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emilypres
03/17/2013, 09:02 PM
I started out with a green bubble tip anemone. I then added a true percula clownfish and a week later added another percula clown. Neither one will host the anemone, is there a trick to this or should i just give it time? Also when i first put my green bubble tip in my tank it bubbled right up and was beautiful. Now it doesn't bubble up at all, is there a trick to bubble tips bubbling? Do water parameters matter?

velvetelvis
03/18/2013, 10:04 AM
1) Not really. Some clowns never go into an anemone, but many of them will after a while. Patience is key.

2) Bubbletips don't always bubble. Their tentacles can change shape throughout the day. No one is sure why they bubble at some times and not at others, and why there's such variation.

3) Water parameters are absolutely crucial to the health of an anemone, but I don't think they have an effect on the shape of the tentacles. I have two RBTAs that are clones from the same "mother" anemone. One tends to display bubbled tentacles often, while the other usually displays long, thin tentacles. They're in the same aquarium; the only difference is that the "bubbled" anemone is a few inches higher in the rockwork.

sako818
03/18/2013, 01:23 PM
ive had my anemone for about 4 months and my clowns dont host it either

Gary Majchrzak
03/18/2013, 02:38 PM
have you tried the Barry White song? :facepalm:

cali9dub
03/18/2013, 03:05 PM
I leaned my iPad against the tank with a pic of clowns in an anemone after doing that for about 4 hours a day for 2 days...the third day..BOOM !! They jumped in the nem.

emilypres
03/19/2013, 12:28 PM
I leaned my iPad against the tank with a pic of clowns in an anemone after doing that for about 4 hours a day for 2 days...the third day..BOOM !! They jumped in the nem.

lol you serious? I am going to try this asap if this is for real.

Also, do any of you target feed your anemone's?

cali9dub
03/19/2013, 01:20 PM
lol you serious? I am going to try this asap if this is for real.


Yup.....for real. Maybe just coincidence but it worked.

jmadison
03/19/2013, 01:29 PM
I have never seen a clown host an anemone EVER!!! I believe it may be impossible.

Several of my anemones have hosted clowns though... :P

jmadison
03/19/2013, 01:30 PM
PS don't force it, even the mildly potent stings from a BTAs nematocysts can kill unacclimated clowns.

jscarlata
03/19/2013, 02:18 PM
i dont think that BTAs are a natural host of percula clowns...occelaris yes, percs no.
that being said, its not totally uncommon for them to go into e bta. you need patience, you cant force it. the picture thing may work, not sure, it takes time. i put a gigantea in my tank and it took a few months before my clown went in the nem...i didnt do anything, she just figured it out.

worm5406
03/19/2013, 02:24 PM
Yes put pictures of anemone in clown and video helps too.

That is why I have put up a few videos in the ritteri thread showing them together. Figured someone would snag one and let 'them' view it.

jmadison
03/19/2013, 02:24 PM
I read somewhere that clowns are attracted to nems by sense of smell. It is instinctual even for TB clowns. My clowns (percula) took to RBTA immediately(I beleive they were grown out in a tank with a bta variant of sorts) and IMMEDIATELY took to my gig after it was added. Even if it is "natural" host anemone to the clown in question, they still need time to acclimate to the nematocysts. Try not feeding the tank for a few days. Then shut off all the pumps and let the water get still. Then target feed the nem small bits of food and just let it sit. It will draw the attention of the clowns. They might slowly go and pick out the food and this will aid in the slow exposure to the new nem.

Ostara
03/19/2013, 03:05 PM
i dont think that BTAs are a natural host of percula clowns...occelaris yes, percs no.


Bubble tips (E. quadricolor) are not a natural host for percula or ocellaris.

That doesn't mean that they won't associate with the anemone though. It does mean that they could take a few days, months, or even years though. I've seen at least a half dozen people mention that their ocellaris or perculas took a year or two to associate with a BTA. Or, of course, they may never associate with it. The best options for people wanting clown/anemone pairs are to either buy ocellaris/perculas from a breeder who keeps them with quadricolors from a young age or to simply choose a species of clown and anemone that are found in association in nature. :)

Gary Majchrzak
03/19/2013, 03:15 PM
bubble tips (e. Quadricolor) are not a natural host for percula or ocellaris.

That doesn't mean that they won't associate with the anemone though. It does mean that they could take a few days, months, or even years though. I've seen at least a half dozen people mention that their ocellaris or perculas took a year or two to associate with a bta. Or, of course, they may never associate with it. The best options for people wanting clown/anemone pairs are to either buy ocellaris/perculas from a breeder who keeps them with quadricolors from a young age or to simply choose a species of clown and anemone that are found in association in nature. :)

we have a winner!

kabe87
03/19/2013, 03:23 PM
I guess Im one lucky fellow. My maroon hosted as soon as the anemone was put in the reef, almost instantly.

PD: Sorry... Yes mine are Maroon clown and BTA

weldon133
03/19/2013, 04:32 PM
I have been told that taping photos of clowns hosting in anemones to the sides of the tank would help "teach" a clown to host....but video idea is pretty cool.

Gary Majchrzak
03/19/2013, 05:03 PM
I have been told that taping photos of clowns hosting in anemones to the sides of the tank would help "teach" a clown to host....but video idea is pretty cool.actually... it's hilarious!

It's amazing what people will believe in a day and age when all the correct info is right there for the taking!

Ostara
03/19/2013, 09:37 PM
I guess Im one lucky fellow. My maroon hosted as soon as the anemone was put in the reef, almost instantly.

