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NastyZ
11/02/2013, 08:39 PM
So I had an outbreak about two weeks ago of this stuff due to sterring things up with some new powerheads and cleaning out my sump in my tank wondering what it is so I can take approach of getting rid of them iv recently done a 25% water change and it seemed to help

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh485/fmunguia/EB94BD00-C3B1-43A3-B9DA-DF8A5F653A3F-5158-000006735B5CFD0B_zps340a9463.jpg

KyleO
11/02/2013, 10:21 PM
Water changes are key..........as you have already seen. Make sure you check your nutrient export and that Nitrates and Phosphates are as low as you can get them (0 is preferred). But for removing it directly, I use a 3/8" vinyl tube connected to a 3/8" rigid tube and siphon out what you can see during the water changes. The rigid tube lets you get right in there all pull it off the rocks and out of your tank.

NastyZ
11/02/2013, 10:24 PM
Water changes are key..........as you have already seen. Make sure you check your nutrient export and that Nitrates and Phosphates are as low as you can get them (0 is preferred). But for removing it directly, I use a 3/8" vinyl tube connected to a 3/8" rigid tube and siphon out what you can see during the water changes. The rigid tube lets you get right in there all pull it off the rocks and out of your tank.

Yea iv done all that just comes back a lot of stuff blow out into the water colum when I switched powerheads and cleaning the sump didn't help just don't know of its Dino or diatoms

Wills612
11/02/2013, 10:32 PM
I say Diatoms. It doesn't look stringy or bubbly.

NastyZ
11/02/2013, 10:35 PM
It's a little of both more stringy then anything some have little bubbles on the ends

d2mini
11/03/2013, 07:45 AM
If it's getting stringy and bubbles then I would say it's dinos.

IowaJeeping
11/03/2013, 08:47 AM
Does it come right back like within 24 hours?

drew930
11/03/2013, 08:50 AM
If it is stringy , it's probably Dino's. From what I have read ... Water changes will make the situation worse. I had Dino's and didn't do water changes and used hydrogen peroxide to kill mine off . During the peroxide dosing , I used a very short light period for a couple of days .

Wills612
11/03/2013, 11:36 AM
If it is stringy , it's probably Dino's. From what I have read ... Water changes will make the situation worse. I had Dino's and didn't do water changes and used hydrogen peroxide to kill mine off . During the peroxide dosing , I used a very short light period for a couple of days .

Im scared to say I've beat them. 3 day total black out and H202 dosing, haven't seen any dinos in a month.

NastyZ
11/03/2013, 11:49 AM
They seem to be going away since the water change or at least not coming back so quickly I started wet skimming ill get a better pic when the lights come on some looks stringy and some looks like patches

SA573
11/03/2013, 11:49 AM
I have been dealing with dions and i think im starting to win. I read something about raising the ph so i satrted doing that about a week ago with an ongoing blackout and it seems to be working.

NastyZ
11/03/2013, 11:57 AM
Here's a different pic what do you guys think this stuff is a little more fuzzy but looks the same as the rest

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh485/fmunguia/434B1744-8FF4-417B-A5D9-E2B9237E8DC8-5482-000007A883E0B014_zps0ef5993d.jpg

SA573
11/03/2013, 12:10 PM
Can you post a pic with day lights on hard to tell with only actinics

NastyZ
11/03/2013, 12:23 PM
Best pic I could get

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh485/fmunguia/4B58B626-6AC1-446C-BBDC-A7C371F5D70D-5558-000007B0CA97AA83_zps020875af.jpg

jimrawr
11/03/2013, 02:16 PM
Diatoms. No signs of Dinos

NastyZ
11/13/2013, 03:51 PM
Here's a little bit of a better pic still trying to identify between Dino and diatoms it seems to get worse when my day lights turn on I'm thinking of turning the lights off for a couple of days and c wht happens

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh485/fmunguia/F0EB1545-7144-4607-9CF9-A02F315D37FB-1339-000001648A000B8B_zpsbf51145b.jpg

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh485/fmunguia/667EEF3B-1E06-48E5-81E3-3925E94063F9-1339-000001648E6DBC31_zps447cf7db.jpg

NastyZ
11/13/2013, 07:55 PM
Anyone?

ssick92
11/13/2013, 08:15 PM
Looks like diatoms to me too. When I had dinos it was a lot more intrusive and bubbly. It was also stringy like hair algae.

I don't think they are anything to worry about, just a sign of a maturing tank.

scottwhitson
11/13/2013, 08:41 PM
If it gets worse when the lights turn on and almost seems to go away at night this sounds like Dinos.

NastyZ
11/13/2013, 10:05 PM
It does get worse then my day lights come on but everything pic iv seen of Dino's doesn't look like This diatoms also get worse in the light too don't they?

Reefer54
11/13/2013, 10:07 PM
looks like cyano, but that may just be the blue light.

NastyZ
11/14/2013, 11:24 AM
It's brown doesn't look like cryno iv ever seen if it is I'm going to start dosing h202 with limited light see how it does