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rchavez
07/28/2013, 09:14 AM
Hello, I would like to see if the Herbie overflow method would work on my new tank build. The tank will be in my living room and I would just like a quiet tank.

Specs:
65 DSA Rimless (Reef Ready)
2 x 3/4" Return holes drilled, 1 x 1 1/4 Drain hole drilled
PM 30 sump with 2 drains
Tunze adjustable return pump
I would prefer to hard plumb it, I'm tired of leaks and salt creep. (Open to suggestions)

Questions:
1. Can it work with the current holes drilled?
2. Should I use the 3/4 returns as the 2 Herbie drains?
3. Should I use 1 3/4 and the 1 1/4 holes for the 2 Herbie drains? (which one for the main & which one for the emergency)
4. Is this a good idea?

I have posted some pictures below. Thanks for your help! :dance:

phxreefer
07/28/2013, 10:39 AM
I would use the 1 1/4" for the emergency and the 3/4" for the herbie. I have a 40b plumbed almost the same with 3/4" herbie and 1" emergency. The return is over the back. If i would have known about the herbie setup when i built that tank i would have done it just like yours with three holes, the third to accomidate the return.

Vinny Kreyling
07/28/2013, 02:55 PM
Agreed on the 1 1/4 for the emergency.
Fine tuning the drains requires a Ball Valve.
I read that combining the drains and then a valve will help eliminate constant adjustments on a dual valve set up.
I can attest to this fact!
Someday I just might have to redo mine.

rchavez
07/29/2013, 05:40 PM
Thanks for the responses guys. I was thinking using 1 of 3/4 drains as the gate valve drain and using the 1 1/4 drain as the emergency drain. The second 3/4 hole would be used for the return of course. Phxreefer, how did your setup turn out? Is it quiet?

LennyD4
07/29/2013, 05:48 PM
Hey, definitely go with the ball valves on the drain and return. Don't leave out unions either. I have unions on both my drains and also my return. They allow you to disconnect parts of your plumbing easily. I never used mine for the first year and a half but then my drain got fully clogged and got it unstuck by simply unscrewing the union and cleaning it out really quick.

mr.maroonsalty
07/29/2013, 08:31 PM
I would run the syphon straight through the bulkhead with no standpipe; and use the larger bulkhead as your backup standpipe. 3/4" has a rather small area but it shouldn't have any problem syphoning what a pump through the same size pipe can send it.