PD: Sorry... Yes mine are Maroon clown and BTA

That is because BTAs are the natural host for maroon clowns. :)

kabe87
03/20/2013, 09:00 AM
I felt sorry for the clown... It seemed as if she was waiting for the anemone ahah

D-Nak
03/20/2013, 12:14 PM
The natural hosts for percs are H. magnifica (Ritteri), H.crispa, and S. gigantea. You'll be shocked to see how quickly they'll take to these if introduced -- like cats to catnip (though using that same metaphor, a small population of cats are not attracted to catnip , and the same goes with percs and said hosts).

I've had both mags and gigs, and my percs couldn't wait for me to add them to the tank. I'm guessing they could smell the nem as soon as it hit the water. They were smothering the gig before it had a chance to acclimate. A year later they can't be separated from their host.

D-Nak
03/20/2013, 12:18 PM
BTW... only one thing happens when you show your clowns videos and photos... they laugh at you. :lolspin:

worm5406
03/20/2013, 04:35 PM
OK I made some clown/anemone porn for you to use.

I wanted to try out my new camera and how it recorded video.

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9GKYNDdcTZw" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="720" width="1280"></iframe>

What ya think??

Play it for them and see how they like it.

Ohh this is B porn.. It only shows a little bit. I will get you some better stuff later.

High deff is so much better too.

igarc009
03/21/2013, 11:38 AM
I have a BTA tank with four clowns in it 3 ocellaris and a perc for four months they paid no attention to any of the five nems. I heard online if you put the bta and the clown in the same bucket they will host. I had to move my tank. So during The move I put all the bta's and clowns in the same bucket within 5 mins all four were hosting all the nems they looked like they were having the time of there lives. Now that there back in the tank they only host when all the lights are out. Weird little guys

hillbillybjopkr
03/21/2013, 01:41 PM
so outta curosity....what is the natural hosting nem for perc's....i have 2 true percs and want to get the right anemone for them...the LTA I have is out because my porcelain crab took it over...and defends it relentlessly

Allmost
03/21/2013, 01:45 PM
im putting pics of fish pooping by the overflow box, in hopes of my fish learning from it and pooping by the overflow so it gets skimmed faster.

next, talking fish videos lol

worm5406
03/21/2013, 01:54 PM
On friday's I put up Nemo for them to watch and put a shot of vodka in the tank for them.

Allmost
03/21/2013, 01:56 PM
lol I bet ppl are gonna believe that and try it too lol

worm5406
03/21/2013, 01:57 PM
Carbon dosing...

Allmost
03/21/2013, 01:59 PM
Carbon dosing...

I meant the nemo part ;)

according to Snell's law the image in air after glass would be too distorted for the fish to even see :) also fish do not have their eyes right in front like we do to see the image :) but what does science know :)

worm5406
03/21/2013, 02:01 PM
Lets go scuba diving in an aquarium and find out.

G4546
03/21/2013, 02:04 PM
have you tried the Barry White song? :facepalm:

Kekekeke :D

Allmost
03/21/2013, 02:04 PM
Lets go scuba diving in an aquarium and find out.

na science and physics are wrong ... you win :)

hillbillybjopkr
03/21/2013, 02:05 PM
next, talking fish videos lol[/QUOTE]

LMAO...Finding Nemo on a loop..

wait don't do that....you may come home to find all your livestock rolling around the floor in plastic bags lol

567234ta
03/21/2013, 03:39 PM
any new clowns go into a clay pot first that i get. They become hosted by the pot, If i want them to go into an anemone i slowly move the pot closer to the anemone each day until the open side of the pot is right there with the anemone tentacles pretty much going in the pot. I guess there is no sure fire way but that's what i do when it seems like they wont take up residence and it always works for me.

worm5406
03/21/2013, 09:25 PM
Ahhh good idea... Did not think of that. I will have to phone a friend and let him try that.

Mikesville510
03/21/2013, 09:37 PM
I've tried this on two separate occasions and it worked both times. One time it was a pair of percs in a ritti anemone, the other was oscs in a long tentacle anemone.

Essentially I position the anemone at one end of the tank and gently herd the clowns toward the anemone with my hand, just enough for the clowns to graze the anemone. I do this for about 2-3 minutes, 4-5 times a day. I got both hosted by day 2.

I think this works because the clowns start to associate my hand as danger, triggering a defense mechanism which makes them want to seek out the anemone.

So yeah, if you're desperate, run out of ideas, or just out of patience my method aint bad.:)

hillbillybjopkr
03/21/2013, 10:14 PM
i hought about herding them toward the nem....only thing i was worried about was them gettin stung to bad by the anenome....then the damned porcalin crab took over.....thinkin need to get another nem.....we're gonna pick up a 29 nano here ina few days...have some idea's wify wants to try.....by the way...she's gone salt tank nuts....so ya should be interesting

Fish_Kid99
03/23/2013, 09:36 AM
Would a maroon clown host LTA even if it had already hosted Bubble Tip (it died from power outage)?

Sorry I dont want to hijack the thread but I figured that it would get answered quicker

Gary Majchrzak
03/23/2013, 10:12 AM
what species LTA?

Fish_Kid99
03/23/2013, 10:31 AM
what species LTA?

Umm...... Green? :hmm2: Macrodactyla doreensis is the scientific name. Not quite sure what you mean, though.

Gary Majchrzak
03/23/2013, 10:57 AM
Umm...... Green? :hmm2: Macrodactyla doreensis is the scientific name. Not quite sure what you mean, though.Macrodactyla doreensis is the species.

"LTA" is a generic non-specific nickname applied to many species of anemones.

I'm willing to bet your Premnas will go into Macrodactyla :)

Fish_Kid99
03/23/2013, 11:27 AM
Lol that makes so much sense!:lmao: