View Full Version : Need to redo my plumbing. Keep fuge separate or combine with sump?
DavidinGA
03/31/2013, 10:38 PM
I just switched over to a Herbie drain setup and now my drain that was going to feed my fuge section of the sump is the dry emergency drain and so I either have to redo the plumbing from the return to dump some into the fuge or I could cut some silicone on the glass panel or remove the panel entirely and separate the fuge with some egg crate. What do you think would be the best route here?
I have an eheim 1262 pump in the sump and after the 6ft of height on it I probably have 700ish gph going through the sump.
In the picture I have my drains on the left, return in the middle and the fuge on the right. The drain and ball valve going into the fuge is now a dry emergency line so it won't feed the fuge any longer.
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worm5406
04/01/2013, 12:50 PM
If it was a beananimal you could use the overflow to feed the fuge area.
Where is the skimmer?
Frankly leave it just like you have it setup. Combine it with the sump would be best, though.
BIG_KAHUNA
04/01/2013, 01:11 PM
The ideal fuge setup would be gravity fed directly to the DT, and having water pumped up to the fuge from the sump. This way you can slow the flow waaaay down in the fuge to give macro algae more time to soak up the nasties and all your fish food growing in it will still be alive when it finds its way into the DT rather than being chopped up in a return pump.
MrClam
04/01/2013, 01:15 PM
To answer your question I would say redo the plumbing would be the best option. Or you could get a small pump like an MJ1200 to feed the fuge if that is easier.
DavidinGA
04/01/2013, 02:13 PM
Would their own be a downside to cutting some silicone on the glass baffle and allowing flow through the fuge that way?
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Pastey
04/01/2013, 02:16 PM
Why not tap the return line and adjust the flow with a valve? You need much slower flow through a fuge than you have through the rest of your sump. You don't want to choke you drain to do that.
Dotterer
04/01/2013, 05:21 PM
The ideal fuge setup would be gravity fed directly to the DT, and having water pumped up to the fuge from the sump. This way you can slow the flow waaaay down in the fuge to give macro algae more time to soak up the nasties and all your fish food growing in it will still be alive when it finds its way into the DT rather than being chopped up in a return pump.
I haven't seen a lot of 'above the dt' types that were not in wall or something.... Any other way to pump them without destroying all that copepod goodness.
Dotterer
04/01/2013, 05:22 PM
Oh - and just to be clear - think its an awesome idea, just not sure how to mount above my canopy..
DavidinGA
04/02/2013, 07:09 AM
So I guess I'll have to re plumb...agh
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BIG_KAHUNA
04/02/2013, 07:56 AM
@ Dotterer
Yeah like I said it's ideal but tough to do without it looking awkward. I always dreamed of a tank built into a whole wall of nice bookshelves and have the fuge sitting slightly above the tank as a display fuge lol. I suppose the only other way is behind a wall in a fish room or something. A super low flow pump from the fuge to the DT may work. From my understanding its not the blades making contact with the pods and plankton as much as it's the sheer acceleration in the pump that kills them.
Dotterer
04/02/2013, 12:44 PM
@ Dotterer
Yeah like I said it's ideal but tough to do without it looking awkward. I always dreamed of a tank built into a whole wall of nice bookshelves and have the fuge sitting slightly above the tank as a display fuge lol. I suppose the only other way is behind a wall in a fish room or something. A super low flow pump from the fuge to the DT may work. From my understanding its not the blades making contact with the pods and plankton as much as it's the sheer acceleration in the pump that kills them.
Hmmm.. Good stuff. The 'ultra low flow pump' is the key there I guess
Dotterer
04/02/2013, 12:50 PM
Hmmm.. Good stuff. The 'ultra low flow pump' is the key there I guess
Would something like this work?
http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/catalog/product/view/id/89/
GroktheCube
04/02/2013, 01:25 PM
Personally, I'm in the process of setting up a separate 25g fuge next to my DT, and supplying water to it via a dedicated pump. Seems ideal to me, I don't need to worry as much about detritus and crap accumulating, I don't need to give up return flow to the DT, and I don't lose sump space.
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