View Full Version : Calling All Rimless Owners - your opinion is needed
Kyle918
03/28/2013, 11:20 AM
So I am moving into another apt in a month and I am debating changing tanks. I current have a 55 gallon and 20 gallon sump but due to various non related complications I have yet to do anything more than completely cycling my QT as of last week.
To all of you rimless owners:
Would you buy rimless again?
What is the maintenance like? Anything special for rimless?
What fish are a definite no no due to the top being open?
About how much water evaperation do you have daily on your size tank?
Experience with drilling the tank??
Anything else you've notice only because you own a rimless that you think would be helpful to know now
I have my eye on a deep blue professional 75 gallon rimless that is not drilled for a very nice price. I plan to drill for a bean animal overflow. Would this be a good overflow for this setup? I am trying to avoid the ugly dead center overflow.
BrklynArch
03/28/2013, 11:41 AM
-Would you buy rimless again?
Yes it looks really cool
-What is the maintenance like? Anything special for rimless?
Maintenance is the same as a rimmed tank...i wipe the top 1" portion clean with a mix of some rodi and vinegar and a cloth
-What fish are a definite no no due to the top being open?
You will probably end up putting a screen top on it (doesnt look as bad as you would think) then you dont have to worry about jumpers
About how much water evaperation do you have daily on your size tank?
I have a 4'x2'x2' tank and a 40g breeder sump and i evaporate @ 1 to 1.5 gallons a day.
-Experience with drilling the tank??
I drilled my tank for the bean animal overflow and it was a breeze.
It was the first time i had ever done it and with some reading and watching a few youtube vidoes it was really easy.
Anything else you've notice only because you own a rimless that you think would be helpful to know now
- It looks best with the least amount of things going in over the top of it. it a little harder to hide some equipment that usually gets hidden by a canopy. also light spillage from not having a canopy might be an issue depending on your light set up.
check out my build you will get a better idea
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2063516
I have my eye on a deep blue professional 75 gallon rimless that is not drilled for a very nice price. I plan to drill for a bean animal overflow. Would this be a good overflow for this setup? I am trying to avoid the ugly dead center overflow.
dwalampa
03/28/2013, 11:54 AM
Would definitely buy rimless again. Its sexy!
Rimless tank allows you to clean the inside really easy. As there isn't any brace on top that is blocking your way. But for this very reason, water could very easily spill over the tank. Especially when working with algae scrapers on the glass. Can't go too fast.
Heard all fishes can jump. Didn't want to take the chance, so I have a clear mesh window screen placed on the top of the tank. Some would say this defeats the purpose of having a rimless. But I would have gotten it even if the tank was braced. Would only omit it if there's a canopy over the top. But then would still have to mesh up the opening on the back side.
My 100 gallon with sump and oversized skimmer evaporates about 1 gallon a day.
Never drilled a tank. Think all glass can be drilled unless it is starfire, tampered glass. I may be wrong though.
The main thing that is a PITA is just the water spilling over the sides. The water surface of my tank is about 1-1/4 inch below the edge of the tank. Its a guarantee spillage if I drag the algae scraper too fast across glass when near the surface, or even if I turn the corners too close to the surface.
One suggestion, my LFS has a new tank designed with the over flow inlet about 6 inches below the edge of the tank. So there's a big gap between the surface of the water and the edge of the tank. Some may think that this is valuable real estate wasted, but I think it looks cool. Plus his tank is pimpin it so no one can talk crap.:lmao:
DvSkIn
03/28/2013, 12:11 PM
Rimless is great imo. I like the clean look. When I set up rimless tanks, I try to not have anything over the top of it, but some things are inevitable. Only other thing I would add, is that you can drill any glass besides tempered. Most rimless tanks will not have a tempered pane, but u def wanna check with the mfg before assuming its not tempered
acroman
03/28/2013, 12:17 PM
Would you buy rimless again?
Yep! my 60 cube rocks!
What is the maintenance like? Anything special for rimless?
The water line is more visible, because it isn't hidden by the frame. This is exacerbated by my wavebox, but not too big of a deal. Scraping takes care of it.
What fish are a definite no no due to the top being open?
Jawfish and some wrasses... I haven't personally had an issue, but i intentionally don't buy things that have a tendency to jump.
About how much water evaperation do you have daily on your size tank?
I go through about 5 gal a week on a 60 cube with a 25g sump.
Experience with drilling the tank??
None - although if i did it over, i wouldn't use deep blue's stock plumbing kit FWIW
Anything else you've notice only because you own a rimless that you think would be helpful to know now
Wavebox looks SICK because you can clearly see the wave, as it looks like the tank is going to overflow.
Pendant-type lighting is probably best because it adds to the simplistic feel.
Kyle918
03/28/2013, 05:44 PM
Man!! Glad to hear all the positive replies. I've always felt that the tank itself should make a bold statement and I think rimless does just that by doing something very obvious. I believe I can be gentle with cleaning the glass lol. Good to know now though.
Thanks for the cleaning tip btw. I was wondering about water marks on the top portion of exposed edge. Are you just careful enough not to get vinegar in the tank?
I have been thinking about a top for the tank but I, like you said, am a little concerned of that defeating the purpose. Do you personally use a cover? I checked out your build but didn't notice one in any of the pictures. If you do can you post a picture?
I was expecting about 1 to 1.5 gallons a day. I tend to keep my apt cold while I'm home so I expect a little more evaporation than if my tank and room temperature were closer.
I am excited about drilling this tank. I have never done it before but from what I've read on this site, it is a breeze if done with the right equipment and a bit of common sense. I will go with the bean animal design. I think that will be a huge benefit to the tank in so many ways. It's a great design. I will read into drilling a tank on this site, but any tips if you were to do it over again? I know a few of you said that was your first time drilling a tank.
I haven't decided on lighting yet but I am thinking something in the lines of a 4 or 6 bulb T5 unit like ATIs sunpower or something similar. I want to eventually progress to coral so I will have to address lighting at some point. Initially I will have a no frills I-don't-know what brand light that'll be plenty for fish. I will take into account the light bleeding though. I would like to minimize that because the tank will be in my living room and I don't want a huge glare all the time in my eyes.
Thanks for all the replies. I'm really excited about this, especially since this is my first marine tank in general!! Been looking forward to it since last year but the more I read on this site, the more I refined my angle at this first attempt at a marine tank.
Thanks again!
thegrun
03/28/2013, 08:43 PM
Here is my 50 rimless cube. Yes I would go rimless again but if you want to keep wrasses or other known jumpers plan on adding a net. I would say I clean the waterline more with my rimless than I have in the past with eurobraced tanks, but cleaning is simply running a razor blade along the waterline so it is very easy, it takes maybe a minute at most. I lose anout a 1/2 gallon a day to evaporation, not significantly different than braced tanks. Drilling while nerve racking is very easy. There are plenty of videos on the net showing you how.
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu262/greenirons/50%20Cube/50Cube002.jpg
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu262/greenirons/50%20Cube/Aquarium10-22-12001.jpg
alexander_ktn
03/28/2013, 08:54 PM
I only have rimless tanks and all are open and without mesh cover. I lost a Pseudechidna brummeri eel due to jumping out, otherwise I had no problems.
I think maintenance is even easier than with tanks with central braces since they can collect salt crusts due to salt spray and the undersides are hard to get 100% clean.
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