Ciprofloxacin Antibiotic Treatment H. Magnifica Log

[ryannterror]

I was in my LFS on 6/21/13 saw a Mag that looked sick and bleached. Talked to the owner picked it up for next to nothing. Brought him home and set him up in my Hospital tank. He was doing the Inflate deflate cycle of death.

The hospital tank is set up like OrionN's tank. PH and Heater are blocked off by egg create. I also have a small HOB filter running for some added flow along with a pack of purgien.

6/21/13 Here he is after acclimation I could only run the air stones for circulation as he was very weak and didn't have a strong grip

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_0552.jpg

6/25/13 Began treating 250mg Ciprofloxacin on 6/23/13 50% water change and 250 mg every night.
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Still been doing the Inflate deflate cycle of death, but its less and less. Mag still has been pooping out black chunks.

6/29/13 Mag has been looking a lot better hasn't been doing the Inflate deflate cycle of death very much but is still pooping tiny tiny bits of black.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_6137.jpg

Hard to see in the pictures but Mag is starting to get a brown gold color on the tips and some of his tentacles.

7/1/13 I felt the Par 38 LED lighting wasn't strong enough for him anymore so I switched out the light to Metal halide. Seems to be absolutely loving it. Mag no longer is popping anything black and for the most part is staying totally inflated. A few tentacles here and there but not totally.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_0189.jpg

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_0185.jpg

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_0187.jpg

I really hope the Mag pulls through seems to be getting his color back. Hopefully this week he will eat some food. Time can only tell I will keep this post updated.

[SNAKEMANVET]

Looks like it has made big improvements.

[Rare Angels]

Job well done! I guess I shouldn't say done, but it sure does look a 100 times better!!

[ryannterror]

Looks like it has made big improvements.

Job well done! I guess I shouldn't say done, but it sure does look a 100 times better!!

Thanks guy's I'll try and add daily photos of how the Mag's doing!

[xtlosx]

Maybe I'm wrong here but don't think you need or want that purigen in there... Minh can confirm, but just a simple powerhead, heater, and medication is all that is needed...

Good luck, and looks much better so far.

[AD87]

Looking good!
I wouldn't put any purigen in the QT if it was me it may absorb some of the medication.

[ca1ore]

Agreed, no purigen. Water quality is maintained thru no feeding and daily 50% water changes. BTW, though bleached, looks to me like a really nice red base. I'm jealous, been looking for one like this for ages. Good score!

[ryannterror]

Maybe I'm wrong here but don't think you need or want that purigen in there... Minh can confirm, but just a simple powerhead, heater, and medication is all that is needed...

Good luck, and looks much better so far.

Looking good!
I wouldn't put any purigen in the QT if it was me it may absorb some of the medication.


I was worried about that a little bit but it seems to be helping more then its hurting.

In the beginning I was having to do 2 water changes a day as he was creating so much waste.

Since I've added small bag of Purigen seems to help keep the water quality better between water changes but thats mostly due to the mag becoming healthier!

[xtlosx]

I was worried about that a little bit but it seems to be helping more then its hurting.

In the beginning I was having to do 2 water changes a day as he was creating so much waste.

Since I've added small bag of Purigen seems to help keep the water quality better between water changes but thats mostly due to the mag becoming healthier!

My only concern would be the unintended consequences of what might be in purigen extracting medication, or inserting other stuff you do not want in such a controlled environment.. Either way, good luck and keep us posted.

[ryannterror]

I removed the Purigen tonight!

[ca1ore]

Nem looks good. I've had one recover from comparable bleaching, just be careful about too much light.

[sberman]

And dont feed in the qt wait till its back in the dt good save so far

[ryannterror]

Mag seems to still be doing great! Getting more and more of a golden green color day by day.

[ca1ore]

Can you show us a recent picture please.

So, are you keeping it or treating and returning to the LFS? If the latter, and depending where you are in PA I'd take it?

[ryannterror]

Can you show us a recent picture please.

So, are you keeping it or treating and returning to the LFS? If the latter, and depending where you are in PA I'd take it?

Not really sure what my plans are for the Mag its going to be awhile before hes back to 100% health really.

