would I not be allowed to vote as a member just because Chris and I paid as a family?

[Munchie1976]

In addition, can the President nominate anyone? I thought he was not considered a 'member' right now but the President...and HE cannot vote...sorry...

I'm seeing a heck of a lot of people bringing up the bylaws and then they are being bypassed anyway...why is this okay?

[icycoral]

so far in this thread I've read a lot of of posts from members who are offering up their time and resources to help out and keep the club rolling. Thank you to all of those! You guys are great with all of the behind the scenes support you have to offer, I'm sure you will be called on this next year for advise and past experience to make this year fun and interesting.

[johnken]

I was considering joining this club as a paid member, but after reading each and every post in this thread, I will not become a paying member. It seems like the bylaws are interpreted as each individual sees fit.
Looks like things are not done fairly in this club.

[Munchie1976]

You have absolutely NO right to take away mine, or any other member who paid for a family membership, rights to vote in this election!! Please have Greg forward me a password!!

Here is your proof straight from your bylaws...I ask again you follow these or I will take the appropriate actions!

Section 3. Rights and Privileges of Membership
Paragraph 1: All members in good standing shall be entitled to the following:
1: A membership card. This card shall be a receipt for payment of dues
2: A copy of the by-laws
3: A copy of all changes to the by-laws adopted after the member’s initial day of membership
4; The right to participate in all the general activities of CTARS
5: Eligibility for appointment as a member of any committee of CTARS
6: The right to nominate and vote on the election of officers of CTARS and other issues
as is put to vote
7: The right to be nominated for an elected to any officers position of CTARS

Section 4. Membership dues
*Paragraph 1: The members of CTARS will be subject to the annual dues of $15 per
individual or $20 per family membership. Memberships are renewable at the beginning of every
calendar year.

[johnken]

Looks like the PRES needs to get HIS facts straight.

[icycoral]

Keeping on topic of this thread, "Official Nominations for CTARS BOD", after speaking with Mike "BfishLpond78" I would like to nominate him for public relations officer. He has some very good ideas and is willing to help out the club with the responsibilities of the pr officer. I believe he will do a great job!

[Chriskid]

I was considering joining this club as a paid member, but after reading each and every post in this thread, I will not become a paying member. It seems like the bylaws are interpreted as each individual sees fit.
Looks like things are not done fairly in this club.

pls stay tuned, if i have to fix this so be it. there might be some unhappy people involved but, they will held accountable.

[johnken]

Im sure there are other people like me that would like to join but see this and back off

[saltychick]

You have absolutely NO right to take away mine, or any other member who paid for a family membership, rights to vote in this election!! Please have Greg forward me a password!!

Here is your proof straight from your bylaws...I ask again you follow these or I will take the appropriate actions!

Section 3. Rights and Privileges of Membership
Paragraph 1: All members in good standing shall be entitled to the following:
1: A membership card. This card shall be a receipt for payment of dues
2: A copy of the by-laws
3: A copy of all changes to the by-laws adopted after the member’s initial day of membership
4; The right to participate in all the general activities of CTARS
5: Eligibility for appointment as a member of any committee of CTARS
6: The right to nominate and vote on the election of officers of CTARS and other issues
as is put to vote
7: The right to be nominated for an elected to any officers position of CTARS

Section 4. Membership dues
*Paragraph 1: The members of CTARS will be subject to the annual dues of $15 per
individual or $20 per family membership. Memberships are renewable at the beginning of every
calendar year.

Wait a second. I paid 20 I am not married I am an individual why was I nit given the choice to pay 15? And neither was Collin. He paid 20 also. I'm a little confused.

[johnken]

With such an active thread, and so many questions, why arent the board members here to respond?

[argi]

Section 4. Membership dues
*Paragraph 1: The members of CTARS will be subject to the annual dues of $15 per
individual or $20 per family membership. Memberships are renewable at the beginning of every
calendar year.

Wait a second. I paid 20 I am not married I am an individual why was I nit given the choice to pay 15? And neither was Collin. He paid 20 also. I'm a little confused.

Munchie1976 left out the next section which amended that one:

Amendement Adopted regarding SEction 4 Membership Dues, Paragraph 1, October 1, 2007

*Paragraph 1: The membership of CTARS will be subject to the annual dues of $20 per year. The membership shall include all family members. Memberships are renewable at the beginning of every calendar year.

HTH,

Keith

[Munchie1976]

Wait a second. I paid 20 I am not married I am an individual why was I nit given the choice to pay 15? And neither was Collin. He paid 20 also. I'm a little confused.

Your also considered an additional family member like me therefore, not allowed to vote according to what our President wrote prior. Check the CTARS website...

http://www.ctars.org/default.aspx?uc=members

[Munchie1976]

Munchie1976 left out the next section which amended that one:

Amendement Adopted regarding SEction 4 Membership Dues, Paragraph 1, October 1, 2007

*Paragraph 1: The membership of CTARS will be subject to the annual dues of $20 per year. The membership shall include all family members. Memberships are renewable at the beginning of every calendar year.

HTH,

Keith

Sorry Argi, I missed that...it doesn't however take away my right to vote. It only changed the price of the membership...it also calls to question why people are being charged $40 dollars in the same household...

[johnken]

If they paid individual & not family, they should each have a vote!!
So its my understanding that if you pay 20 each, you get your own vote, but paying as a family, the other person has no say.
This tells me that they don't consider the "family" member a valuable member! Your only valuable if you cough up an extra 20.

[argi]

Sorry Argi, I missed that...it doesn't however take away my right to vote. It only changed the price of the membership...it also calls to question why people are being charged $40 dollars in the same household...

No worries...as was stated long ago, these bylaws NEED to be updated and cleaned up. They aren't bad, but they also aren't great.

Your case is a perfect example. It doesn't state in the bylaws that a family membership gets more than one vote. I guess we could take that further and if I wanted to have my wife and two kids vote I could...giving me 4 votes for my $20 vs. someone else getting one vote for their $20. Why should I get more votes than someone else, that isn't fair???? Amending the bylaws will help clear this up for future people.

Furthermore, same household and same family are two different things. Husband, wife, child should be covered under family. Boyfriends/girlfriends living under the same household shouldn't be, but again this is not addressed in the bylaws what is considered "family".

If they paid individual & not family, they should each have a vote!!

Yes...IMO it should be one vote PER membership.

JMHO...

Keith

[kynan]

I hate typing messages on my iPhone but have some down time before a wedding.

First of all it's a shame this thread has deteriorated to the point of turning off members and dissuading new members from joining. I am sure the original intent of the thread was to sponsor enthusiasm rather than extinguish it. Lets get back to that.

Second the by laws are just that by laws. The driver for a productive club in my eyes should not be the BOD or the by laws. It should be the collection of members and their activities and input that gives the club value.

I have not made many meetings as of late due to the natural
ebb and flow of interest coupled with some frustrating half tank crashes due to broken bulbs. I am now back into it heavy due to cutting my tank volume in half. It made things manageable and fun again.

I suggested putting my name in for VP or P because of my renewed interest. Con't...

[kynan]

I can offer leadership and enthusiasm for the club and hobby only to the extent that it is reflected in kind. I can't commit to hours on end of investment behind the scene potentially by the BOD or myself. There really needs to be more collaboration for this club to be self sustaining. It can't be a wait and see BOD proposition for every meeting. The BOD needs to have a non threatened self perception of membership leadership. More later...

[BfishLpond78]

Keeping on topic of this thread, "Official Nominations for CTARS BOD", after speaking with Mike "BfishLpond78" I would like to nominate him for public relations officer. He has some very good ideas and is willing to help out the club with the responsibilities of the pr officer. I believe he will do a great job!

I will accept this nomination. I appreciate the kind words and thinking of me. I do have some nice ideas, whether or not I become part of the BOD I will still offer the ideas.


sent from never never land...

[Munchie1976]

No worries...as was stated long ago, these bylaws NEED to be updated and cleaned up. They aren't bad, but they also aren't great.

Your case is a perfect example. It doesn't state in the bylaws that a family membership gets more than one vote. I guess we could take that further and if I wanted to have my wife and two kids vote I could...giving me 4 votes for my $20 vs. someone else getting one vote for their $20. Why should I get more votes than someone else, that isn't fair???? Amending the bylaws will help clear this up for future people.

Furthermore, same household and same family are two different things. Husband, wife, child should be covered under family. Boyfriends/girlfriends living under the same household shouldn't be, but again this is not addressed in the bylaws what is considered "family".


Agreed on most points. Family is what you make of it. If two people have been together for a number of years who's to say they are not a family just because they are not married? If they share an address we should not discriminate.

My children are listed on the CTARS website as members as well but, unless they were avid members that went to regular meetings (and held a card) I wouldn't expect them to vote. Chris and I have four children together, that would be a total of six votes for our family and who do you think our 11 year olds would vote for not knowing some of these people? lol!

[ShawnMarie]

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnken
I was considering joining this club as a paid member, but after reading each and every post in this thread, I will not become a paying member. It seems like the bylaws are interpreted as each individual sees fit.
Looks like things are not done fairly in this club.
pls stay tuned, if i have to fix this so be it. there might be some unhappy people involved but, they will held accountable.
**************

Originally Posted by FroMan
What is your reasoning?

The online system gives all members the opportunity to vote. Whether they are able to attend a club members or not. It also mistakes proofs counting ballets and removes the possibility of other election related issues.
***************

I paid for my membership through PayPal @ $20.00. (which I assumed was for Just me.
I also have a bit of knowledge about clubs, BOD, and the running of clubs and what it takes to do so. My husband is a club Pres for a local club, and has been so on and off for the past 20 yrs. (In his club they can only hold a seat for 2 yrs at a time.) Their fee is set for a single person and an additional $10 for family membership. The commitment needed and the passion to engage all members (which is most important) is a very labor intensive thing. Working with sponsors, the public and other organizations adds to it. He also has about 200 members. They have a web site also. However they do not vote on line. If someone is interested in the club, they way it is run and by whom they would make to effort to vote at the meeting designated for it.

I will be waiting for my user name and password.

Thanks, Shawn

[Rwinfrey]

Mike I would be happy to work with you if you are elected setting up sponsers and such...

[suicideissleep]

Same here mike

[kynan]

I agree with swanny that people need to relax and that it is just a reef club the chief product being the happiness and satisfaction of membership.

As I said before in my professional life I manage ~ 180 professional and paraprofessional staff. The environment is high stress. The field work is hard. I always marvel when my staff make the work inside the building much harder than outside. This is despite a resounding commitment to the work.

Leading the office can be exhausting on many fronts. Leading the club is an intriguing proposition but the bottom line is I don't have an interest managing BS by day and then managing potentially the same sort of BS on a volunteer level on my free time. I realize there will be occasional tiffs but I would like to rescind my interest and I think nomination if there's no interest in developing a common community of collaboration where the by laws are in the background and not needing continual reference to get things done and done right.

I would like to keep my name in the running for president if people have interest in becoming and shaping the best reef club in the northeast, one that can be a model for others. I have the confidence that can happen. It is up to everyone here to make that happen, not just whoever gets elected to the BOD. Embedded in this thread is a lot of good stuff. Lets agree to swing it back to the positive as ****ing in our collective reef tank causes everything about us to RTN.

[kynan]

Oops double post.

[BfishLpond78]

Mike I would be happy to work with you if you are elected setting up sponsers and such...

Sounds good sir, spoke with Icy nothing but awesome things to say about you...either way I think the PR position benefits from a couple people branching out into certain areas. Either way we'll get it done...share ideas and work with each other for the common good

sent from never never land...

[Rwinfrey]

Agreed I think there should be a local guy and a commercial guy

[osrascom]

A debate is a debate thats all nothing to get excited or ****ed about. Before people think of leaving or not joining, wait to see how the 2013 BOD is. Dont jump the gun. At the November meeting why dont you have each nominee get and say a few words what there goals would be in 2013 and why they should have that position.

[Sandia97]

Just want to say to anyone who is hesitant on joining the club, PLEASE don't use this thread as a representation of the club experience. I've only been a member for a year but I can assure you when the focus is on the hobby (which is 99% of the time) everyone is extremely helpful, generous and team oriented. I will renew my membership regardless of the bickering because I know when it's all said and done the people here make it all worth while!
Carrion...

[Gobey]

This enthusiasm is great to see. This is a great club and change can be a good thing. This past year was a good year and I must say thank you to my fellow board members for your time and efforts. These are all volunteer positions. Simply coordinating the board members' personal schedules to have meetings was difficult. And...I still think that the conference rocked despite hurricane Sandy's influence.

