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tracyclifton
11/24/2012, 09:13 AM
I got my Red Sea Mg, Kh, and Ca tests. All my other parameters are good. I did a test yesterday and another today following the videos from Red Sea. My results are - Mg 1400, Kh 3.7/10.4, and Ca 355. I know the Ca is low, but what is the consensus on the other two? My coralline is growing great, my few mushroom corals are growing and have increased a little. I don't have any other coral yet but I am working toward them that is why I started this testing. My plan is to change from the regular salt water mix to the reef mix and do a water change tomorrow. I hope that this will begin to increase the Ca level. By the way, my snails and hermits seem to be in very good health to this point. Any suggestions?

All6Fish
11/24/2012, 09:16 AM
I would add calcium until it reaches 450........

tracyclifton
11/24/2012, 09:43 AM
Can I do this by using the Instant Ocean Calcium booster? All the other products I looked at indicate they increase Kh and Mg, which I don't think I need. The Instant ocean just increases Ca according to their instructions.

All6Fish
11/24/2012, 09:48 AM
Thats fine.....You can see where I keep my tanks. I have it listed below.

dan_k
11/24/2012, 09:48 AM
Brs sells a great 2 part very easy to use I would look into that. IMO your dkh is a little high

tracyclifton
11/24/2012, 09:52 AM
I want to get it locally so I will see what I can find today. What affect will increasing the Ca have on the Kh? If the Kh is high, how do I reduce it? Thanks.

coralsnaked
11/24/2012, 10:53 AM
Below 350 and your snail's shells will start melting away

All6Fish
11/24/2012, 04:39 PM
Calcium is a building block on the reef and is essential. Many corals, invertebrates etc depend on it.

Let’s discuss parameters first, then look at how calcium can be provided.

It is generally accepted that in a home marine reef aquarium a calcium reading between 350ppm and 450ppm is acceptable. A calcium level in the aquarium which is higher than 550ppm will normally precipitate out of solution. This means the water becomes calcium saturated and no more can be held. Because of the water being saturated the calcium forms calcium carbonate. This is not a state of affairs that we realistically want.

If [tag-tec]calcium[/tag-tec] is not added to an aquarium for whatever reasons levels will fall as the animals use what is available. Within reason, having calcium levels at a low level is not a threat to the animals which depend upon it. These animals however will not thrive. For this reason (as with all water parameters) it is best to maintain a stable and adequate reading.

There are various ways to add calcium to the water. In this post I will attempt to cover the most common methods.

Water changes

This has to be the easiest and simplest method there is to replace calcium along with other trace elements. Using this method does depend on what you keep in the aquarium. If you keep a large number of calcium loving organisms, such as hard corals, then you may need to investigate other additional alternatives.

If you keep, for example, soft corals then this method may be acceptable. If you do decide to use this method, (remembering that water changes should be done in any case), then I would recommend that you use artificial salt which is ‘high’ in calcium (check the package description). Another point to remember is that if you use reverse osmosis water, obtain artificial salt which has been designed for use with reverse osmosis water.

To check the calcium levels of the replacement water simply test with a calcium test kit.

Kalkwasser

Kalkwasser, otherwise known as limewater, is actually calcium hydroxide. Kalkwasser is a very fine powder and is normally introduced to the aquarium with the top-up water. There are realistically two methods to add kalkwasser to the aquarium, these are by a ‘kalk reactor’ or by what is called the drip method.

The drip method is where the kalkwasser is mixed with some prepared top-up water. It is important when mixing kalkwasser that it be mixed slowly, the reason for this is that it is imperative that as little air as possible gets into the top-up water. If too much air gets into the water then the kalkwasser will turn into calcium carbonate. Once the top-up water is prepared it should be left to sit for 2-3 hours so that any sediment can settle to the bottom of the container. The mixture which is left above the sediment is what will be introduced to the aquarium. It is best to siphon this mixture out and dispose of the sediment. After the mixture has been siphoned out it is ready for use.

The [tag-tec]kalkwasser reactor[/tag-tec] is where kalkwasser is introduced into a sealed chamber, within this chamber is a stirring device which mixes the kalkwasser and water. Water is pumped into the reactor normally by the use of a dosing/peristaltic pump and this water, because of pressure forces water rich in kalkwasser into the aquarium.

Obviously the kalk reactor is easier than the manual method but both methods do work. Let’s move on to dosing methods.