Plans are for now to add him to my 30gal QT tank with live rock for a few months. Daily water changes are starting to wear on me lol. Might move him later today. He really needs to eat now that his stop inflating deflating. My plans are to try and feed him the morning or night before I move him hopefully give him some extra strength for the move.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_0210.jpg

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_0212.jpg

[sberman]

As long as water quality is the same i would move him let him inflate then feed less stress that way

[AD87]

looking great

[ryannterror]

The Mag seems to be doing really well I stopped Cipro on thursday. I asked my Fiancé to feed the Anemones on saturday before I could say not that one she fed the mag piece of fresh garlic soaked scallop. Well I guess he was hungry cause he ate it! Been keeping an extra careful eye on the water quality as he's still in the hospital tank. Here are some updated pictures I just took tonight before the lights turned off.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/mag-recovery-7-8-1.jpg

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/mag-recovery-7-8-2.jpg

Mag is most definitely doing better I wish I had taken a picture of him at the LFS when looked totally dead for a comparison.

You can see some of his color is slowly coming back and his mouth is staying closed. Fingers crossed I think I might have saved this one!

[ca1ore]

Excellent job. Another one for the win column it appears.

[sberman]

looking real good great job on this and its a purple base to

[ryannterror]

Well I guess that was all the calm before the storm Walked Past the hospital tank notice the Mag Blowing out smoke once the smoke cleared looked like this.
http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/mag-death.jpg

Not really sure what to think its still mostly inflated but you can see some of his guts through its oral disc. Just going to leave him be and see what happens I guess. Odd thing is he looked the best he has today. Could possibly be splitting? Probably just kicking the bucket though sadly :/

[ca1ore]

Stress spawning maybe?

[ryannterror]

Looks better today oral disc is smooth not guts sticking out.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_0226.jpg?i=1041511604

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_0227.jpg

[larcomak11]

I love these stories. Ill be tagging along for this, looking good so far!

[worm5406]

Very good.

[ryannterror]

Last night I decided to move the Mag here is a picture right after moving him.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/mag-recovery-tank-2.jpg


Woke up this morning and was shocked to see the mag in the same spot I left him.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/mag-recovery-tank-1.jpg

Mouth is a tiny bit puffed but think its just from the stress of moving. Going to try and feed him this weekend. Now that he's in a real tank I will try to feed him fairly often as he's still bleached pretty bad.

Only time will tell at this point! Hopeful he will make it!:bounce3:

[worm5406]

What light is it under?

[ryannterror]

T5 HO only 2 bulbs on in this picture the other 6 come on in stages. Both pictures were at the very end and very beginning of light cycle.

[worm5406]

Ahh ok... It looked different than in your HT/QT tank. I was worried at first but you answered that question.

[sberman]

I thought the light had to be stronger for these guys.

[ryannterror]

8 T5 HO 54w bulbs should be fine for the Mag lights are only 5 6" max from the water. Its attached to the rock was on in the hospital tank. Which is on top of the highest rock in the tank. Should be set for lighting if seems to need more light ill put him in the 30 gal nano that has a 250W MH or break out the MH for the tank he's in.

The Mag was under a 250W MH in the hospital tank but it was a good 18" 20" from the top on the tank. Think might be better no to totally blast him just yet with super powerful lighting.

[sberman]

Was just woundering im using the 250 mh. But if i could use t5 s that is better

[shrimpgal]

Well done and it is looking better and better
Keeping my fingers crossed but I think you are over the hump:dance:

[ca1ore]

Was just woundering im using the 250 mh. But if i could use t5 s that is better

I have always kept my Mags successfully under MH lighting (HQI, 10 or 14K) or under a combo of MH and LED. I think it's potayto potahto.

[sberman]

ok. ill just leave the mh

[ryannterror]

I have always kept my Mags successfully under MH lighting (HQI, 10 or 14K) or under a combo of MH and LED. I think it's potayto potahto.

ok. ill just leave the mh


Yeah I would Personally keep the MH.

[ryannterror]

Still doing really well haven't taken and updated picture in a few days will try to tonight. I've been busy with my latest Mag.

[worm5406]

Still doing really well haven't taken and updated picture in a few days will try to tonight. I've been busy with my latest Mag.

Latest mag huh???

OK I'll bite... Who/what/where/when.... (no why or how needed hahahaha)

[ryannterror]

Heres some updated pictures. It's rather hard to get the camera to show his real color. In person he's rather yellow/green.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_6288.jpg

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_7427.jpg

[ryannterror]

Came home today to see the mag had moved. I'm not really sure why all the water levels are good. Maybe the lights to much for him? Just going to leave him be and hope for the best.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/img_9487.jpg

[ryannterror]

I ended up moving the mag into my one nano 30 gal system. I have some snails in my main tank that are a little bit smaller then a baseball and for some reason they would sleep next to the mags foot. It seemed to really upset the mag. So I felt was best to move the mag till its stronger. Was having a hard time getting a picture to show the mags real color in person the tentacles are yellow.

Here are a few pictures from this morning.

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/fred-7-29-13-2.jpg

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/fred-7-29-13.jpg

http://www.rtmperformance.com/wp-content/gallery/heteractis-magnifica-recovery/ritteri-recovery.jpg

[OrionN]

He is pretty well bleached. If you have a Magnifica that is not bleached, you may want to cut a tentacle or two off of the healthy anemone and stuff it into a piece of food and feed it to the bleached anemone. Zooxanthellae transplant. This have been sucessfully use in the past to treat completly bleached anemone

[ryannterror]

He is pretty well bleached. If you have a Magnifica that is not bleached, you may want to cut a tentacle or two off of the healthy anemone and stuff it into a piece of food and feed it to the bleached anemone. Zooxanthellae transplant. This have been sucessfully use in the past to treat completly bleached anemone

I'm going to give it a few more weeks and see how things go. It's been getting more and more color back each day. I'm just going to continue feeding it. If i don't see a major improvement soon I will defiantly give that a shot. The only other mag I have is just getting use to its new tank so I don't really want to stress it out more by cutting it.

[SomeDude12]

He is pretty well bleached. If you have a Magnifica that is not bleached, you may want to cut a tentacle or two off of the healthy anemone and stuff it into a piece of food and feed it to the bleached anemone. Zooxanthellae transplant. This have been sucessfully use in the past to treat completly bleached anemone

Quite interesting.

[ryannterror]

He is pretty well bleached. If you have a Magnifica that is not bleached, you may want to cut a tentacle or two off of the healthy anemone and stuff it into a piece of food and feed it to the bleached anemone. Zooxanthellae transplant. This have been sucessfully use in the past to treat completly bleached anemone


Minh

Dose it have to be from a Mag? Could tentacle be say from a bubble tip?

[OrionN]

The two times I saw was both with the same species. One Gigantea and one Magnifica.
I don't think using BTA for Magnifica would hurt. It likely to work just as well. Why don't you do it and document it. Ithink it would be nice information to have. It have been more than a monthsince your magnifica bleached, maybe longer. I would encourage you to try it. Removal of tentacle is not a stress for anemone IMO

[ryannterror]

The two times I saw was both with the same species. One Gigantea and one Magnifica.
I don't think using BTA for Magnifica would hurt. It likely to work just as well. Why don't you do it and document it. Ithink it would be nice information to have. It have been more than a monthsince your magnifica bleached, maybe longer. I would encourage you to try it. Removal of tentacle is not a stress for anemone IMO

Ok I'll give it a shot in the next few days. Mag just ate last night so going to give a day or so to get hungry again.

Wish I just did it last night!!

I'll make sure I take pictures and document it well.

I'm interested to see if the green Zooxanthellae of the green bubble tip will have any effect on the mags coloring. I am correct in my understanding that the type/species of Zooxanthellae determines the coloring correct. It's not the anemone that determines what coloring the Zooxanthellae produce?

[OrionN]

All the zooxanthellae are golden brown. The color of the anemone is due to the genetic of the animal, but the zooanthellae added the brownish color to it.
Bleached Blue Gigantea will stay blue after it recover even if it get zooanthellae from a brown Gigantea.

[OrionN]

Rather than add on tot his thread, start a new thread so that we can search for it later on. I tried to search for the two other threads on zooxanthellae that I read but only come up with one.