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sberman
03/24/2013, 02:42 PM
3rd day of treatment. No poops at all few more days and see
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/876448C5-775B-429A-B591-AA16BA75259C-10133-000002E2183A0525.jpg

Rotknee
03/24/2013, 04:26 PM
He looks good and is coming along well. What are you using for lighting while in quarantine?

Catchoftheday
03/24/2013, 04:31 PM
3rd day of treatment. No poops at all few more days and see
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/876448C5-775B-429A-B591-AA16BA75259C-10133-000002E2183A0525.jpg
Is this.from Ben

xtlosx
03/24/2013, 04:48 PM
that one looks about as bleached as my purple... within two months it has come back a LOT and has regained a whole bunch of Zoox. Good luck!

sberman
03/24/2013, 05:51 PM
thats a cell pic has some purple in it
just a t-5 on it dint want to shock it with to light at fist
and yes from ben

sberman
03/25/2013, 04:42 PM
Shrunk some should i be worried yet. Mouth still looks good still doing cipro 4th day
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/EE032EAC-EC6E-40C3-BD5B-032D31D3291A-13128-000003BB90E6DFE4.jpg

Catchoftheday
03/25/2013, 05:41 PM
Shrunk some should i be worried yet. Mouth still looks good still doing cipro 4th day
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/EE032EAC-EC6E-40C3-BD5B-032D31D3291A-13128-000003BB90E6DFE4.jpg

I Think you should be Ok it looks to be inflated 80% from my understanding when it is flat that is a bad sign . are you doing Cipro ?

sberman
03/25/2013, 06:34 PM
Yes doing the cipro today was the first day some black stuff came out so have to see from here

D-Nak
03/25/2013, 09:18 PM
Did the black stuff look stringy or was it more like rat poop (like black gravel)?

sberman
03/25/2013, 09:28 PM
More like rat poops not stringy at all

sberman
03/25/2013, 09:34 PM
Like this. More flat now but mouth still looks ok
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/9695E517-8242-480F-A588-7318B76EF834-13128-000003C5854271F8.jpg

sberman
03/25/2013, 09:43 PM
Might be stringy its mixed with some white stuff

sberman
03/25/2013, 09:44 PM
Just hope it pulls though

sberman
03/26/2013, 04:54 PM
This is today when i got home

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/E31F0B52-1B73-42D0-AE2D-7ACBF41AD1A0-15750-0000047DB60224C4.jpg

Catchoftheday
03/26/2013, 04:56 PM
This is today when i got home

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/E31F0B52-1B73-42D0-AE2D-7ACBF41AD1A0-15750-0000047DB60224C4.jpg

Looks good . do you have a picture of the mouth ? also is it still have rat poop like waste

worm5406
03/26/2013, 05:11 PM
Very good. How many more days in treatment?

sberman
03/26/2013, 05:40 PM
Waiting to make sure it does not deflate
No poops today
Still need to do water change and meds

sberman
03/26/2013, 05:55 PM
Mouth pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/FC2A6168-8F1C-4FC7-868D-A39976C87A23-15958-00000487C0D493AF.jpg

God.
03/26/2013, 06:27 PM
Post # 15 pic looks a little "pancake" like but overall looks nice.

sberman
03/26/2013, 06:34 PM
Post 18 is the most recent not as flat now

Sprink669
03/26/2013, 08:55 PM
Nice piece!

It would be funny to do a "caption this" to the photo in #18

worm5406
03/26/2013, 08:57 PM
Gig under glass w/ watercress salad...... $18

Catchoftheday
03/26/2013, 08:57 PM
Post 18 pic looks really. good

sberman
03/26/2013, 09:04 PM
Hope it keeps improving

sberman
03/27/2013, 09:01 AM
This right as light came on. Is the poop getting more normal
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/61183D99-FE1F-40B8-BCCC-7AACC854FBC9-15958-00000546684923CF.jpg

xtlosx
03/27/2013, 09:05 AM
This right as light came on. Is the poop getting more normal
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/sberman/61183D99-FE1F-40B8-BCCC-7AACC854FBC9-15958-00000546684923CF.jpg

Looks more normal to me... Whenever I see my purple poop it's stringier brown, but that certainly isn't the black rat poop that indicates infection.

sberman
03/27/2013, 09:40 AM
Cool thanks. So maybe still just acclimating today is only 5 or 6 days

Rotknee
03/28/2013, 11:46 AM
How is it doing today Scott?

sberman
03/28/2013, 05:26 PM
Did not make it sad

D-Nak
03/28/2013, 05:38 PM
Looks more normal to me... Whenever I see my purple poop it's stringier brown, but that certainly isn't the black rat poop that indicates infection.

That actually looks exactly like the rat poop of a sick gig.

OrionN
03/28/2013, 05:38 PM
It does looks worst rather than better as I follow this thread and did nto want to comment on this. I am sorry.
Can you posted exactly how you treat him? What in the treatment tank? How much medication and water change regiment? Circulation? Light?
I hope to learn what went wrong. Of course it always can be registrant bacterial but his is rare.
Your last Gig did not make it either. Did you clean the QT our and dry it? The best way to insure that pathogen does not linger from one treatment to another is to dry out the tank in between, of course clean it first. I don't think you need to use bleach or anything like that. Just dry it and any pathogen (almost all anyway) will died with the drying out.

I only want to see if there was any mistake I think you make so that we can all learn from it.

D-Nak
03/28/2013, 05:44 PM
Did not make it sad

I just saw this. Sorry.

I agree with Minh that we need to learn more about the QT process. But, it could be that it was too far gone when you received it.

IMO, gigs die from the inside out, meaning that they look decent from the outside but actually dying.

We should keep a tally of success versus losses with this particular importer. It could very well be that something is going wrong on the export end.

sberman
03/28/2013, 05:47 PM
No problem. It was doing good
I have a 10 gallon with ph and heater had heat to 83 ph flow just above the gig
Did 5 gallon water changes every day at night then added the 250 mg of cipro
I used a t5 hi output 54 watts over tank on for 12 hours
Tank was cleaned with super hot water scrubbed and let dry for 1 week
Not sure where i went wrong.
Please help so i can learn to
Want theses gigs ti live and not perish

OrionN
03/28/2013, 05:49 PM
It is exactly what I would have done. Thanks

sberman
03/28/2013, 05:51 PM
Well at least i am doing it right i guess like d-nak said maybe it is a different type of bacteria
I think nemboy got his from the same batch

God.
03/28/2013, 07:07 PM
We should keep a tally of success versus losses with this particular importer. It could very well be that something is going wrong on the export end.

Im not sure where this importer is, but ive been 5 for 5 with this treatment (with the exception of cooking a blue gig that I later realized was cloned and doomed to die regardless)

sberman
03/28/2013, 07:10 PM
Not sure but i think in l.a.msomewhere

Rotknee
03/28/2013, 08:32 PM
Sorry to hear that the gig didn't make it. Really surprised given the fact that you were able to treat for a full 5 or 6 days with antibiotics. Was it treated with any antibiotics before you got it?

sberman
03/28/2013, 08:38 PM
No came in the day before i heard the one you were going to get deflated

Rotknee
03/28/2013, 08:56 PM
It did deflate quite a bit. He sent me a video 24 hours later and it looks 100% better. Hopefully it continues to pull through. I've been following the gig threads before and after Minh's protocol was shared and I've seen ones that look great die days later and ones that look really bad come back from the dead. I hope one day soon we will be able to look back and say "...remember when we used to consider gigs fragile?"

sberman
03/28/2013, 09:10 PM
Agree with you there

Catchoftheday
03/28/2013, 10:54 PM
Dang sorry about that .

sberman
03/29/2013, 08:57 AM
yeah me to.