SPS and PE [Archive] - Reef Central Online Community

BfishLpond78

11/17/2012, 08:46 PM

I have a few pieces showing great PE and a few that are not showing any at all...ones showing PE...sunset monti, monti confusa, starburts cap, setosa and digitata..

Ones that are not...lime table, red planet, green slimer, teal stag, and MC bonsai...let me clarify...there is the tiniest amount of polyps showing...but you have to reallllly look...lol

Not sure whats going on...ill work on parameters now...

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kynan

11/17/2012, 09:15 PM

Look really really hard for red bugs.

BfishLpond78

11/17/2012, 09:52 PM

Well...I can't say for sure but I did see something small and reddish moving around on an coral...sooo I guess I need interceptor...

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Chriskid

11/17/2012, 10:13 PM

red bugs love tri colors the most, check hard and GL

BfishLpond78

11/17/2012, 10:16 PM

That's where I saw something...ill need to pick up a magnifying glass to confirm...so ****ed...I dip all my corals too...ugh...so where do I get interceptor?

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Chriskid

11/17/2012, 10:20 PM

hard to find nowadays. dip dosent kill eggs.

BubbaBoBobBrain

11/17/2012, 10:21 PM

You can try to explain your case at a vet but most won't even look at you when you ask. You could also ask around to anyone you know that has a dog as see if they have had a run in with heartworms. Good luck

BfishLpond78

11/17/2012, 10:23 PM

Good point...ugh...I don't understand why this isn't allowed for a treatment...or other companies can't sell this...unless its banned for other reasons

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swannyson7

11/18/2012, 05:48 AM

Well...I can't say for sure but I did see something small and reddish moving around on an coral...sooo I guess I need interceptor...

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Grab a magnifying glass to be sure before you go through the project of looking for interceptor. They're not really all that red despite what the name would lead you to believe. They're a pale yellow with a maroon dot at one end. I wouldn't doubt that it is RB though.... they seem to be getting more and more common as of late with Interceptor being so difficult to find. It seems like people are posting all over the boards about RB over the past few months. :headwally:

BfishLpond78

11/18/2012, 08:44 AM

Will do Scott.

So I talked with a friend who is a vet, they haven't gotten interceptor in months due to issues with manufacturer. So my question is, what other treatments are available that are effective?

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Pallobi

11/18/2012, 08:52 AM

Bayer insecticide... However u can not treat in tank... Go to the sps forum and do a little research...

swannyson7

11/18/2012, 09:50 AM

Bayer insecticide... However u can not treat in tank... Go to the sps forum and do a little research...
+1. Great for dips, but there aren't any other in tank treatments that I would trust as of yet.

BfishLpond78

11/18/2012, 09:53 AM

So I need a lesson...could you guys please give me a short tutorial on how to do this...how do you treat large colonies that have encrusted onto a rock?

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shayna123

11/18/2012, 10:00 AM

You can order interceptor from Australia.

BfishLpond78

11/18/2012, 10:03 AM

Thanks...I think this is what I need to get me to finally tear down the tank and redo it right

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BfishLpond78

11/18/2012, 12:48 PM

Confirmed...all over my tri-color...

If anyone has any suggestions or direction on how to use the bayer dip it would be appreciated...or any links to instructions would work too

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Dakman

11/18/2012, 12:50 PM

i've dealt with these alot in the past (got tons of pics of all kinds of pest) and like you my SPS were encrusted on the rock. It sucks but you have to chisel them out to get a good dip on them. If you can get ahold of the interceptor you could try Coral RX. I've had success with it on random corals that had the bugs when i was treating for AEFW, but I have to say I've never used it just to treat for an infestation of the RBs. Like everyone says use a magnifing glass to check if thats what they are or if you have a macro lens for your camera use that it makes it much easier i think.

Image of a case i had:
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2374/11822566/23327740/404683358.jpg

BfishLpond78

11/18/2012, 01:20 PM

Thanks Dakman...that's pretty much what I seen when the lights came on...Ohhh the joys of reefing

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frankyrivera

11/18/2012, 01:29 PM

Dude don't u have a dog go to your vet and ask for it for your dog don't even go the fish tank route

BfishLpond78

11/18/2012, 01:41 PM

Dude don't u have a dog go to your vet and ask for it for your dog don't even go the fish tank route

Tried that route Franky...if dog wasn't previously on interceptor for heart worms they will not prescribe. There is something going on with the manufacturer of the medication and my vet hasn't got it in months

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spjames

11/18/2012, 02:05 PM

There is good information here...

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2010/3/corals

Nuagedesigns

11/18/2012, 06:51 PM

http://www.vetshopaustralia.com.au/interceptor-spectrum-C205.aspx

shecter

11/18/2012, 08:05 PM

ive got to question the legallity of ordering meds pet or otherwise from overseas that are perscribed only through a vet.

suicideissleep

11/18/2012, 09:39 PM

It's the same meds the vet orders it from over seas also

Pallobi

11/18/2012, 09:47 PM

U guys should be careful of the links you post here... Jus a heads up to save you some trouble with the mods...

Collinrb

11/18/2012, 09:54 PM

U guys should be careful of the links you post here... Jus a heads up to save you some trouble with the mods...
+1

Scroll down the link a bit more to find..

"We are unable to ship this product to customers in the USA."

Pallobi

11/18/2012, 10:04 PM

Also posted RC prohibit any sort of interceptor sales or sharing of sales or links... Best kept to pm ;)

swannyson7

11/19/2012, 07:30 AM

ive got to question the legallity of ordering meds pet or otherwise from overseas that are perscribed only through a vet.

+1. It's a controlled med within the US requiring a prescription. I'd imagine that ordering it online without a script and having it imported to the US would be illegal. I'd be surprised if the company would even ship to the US because it would likely land both of you in hot water with Customs if the contents were discovered.

BfishLpond78

11/19/2012, 07:49 AM

Yea I figured there maybe some issues with the across the pond ordering.

Life is a joy!!! Lol

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ReefingIt

11/19/2012, 12:14 PM

BFishLpond78, you got pm'd.

BfishLpond78

11/19/2012, 12:47 PM

PM Returned

Just so everyone knows...the last frags I bought were not from anyone local on these boards. I'm also not sure of the incubation period of RB's so previous purchases cannot be taken into account.

If someone could shed some light on the life cycle of these buggers I would appreciate it, and before someone decides to bash me cause of not researching ever last detail before asking a question, I am asking in an attempt to spread knowledge from TRUSTED sources. I will begin my own research shortly after the post. All too often people get scolded for not having a PH.D in reefing. I would love to go to other forums and search what people say, but sometimes that person doesnt know their arsh from their elbow and you can be getting some bum information. So since I can tie a name to a face and a face to a tank I get a feeling of comfort asking you all here who know my story.

Thanks and happy reefing.

Mike

spjames

11/19/2012, 02:10 PM

Mike, did you read the link I gave you on page 1 - it's from advanced aquarist (Dana Riddle) which is a HIGHLY TRUSTED source.

Hope it helps.

BfishLpond78

11/19/2012, 02:13 PM

Mike, did you read the link I gave you on page 1 - it's from advanced aquarist (Dana Riddle) which is a HIGHLY TRUSTED source.

Hope it helps.

Sorry spjames that was not directed at you or anyone in particular...I'm just not a fan when someone posts a question and they get badges at not being an expert. I didn't get a chance to read it. And I def appreciate the link

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Chriskid

11/19/2012, 04:54 PM

the life cycle of these pests is 7days. hatched critters will lay new eggs in 7 or less days,hence treatment once a week a min of 2 times.(all i ever needed).

BfishLpond78

11/19/2012, 08:32 PM

the life cycle of these pests is 7days. hatched critters will lay new eggs in 7 or less days,hence treatment once a week a min of 2 times.(all i ever needed).

Thanks Chris...I'm trying to pinpoint when I could have introduced the pest into the tank.

Are we allowed to talk about treatment for interceptor if we have the medication?

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Chriskid

11/19/2012, 09:13 PM

nearly imposible... but in a good week they can multiply faster then one might think.

spjames

11/19/2012, 09:28 PM

Sorry spjames that was not directed at you or anyone in particular...I'm just not a fan when someone posts a question and they get badges at not being an expert. I didn't get a chance to read it. And I def appreciate the link

NP Mike, I didn't take it that way anyway, just want to try and help you solve the problem with what little knowledge I do have :)

BfishLpond78

11/19/2012, 09:46 PM

Are we allowed to discuss treatment using interceptor or is that frowned upon as well? As my only other solution would be to bayer dip everything and that doesn't seem to be as effective as I could miss certain corals and the RB just resurface later.

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Chriskid

11/19/2012, 10:04 PM

pm sent hope it helps...its short:)lol

swannyson7

11/20/2012, 02:21 AM

http://www.melevsreef.com/redbugs.html

Chriskid

11/20/2012, 07:30 AM

http://www.melevsreef.com/redbugs.html

lol thats what i sent him... very good page:)

BfishLpond78

11/20/2012, 07:38 AM

Thanks all, I read through the Melevs Reef, very good article. Hoping I can get back on track soon as my tricolor, Red Planet, Lime Table, Teal Stag have been losing color and PE...i can only really see them on my Tricolor...but all SPS are on the same rock structure so I am guessing they are all affected.

Chriskid

11/20/2012, 08:33 AM

i have a tri color in the front of my reef for the sole reason of thats my telling coral. iven though im currently free of these little buggers, i still look everyday at that tricolor. ive danced many times with them, and still chose them over flats and monti nuddis...lol:)

BfishLpond78

11/20/2012, 08:48 AM

I def agree that it is the easier of the pests to deal with...but obviously as my first real threat I'm going to treat it like doomsday....lol

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swannyson7

11/20/2012, 08:49 AM

Agreed, RB are a breeze, but I have my tell tale coral as well. I have a turaki that is always the first to get infested. It's a nice light base, so the RB contrast well enough that you can't miss them.

BfishLpond78

11/20/2012, 08:53 AM

Chriskid

11/20/2012, 08:54 AM

I def agree that it is the easier of the pests to deal with...but obviously as my first real threat I'm going to treat it like doomsday....lol

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it is a wake up call.....lol
more of a warning shot.lol

Pallobi

11/20/2012, 08:58 AM

Nice...I was thinking of borrowing my buddies camera and taking a super macro photo of the bugs and submit it for the red and green photo contest...lol...a little Xmas reef humor

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If you have the ability to do this, you should as it will help to educate local reefers in the area and club, especially those who don't look elsewhere for info and insight... I don't believe we have much info in this forum as far as pics...