It is important when dosing kalkwasser not to dose it quickly. The reason is that water mixed with kalkwasser is of a very high pH. Therefore introducing it too quickly can alter the pH level of the aquarium water. To get round this problem you could either use a pH monitor to control the kalk reactor, or drip the mixture into the aquarium at a rate of about 1 drip per second (always drip into a high flow area).

There are both advantages and disadvantage in using kalkwasser in an aquarium. The disadvantages are two fold. One is that if you do not use a kalk reactor it takes time to mix the solution, the other is that because of the kalkwasser being added with the top up water you may not be able to introduce enough to maintain a steady level of calcium. The advantage, though, is that kalkwasser is very rich in calcium and can, if used correctly, maintain a high level.

Calcium Additives

Calcium additives are used in aquariums which do not have very many calcium demanding life forms, or where a small tank is used. For example you probably would not be able to maintain an adequate calcium level in a heavily stocked SPS tank using this method – that is unless you are willing to spend a lot of money on lots of bottles!

The use of calcium additives is quite simple. Normally on the top of the bottle is a measuring device, often the lid itself, and you simply add a certain amount of liquid dependant upon the net gallons of water in the aquarium.

Calcium additives are useful alongside water changes. If you are not able to maintain an adequate level by performing water changes alone then you can add extra calcium using additives.

There is another type of calcium additive on the market which is not liquid but in powder form. This powder is mixed into some salt water and added to the aquarium in a high flow area, keeping away from corals etc.

Another calcium additive is called a balanced additive. This is a two part additive where you can add calcium with one and maintain alkalinity with the other.

Follow the manufacturer’s instructions on any additive. These will include a given amount of calcium and how much it will raise the level in ‘X’ gallons. Always make any increases slow, never adjust in one go.

Calcium Reactor

This is the method of choice for most reef keepers who keep calcium dependant organisms and/or have medium to large aquariums.

I am not saying that you definitely require one of these devices. It depends on what you are keeping. I would recommend that you try the water change and calcium additive method first. If you are struggling to maintain calcium levels in your aquarium, or the cost of additives is excessive, consider this method.

How does a [tag-tec]calcium reactor[/tag-tec] work?

A calcium reactor is a device which holds calcium carbonate (suitable media is commercially produced and easily obtained. It comes in granular form.). The media is slowly dissolved and releases calcium, and more, into the water.

The reactor is a sealed unit. Water is pumped slowly into the reactor, and is circulated within the reactor by a built-in pump. The calcium carbonate will not dissolve at the pH levels of the water in the aquarium, therefore carbon dioxide (CO2) is injected into the reactor. This CO2 lowers the pH within the reactor to levels of about 6.5 to 6.8 and the media slowly dissolves. The resulting mix can then be supplied slowly into the aquarium.

It should be noted that it depends upon the calcium media used as to what pH level the water needs to be for the media to dissolve. Also dependant upon the choice of media is what other elements will be supplied into the water.

The main advantage of this device is that it provides the easiest way to add calcium to the aquarium. Once a calcium reactor is installed and setup correctly, it can maintain high levels of calcium. Maintenance is simple. One check that must be made daily is the rate of injection of CO2. Excessive injection could allow excess acidity to affect the aquarium water (also dissolving the calcium media too quickly).

The initial cost of the calcium reactor, plus the CO2 bottle and control, has to be the biggest disadvantage. However, once the purchase has been made the running costs are minimal.

tracyclifton
11/24/2012, 07:40 PM
Thanks All6fish, that was a great explanation. Before I read that, I picked up some of the Instant Ocean and some new salt mix. I am mixing a 10% water change right now and plan a water change tomorrow. I use RO/DI water and mix everything myself. I added 20ml of the Instant Ocean to the tank today per the instructions. I will test the water after the water change tomorrow to see if I have a slight increase in calcium. If not, I will go from there with water changes and adding the Instant Ocean since I already have it. If I can't get the levels to where they need to be, and remain, before I am ready for corals, then I guess I will look into a better method. I'll post my test results tomorrow. Thanks.

tracyclifton
11/25/2012, 03:12 PM
Up to 365. I'll keep adding the calcium.

bnumair
11/25/2012, 03:31 PM
cal has the most accepted range of 380-460. rest looks fine.

tracyclifton
11/30/2012, 09:37 AM
Calcium is up to 385. I am increasing it slowly even though I don't think it is necessary.