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mwilliams62
06/14/2013, 12:04 PM
Tiny bit of success….. FINALLY…

Well as Jo aka SaltyJo puts it “If first you don't suceed....try try try”
Well I haven’t given up yet…
Here is my tiny bit and I mean very tiny..
Batch #15 had split hatchings like always… Hatched on two nights May 24th & 25th…. Had about 30 in total to hatch only for my stupidity and did not secure the airline tubing down and it had fallen out of the tank so only 2 had made it till one day I found one of the two stuck on the tubing do not know how that happened so now I only have 1 left from batch #15 and it is now 20dph but I do not see any head strips at all on it…
Now comes along Batch #16 also again a split hatch nights… I really hate that…. They ate about ¾ of the eggs so I had very little to hatch 4 hatched on June 4th and the other 4 to hatch on June 5th.. Well I am down to 5 left and I am afraid that one will go because he is a jumper… and he is very tiny compared to the others. He has popped up out of the water a couple of times.... and they are now 9dph..
What I do not understand is that the one left from batch 15 which is 11 days older is the same size as the larger ones from batch #16 and I still can’t see any head strips or markings at all..

So that is my tiny, tiny success story for now…
Awaiting for batch #17 to hatch and go news is that there is still a good amount of eggs left on the rock as of last night but they always seem to get thinned out by the time hatch night comes along.. Which will be on either the 3 nights 16th 17th or the 18th….

I really need to figure out how to get them to hatch on ONE Night.
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated

Jaypilot
06/14/2013, 05:45 PM
Good deal. These things are a lot tougher then I though as well. I guess I'm just thankful that they give us so many attempts to get it correct.

mwilliams62
06/14/2013, 06:56 PM
Yep but was hoping to have more success than failures..

saltyjo
06/15/2013, 12:50 PM
Glad to see that you are still at it Mary. :) This is the second year I have been trying to raise these guys and I still don't have it perfected. I do however have 30 little fry in one tank that seem to be doing well (almost 2 months old). And in another tank I have 1 that was hatched on Dec 31st. He is my real success.
Other than those the only thing I have perfected is about every way to kill clownfish fry. I have learned from my mistakes and am also just glad the parents keep giving me chances to get it right.

mwilliams62
06/15/2013, 02:24 PM
Yep but I feel so bad when the die... Right now the batch that will be harching real soon are underneath the RBTA's I keep moving them off of the top of the eggs but they just seem to go back into the same position they were in before.

mwilliams62
06/15/2013, 02:42 PM
Trying to post pics from taptalk.

mwilliams62
06/18/2013, 12:00 PM
I am so excited just had to share this picture my oldest fry of 23dph finally got his first head stripe.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/mwilliams62/Baby%20Clownfish%20Fry/CanonRebel6-17-13002.jpg (http://s227.photobucket.com/user/mwilliams62/media/Baby%20Clownfish%20Fry/CanonRebel6-17-13002.jpg.html)

ernieq
06/18/2013, 12:31 PM
The development seems a bit delayed. What is your water temperature. This is what mine look like typically at 20 days old.

mwilliams62
06/18/2013, 12:39 PM
Temp is around 80 - 84... He is a True Perc and was told they develop at a slower rate not sure if that is correct or not..
He might have gotten the head stripe sooner but I checked him on 19dph and I could not see one.

Wow yours is big....
Mine it tiny even the fry that hatched after his batch a few are already bigger then he is.

mwilliams62
06/18/2013, 01:18 PM
What do you feed your fry to get that big at that early of an age?

Also how often do you feed them?

mwilliams62
06/19/2013, 06:56 AM
Ok guys I am exhausted from collecting fry three nights in a row. Batch #17 hatched on three nights.
June 16th about 10-15 hatched
June 17th about 40+ hatched
June 18th about 20 hatched (guessing on that number)

So can someone please tell me the secret to get them to hatch on one night.
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mwilliams62
06/26/2013, 06:39 AM
Well my oldest is now 30dph and I saw last night a tiny white mark by his tail and he is starting to swim like a little clownfish.. But he stays on the bottom of the tank I cannot get a good picture of him he will not come up to the top of the tank nor the middle part of the tank... Does anyone know why this is???