I second the nomination of FroMan for Treasurer. Mario has experience with CTARS and I have seen his CMAC spreadsheets to organize the raffle prizes, vendor information, etc.

I DO NOT have the skill set required to be a good treasurer. I cannot attend the meetings on a regular basis, therefore, I cannot be the treasurer any longer. I was an amazing president. :eek: Kidding folks - relax!

I'm VERY happy to see that someone raised their hand to be the treasurer. Mario, you have my full support going into 2013 to transition the CTARS financial documentation to the new board.

[rjmurd]

Ha!!! Glad this is first page of this thread I've read so I have no idea what the issues are and why people are angry.

So on that note, I have been member of this club for a couple years, love the meetings, some really generous members, this years CMAC, the info, and the free frags Ive gotten along with some sweet deals from other members.

I dont know why people are mad, but the club is worth a measley 20$

[Gobey]

rjmurd,

You'll have a PM shortly :thumbsup:

-Rich

[diablo243]

Hey everyone, I know I threw my hat into the pot offering help from the website side, I also have a great deal of experience from the PR side and would help whomever becomes board member. So with that said I had a little down time and threw this together for club members and potential BOD members to check out and see what I have to offer as well as what the club site could be. PLEASE keep in mind, this is about 30 mins of work and ALL the verbiage in it is demo verbiage so please don't get hung up on anything but the fact that we could be doing something a little different than what we are doing now. Enjoy...

http://ctars.squidinkmm.com/

[frankyrivera]

Wow!...

[BfishLpond78]

I like it!

sent from never never land...

[frankyrivera]

Nice

[Rwinfrey]

That is great a lot of info easy to browse around -----nice

[Rwinfrey]

Remember the bigger we are the more pull we have getting donations and bigger names will come to CMAC .....

[hans1976]

diablo243, nice job!

Eric has asked me to let the members know why online voting came about and putting the financials on the web came about. So here goes.

The club used to be big - 275+ members. We have several stores and store owners that were sponsors and members. We would have 75 - 100 people at a meeting. That meant that we still had upwards of 200 not at any one meeting. For what ever reason, some people were just members to help support the club. Others could not make it on Sunday's. So to give everyone a voice, we created the On-Line voting. Does that mean it has to remain that way? Absolutely not, there is nothing in the bylaws that requires it..

To the monthly Financials, I don't recall giving them being presented monthly. But I did give the quarterly. As I recall, they were high level, starting balance, how much we took in, and what we paid out. As most people know, Rich has been the Treasurer for years. He can't attend monthly meeting because of family obligations, which I was ok with, I was great full to get someone to accept the position. Being that I am an accountant/financial analyst, there was not the fear that we were going to get into legal trouble and I always knew what the financial status of the club and who was paid for what. So any time a member wanted to know a detail, I could answer it. And like the voting, we put the quarterly balances on the web for all members to see, not just the ones that attend meetings. Absolutely not, there is nothing in the bylaws requiring it.

[Rwinfrey]

Thanks Jeff

[BfishLpond78]

Very interesting...how many paid members do we currently have now?

sent from never never land...

[Rwinfrey]

99 last month

[Chriskid]

Hey everyone, I know I threw my hat into the pot offering help from the website side, I also have a great deal of experience from the PR side and would help whomever becomes board member. So with that said I had a little down time and threw this together for club members and potential BOD members to check out and see what I have to offer as well as what the club site could be. PLEASE keep in mind, this is about 30 mins of work and ALL the verbiage in it is demo verbiage so please don't get hung up on anything but the fact that we could be doing something a little different than what we are doing now. Enjoy...

http://ctars.squidinkmm.com/

VERY NICE, i love it, and a doer not a talker. love your work, simple,yet easy to navigate, a nice updated clean approach. :beer:

[Chriskid]

Just want to say to anyone who is hesitant on joining the club, PLEASE don't use this thread as a representation of the club experience. I've only been a member for a year but I can assure you when the focus is on the hobby (which is 99% of the time) everyone is extremely helpful, generous and team oriented. I will renew my membership regardless of the bickering because I know when it's all said and done the people here make it all worth while!
Carrion...

so true, some things just need to be address, the members are great,and most will give the shirt off there back to help. politics are ALWAYS ugly to hear,watch,or read.

also why has diablo243 not been utilized in the last few years? its my understanding he has been offering in the past. and if its money again, a good running club will have more of it. i know more frags,and cash from me will flow in.

[diablo243]

I just joined recently that's why, but am here now! Thanks for all the positive feedback everyone.

[Chriskid]

I just joined recently that's why, but am here now! Thanks for all the positive feedback everyone.

well, im game:) what is the cost,compared to the current?

[trstange]

My Two Cents

1) Reefing and the Reef Club are suppose to be fun and relaxing- a hobby to take your mind off of work and the stresses of life. It's not a fortune 500 company but a club for people with a glass box that holds corals and fish that enthusiasts want to keep happy and healthy. It is run by volunteers who take time away from their lives to give everyone else a place to go to enjoy learning and sharing with like minded people. It is supposes to be fun and educational.

2) As a former board member, I know how much time someone puts into keeping the club running smoothly. Anyone running for a position should be prepared to put in at least five to ten hours weekly on club business. Please assess your lifestyle and be sure you can donate the time required. Keep in mind paragraph 1.

3) Voting. This is the 21st century. I like online voting, It gives everyone a chance to cast a ballot. Some of us can't make the Sunday meetings, should that keep us from voting? After reading the posts in this thread I feel that a Twenty dollar membership buys one vote. So to the person that paid forty dollars for two memberships should have two votes. If someone can't vote online, accommodations can and should be made. An email, snail mail, smoke signals, etc. should all be good.

4) Bylaws. As a 501c Non Profit organization we need to do things to keep the government happy. In my opinion, writing down just enough to keep the government happy is good. When dealing with the government the more you write down the more chance you have of making an error. Our office is not on wall street, we're a reef club.

When Rich was President, I sat on the board. We took the club from 66 members to 160+ (give or take a few), Did we make mistakes? Sure we did. Did we keep everyone happy? Not on our best day. We did put in time, dedicated effort and worked for the good of the group. Did we have fun doing it? Yes we did- and I think the majority of our membership did too.

I hope everyone keeps in mind the reasons the club was formed and I wish the best of luck to the future Board of Directors and a hardy thank you to the outgoing Board.

[Pallobi]

I think given a lot of concerns listed in this thread by various members about various club aspects, that the paragraph #2 above should be given great consideration by those considering running for a position...

[trstange]

so true, some things just need to be address, the members are great,and most will give the shirt off there back to help. politics are ALWAYS ugly to hear,watch,or read.

also why has diablo243 not been utilized in the last few years? its my understanding he has been offering in the past. and if its money again, a good running club will have more of it. i know more frags,and cash from me will flow in.

Our current webmaster volunteers his time to keep the website up and running. There are no paid positions.

[diablo243]

My fee is ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS... Muhhhuhhhhahahhhahhhhh....

[Rwinfrey]

You forgot the pinky to the mouth

[erbgo]

Trstange
You say so much you understand and some people dont understand it is a time consuming JOB it is unpaid and yes I did the best I could do. Did I make everyone happy not by a long shot did the club grow yes, the new board took over with 80 paid members and now it is over 120 I am thankful for people like you. I will remain a paying member because this club is good and the $20, I have saved that in the knowledge that I got from the members that kept me from killing my whole tank.
To the body we are still looking for a Secretary it is not a hard job but it takes time notes need to be taken and put into a form that we can archive it so we can go back and see what was done and said. so if there is someone that thinks they or someone they know can do it please let us know Thanks

[diablo243]

And I demand a frickin laser beam for my clown fishes head!

[suicideissleep]

And I demand a frickin laser beam for my clown fishes head!

Roflmao wow

[icycoral]

And I demand a frickin laser beam for my clown fishes head!

We could probobly make that laser clown fish thing happen lol ;)
But seriously, good job on that demo! We will have to look into you possibly redoing the site. I have ots of questions about stuff llike upkeep and updating of the site, moderation, bod forum, bringing back totm, and also user names and passwords. But I like it what I see!

[charleneatkins]

My fee is ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS... Muhhhuhhhhahahhhahhhhh....

Since you did not specify what currency, I'll check to market rates:bounce3:

want to keep the records accurate for this year and maybe next

[Chriskid]

My fee is ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS... Muhhhuhhhhahahhhahhhhh....

well you would need a few more bells and whistles...lol

i also know he dose it for nothing ,however some nicer websites cost money,i think... you know that. just asking.

[sweet d]

who has current nominations for the positions just wondering?

[FroMan]

who has current nominations for the positions just wondering?

As far as it stands there will be no election as there are no people running against each other as far as I can tell. Let me know if I missed anything:

Pres only kynan
VP only icycorals
Sec NO ONE
Treasurer FroMan
PR maybe BfishLpond78

Keith

[diablo243]

well you would need a few more bells and whistles...lol

i also know he dose it for nothing ,however some nicer websites cost money,i think... you know that. just asking.

Did I mention the website I built on a solid gold computer!? And that solid gold computer has 18 bells and 43 whistles all made of gold as well!?!?!?

I hear ya, yes this is my livelihood but I would offer up my time to help out the club, the help and advice I've gotten here in such a short amount of time makes me want to give back to help benefit everyone.

Despite the politics in this post anyone considering this club can take it from me when it comes to asking or needing help, no politics get I the way of the members here giving!

[Rwinfrey]

Morio just so the rules are followed can Eric nominate seeing as he is prez. If he can't officially you would need someone else to nominate you...just making sure I don't mean to offend

[Chriskid]

Morio just so the rules are followed can Eric nominate seeing as he is prez. If he can't officially you would need someone else to nominate you...just making sure I don't mean to offend

this is what i mean, if the answer is to "just do things the way they have been" then it dosent matter. however it wouldn't be binding.

[erbgo]

Morio just so the rules are followed can Eric nominate seeing as he is prez. If he can't officially you would need someone else to nominate you...just making sure I don't mean to offend

yes I can in fact the BOD can nominate an entire BOD and then ask the members if the have anyone else they would like to nominate
so Yes I can and did

[Rwinfrey]

Thanks for clairifiing

[erbgo]

Thanks for clairifiing

Not a prob Bob

[BfishLpond78]

FroMan, I accepted the nomination for PR

sent from never never land...

[erbgo]

ok so we have acceptance for all positions we are still in need of a Secretary do we have any nominations

[sdheath]

FroMan, I accepted the nomination for PR

The PR position isn't elected, but rather appointed by the board of directors. That said, I thing you'd be a good candidate for the incoming board to consider.

[sweet d]

ok so we have acceptance for all positions we are still in need of a Secretary do we have any nominationsill volunter if you need someone for the position

[BfishLpond78]

The PR position isn't elected, but rather appointed by the board of directors. That said, I thing you'd be a good candidate for the incoming board to consider.

Oh gotcha...lol

Thanks Steve, I appreciate the kind words.

sent from never never land...

[erbgo]

ill volunter if you need someone for the position

Did you read what is entailed for the position

[Rwinfrey]

Sdheath if that's true I think they should appoint a team and if that's done I would be happy to be on that team........

[sweet d]

Did you read what is entailed for the position

yup

[erbgo]

I nominate sweet d for the position of secretory

[argi]

I nominate sweet d for the position of secretory

I second that.

[charleneatkins]

this year has been a trying and learning experience for all.

I would not mind staying secretary but I want to have a few things in the open first.

I AM NOT GOING TO POINT FINGERS AT ANYONE. We are a combined BOD. You cannot see all the resolve and dedication people have put into this.
They are not looking for a "pat on the back", they do it for the benefit of the club.


With the next term I would like:
1. the minutes should be posted to the forum, I have always brought them to the meetings

2. open communication

3. transparency

4. committees formed

5. change of meeting locations, regardless of how many may attend

6. make a date on the forum to re-start tank of the and other functions.... and follow thru

there are more but this is for starters


If I am re-elected to secretary post, If I feel I am not getting the communication I need in a timely manner, I WILL POST!

I will not roll over and play dead any longer. I saw and watched. My mentors came from outside the BOD.

Everyone has trouble accepting critiicism, including me, but if you have an opinion.. great voice it but also be ready to help find a solution.

I did intend to start up a new flurry of debates but did want to put an understanding of what I expect and what should be expected from me.


Sincerely,
Charlene Atkins

[suicideissleep]

this year has been a trying and learning experience for all.

I would not mind staying secretary but i want to have a few things in the open first.

I am not going to point fingers at anyone. We are a combined bod. You cannot see all the resolve and dedication people have put into this.
They are not looking for a "pat on the back", they do it for the benefit of the club.


With the next term i would like:
1. The minutes should be posted to the forum, i have always brought them to the meetings

2. Open communication

3. Transparency

4. Committees formed

5. Change of meeting locations, regardless of how many may attend

6. Make a date on the forum to re-start tank of the and other functions.... And follow thru

there are more but this is for starters


if i am re-elected to secretary post, if i feel i am not getting the communication i need in a timely manner, i will post!

I will not roll over and play dead any longer. I saw and watched. My mentors came from outside the bod.

Everyone has trouble accepting critiicism, including me, but if you have an opinion.. Great voice it but also be ready to help find a solution.

I did intend to start up a new flurry of debates but did want to put an understanding of what i expect and what should be expected from me.


Sincerely,
charlene atkins

+1 :)

[icycoral]

I would like to nominate a couple people for secretary position on the bod.

First I would like to re-nominate Charlene. She put in a lot of hard work this year, attended every meeting, and has lots of devotion and dedication to the club and hobby.

Also I would like to nominate Steve Heath. He has served on our bod in the past knows what it takes to keep the club going and I feel he would also make a good secretary for the club.

Would anybody like to second these nominations?

[charleneatkins]

as far as a bio goes, look at my stats on RC. That will tell you what type of person I am

[gmate]

This is my first year in the hobby and the first thing I did was find my local reef club and join. That was November of 2011. I paid my 20 dollar dues without asking questions. For what it's worth and from what I remember, not until I contacted Greg was I offered a password for the website and I was never sent a copy of the bylaws. I received my card in the mail in a regular white envelope several weeks later. I'm not picky though, I don't care. I paid my dues. I ask nothing of this club. I have never gone to a meeting because Sundays are not a day I have off, but I continue to offer whatever I can to other members. I'd say I've met about fifteen people in the last year who are club members - a few for just a casual transaction, some for frags, and one or two have become really good friends. I will continue to pay my dues to support this hobby regardless of whether I can make it to meetings or not. I'm twenty two years old and by no means immature, but this bickering is ridiculous. We're all adults who are here voluntarily to do something we enjoy. If you aren't enjoying it anymore, fight to save it - but please don't ruin it for the rest of us.




I'd like to see the website updated.

I'd like to see meetings changed to a different day/time, but that is personal preference and may not be in the best interest of all members.

I'd like to see more local fish store influence in meetings and events, so we are bigger and more recognized. Let's get a "This store supports Connecticut Area Reef Society" sign behind each checkout counter at our sponsoring LFS to raise club awareness. If I strike up a conversation with somebody regarding the hobby, even those who have reef/FOWLR tanks, most don't usually know about the club unless they are already a member.

To the people here who are 'considering' joining, please don't take this thread as a discussion in negative light. This is a great club. If you can't see that from the other posts and threads on the Reef Central site, then I don't know what to tell you.



EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY! Build a better club :hammer:

[SteelerMike]

I would like to nominate a couple people for secretary position on the bod.

First I would like to re-nominate Charlene. She put in a lot of hard work this year, attended every meeting, and has lots of devotion and dedication to the club and hobby.

Also I would like to nominate Steve Heath. He has served on our bod in the past knows what it takes to keep the club going and I feel he would also make a good secretary for the club.

Would anybody like to second these nominations?

I second the nomination for Charlene. I don't know Steve, so I will let someone else give him a second :)

[FintasticCT]

I am a board member for a totally different type of non profit. The bylaws and/or constitution must be followed.

Does CTARS follow Robert's Rules when holding meetings? If not you should look into this.

Every year in November we must hold the annual membership meeting, this has to be done or it goes against the bylaws.

This membership meeting is the time and place to bring up all concerns about the clubs and for the nominations to be discussed. It should not be held in this open forum, where there are non members reading and possibly posting.

The annual membership meeting is also the time when the president discusses the current years information and addresses the financials of the organization.

So with that said I would ask everyone to just please use this thread only for nominations and only CTARS members make those nominations.