And my others that are now 21 dph the runts stay at the top of the water swimming all over and one large one stays right in the corner will hardly if ever move from that spot.....

Jaypilot
06/26/2013, 11:41 AM
Assuming there is nothing medically going on that is just where they feel comfortable. I have about 40 that stay pretty huddled up and then I have a few stragglers that never move from their spot. One it right next to the airline the other is next to a rock... Its normal from my limited experience.

mwilliams62
06/26/2013, 12:35 PM
Okay thanks... I was just kind of worried about him.

GreshamH
06/28/2013, 03:47 PM
Looking good, Mary!

mwilliams62
06/28/2013, 04:10 PM
Thanks... They are all so cute.. I am just so happy I am finally able to keep quite a few of them alive...
And Batch 17 I still have quite a lot that makes me even more happier...

mwilliams62
07/03/2013, 07:28 PM
Well my babies from the batch that hatched in May got their second stripe going noticed it last week. And my other batch of babies got their first stripe earlier than the other ones. I am so happy just wish I could get a good picture of them with my cell phone.

Jaypilot
07/03/2013, 09:13 PM
Very nice how many little guys did you get past meta this time?

I'm still getting about 10-15. My best batch I got about 20. I'm still not sure what I'm doing wrong though. The last two batches I was able to get over 100 to last past the first night and hen they would slowly die off before reaching meta. The only thing I could guess is by about day two or three I start to run really low on rotifer. As a result I only feed the fry once a day just so that my rotifer will last a little longer.

mwilliams62
07/04/2013, 05:50 AM
Well I got three left from the batch that hatched back in May and what is really strange is one of the three is extremely tiny while the other two are getting big along with the second stripe. It was a very small batch to begin with they had eatten a lot of the eggs. I think I collected a total of ten. But the next batch I collected in mid june I think I got about 100 but looks like I am down to maybe some where between 50 to maybe 70 and I noticed around day 14 they were getting their first stripes. I am thinking about putting the runt in with them since there are a lot of small ones in that batch. I did not bother to collect the batch that hatched last week since I was out of tanks but going to petco today hoping they are open to get one or two more tanks.

Jaypilot
07/04/2013, 09:50 AM
Wow nice job on your high servival %. I have a batch common on Monday or Tues that I hope to have a little better luck with.

mwilliams62
07/04/2013, 03:29 PM
Thanks. I just went and picked up a couple more tanks this morning so I can collect the next batch due to hatch I am thinking Tuesday. There was a lot on the rock but now the eggs are blending in with the rock so I can't tell how many is even left on it right now.

saltyjo
07/05/2013, 07:42 AM
Thanks. I just went and picked up a couple more tanks this morning so I can collect the next batch due to hatch I am thinking Tuesday. There was a lot on the rock but now the eggs are blending in with the rock so I can't tell how many is even left on it right now.

Hi Mary, I was really glad to log on today and read about your success!!! Yeah! I haven't been on in a while and was wondering how your babies were doing. So happy for you. Congratulations.

mwilliams62
07/05/2013, 09:11 AM
Thanks me too.

ernieq
07/06/2013, 08:24 AM
Good to see they are developing. You will get runts in batches that just grow really slow. I have some that are about 1/4 the size of the bigger ones of the same age. Usually about 5% stay runts. I'm thinking of pulling a couple of runts out of growout and put him into a tank that I use to grow corals.

To get back to you about what I feed. Usually decap newly hatched brine from just before meta to about 5 days post meta and then they get weaned on TDO. I've also used some golden pearls. It is true that true perc's growth rate is slower than ocellaris. I've always been shocked at their quick growth rate.

mwilliams62
07/06/2013, 10:11 AM
Thanks. When do you completely remove all covers that are around the fry tanks?

shifty51008
07/06/2013, 01:44 PM
you say your getting tired of collecting the fry, have you ever tried the vossen larval fish traps?

http://chadvossen.blogspot.com/2010/05/larval-fish-traps.html

mwilliams62
07/06/2013, 02:36 PM
you say your getting tired of collecting the fry, have you ever tried the vossen larval fish traps?

http://chadvossen.blogspot.com/2010/05/larval-fish-traps.html

Don't recall saying that I was getting tired of collecting fry. And yes I have one of the larval traps.

ernieq
07/06/2013, 06:54 PM
Thanks. When do you completely remove all covers that are around the fry tanks?

I never really do. I typically just remove the front one after Meta. When they get moved to growout, there are no more covers. I posted a new thread on the first 30 days with photos. It would be interesting to compare with a true percs. I might have to just get a pair of true percs and try at it for the experience and to start another journal. I had been toiling with the idea of getting some platinum percs, but selling large amounts of these can get difficult since they fetch higher prices. I am now learning that keeping clowns in growout for long periods of time can become expensive with large water changes weekly. The bio load as the clowns grow is just too great to keep any level of decent water quality. I currently perform about 40% water changes weekly. It is not an ammonia issue, there's just a lot of waste and I'd rather not let nitrates build up astronomically. I'm beginning to think that a weekly trip to the Florida Keys to get some water might be worthwhile at this point.

mwilliams62
07/06/2013, 07:36 PM
Thanks. Mine or no were near time for the growout tank but I am already changing water - cleaning the bottom of the two tanks I have ever day and I could not imagine having to tend to multiple tanks. So I will have to find inexpensive salt to maintain these tanks.
I will check your new post out.
Thanks for all your advice I know I will need more when it is time to move them over to the growout tank.

mwilliams62
07/06/2013, 09:31 PM
Well my tiny bit of success just went to great sadness. I just lost my two oldest survivors from my batch that hatched in May.

ernieq
07/07/2013, 12:30 AM
:(

sorry to hear that. I too went through a period where I inexplicably lost some 30+ day olds, never figured out why.

mwilliams62
07/07/2013, 07:06 AM
Thanks. I am not sure but it might have been because I moved the tanks from one table to another and I had sponge cleaned the bottom and sides of the tank. I had to put them in a bucket while I did this. But I am very surprised I did not lose any in the other tank I did the same for it. I just got up get all the gunk off the bottom of the tank with the rigid tube.

mwilliams62
07/28/2013, 06:32 AM
Well I put this tiny GBTA in the fry's tank and one baby knows what to do he is so cute in there. Hope others will learn from him... Sorry if the picture is blurry.

shifty51008
07/30/2013, 06:47 PM
Very cute, its neat to see them learn that early.

Are you worried about water quality in the growout tank for the bta?

mwilliams62
07/30/2013, 07:32 PM
Thanks.. I was not even sure if they would start hosting that early in life it is really cool to see that. There are now two that go in and out of the bta.. They aren't in the growout tank yet not sure if they are ready for the growout tank yet. Plus I do a water change every other day when cleaning the excess food on the bottom of the tank. I need to read some other threads to see how old they need to be when they go into the growout tank.

shifty51008
07/30/2013, 09:01 PM
I remember reading somewhere that in the wild they will find an anemone within a week or 2,i think it was joyce wilkersons book or they wont survive. Ill have to look it up again.

mwilliams62
07/31/2013, 07:06 AM
Thanks..Let me know what you find... This was more of an experiment for me... The only thing I would be really worried about for the anemone would be the lighting in a small tank.

shifty51008
07/31/2013, 07:50 AM
I looked it up, she states that right after meta they need to find an anemone or be eaten. if the anemone already has a group of clowns they can accept the new commer or chase it away which then the new clown must keep searching.

sounds like a harsh start to life lol

that book also stated that anemones will also dissapear if no clowns were around it, I thought that was also interesting, they kinda need each other to survive.

mwilliams62
07/31/2013, 12:29 PM
That is a harsh way to start a new life....
Man I really need to get my hands on a copy of that book. Along with Clownfish 411.

mwilliams62
08/13/2013, 04:40 PM
They are growing up.. But there are still some ones from the same batch.

mwilliams62
01/07/2014, 10:42 AM
Well it has been a long time since I last updated. I just shot these two little videos the other day sorry for the noise I forgot to turn off the filters and clean the glass. Also I still have some really tiny ones that just don't seem to want to grow very well.
They are a little over 7 months old now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDZuoZiIUoU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOM7oqyrSVE