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Reeferhead
12/02/2013, 09:37 AM
Do any of the LFS carry live mysis? any local breeders? or any place within 1 day ground shipping area?
Pife
12/02/2013, 09:58 AM
Seascape has some type of feeder shrimp for sale.
Reeferhead
12/02/2013, 10:56 AM
do you know if they're marine?
Pife
12/02/2013, 12:07 PM
They are living in salt water.
oshanickreef
12/02/2013, 12:35 PM
i think it may be brine.

also they are growing all sorts of live foods and they give out samples often.
Reeferhead
12/02/2013, 01:14 PM
Brine won't work... plus I could hatch and raise brine myself with less effort than it takes to drive to SS :lol:

Anyone know what else they're growing?
cobra9
12/02/2013, 03:47 PM
They are doing rotifers. No mysis. I asked about that last time I was in there. I have not found live mysis yet.
Reeferhead
12/02/2013, 04:27 PM
Figures, brine and rotifers are easy... mysis, not so much :( I think all the big culturing facilities are by the coast as mysis are a standard go to for marine toxicity testing. I'm taking a shot in the dark hoping someone knows of anyone culturing them a little closer.
hampmp
12/02/2013, 06:25 PM
I would call them have an entire facility in west port specifically for developing and growing live foods.
u4ick
12/02/2013, 06:34 PM
Why you needing live?
What ya up to?

Aquaculture Farms out of Fl is the only place I am aware of, and them little buggers aren't cheap. Around $40 for 200+ shrimp.
Reeferhead
12/02/2013, 07:48 PM
Why you needing live?
What ya up to?

Aquaculture Farms out of Fl is the only place I am aware of, and them little buggers aren't cheap. Around $40 for 200+ shrimp.

Thinking of Sepia bandensis for the 60, not sure yet though, weighing my options
twiggyb
12/02/2013, 07:50 PM
Doooo iiiiit
Reeferhead
12/02/2013, 08:06 PM
Doooo iiiiit

Only going to try if I have a realistic plan to continue the lifecycle...

Life is too short, particularly for cuttlefish ;)
u4ick
12/02/2013, 08:10 PM
Sweet!!!
oshanickreef
12/02/2013, 10:59 PM
What would they rate that on live aquaria? Lol sounds pretty awesome though!
hampmp
12/03/2013, 01:03 PM
Only going to try if I have a realistic plan to continue the lifecycle...

Life is too short, particularly for cuttlefish ;)

Check out this article gives good detail on setting up a culture and how to set it up to be sustaining in the long term.

http://www.seahorse.org/library/articles/mysisCulturing.shtml
reefergeorge
12/04/2013, 12:37 AM
I had to order mine weekly from Florida. I had 12 cuttlefish for tw months until I switched to frozen and they started dropping one after another. Seascape got me eggs in for less than a buck each, but after 2 months I have about $300 worth of food in them.

they are cool but I recommend an octopus if you like cephs.
reefergeorge
12/04/2013, 12:40 AM
You can't culture mysis, they are cannibalistic. They collect them weekly for shipping.
bradleym
12/04/2013, 08:08 AM
You can culture them if you cull them by size. I once saw a waterfall system with each tray using a smaller filter to pull the smallest ones to the bottom. You would use up the top tray then rotate it to the bottom.
Reeferhead
12/04/2013, 08:33 AM
You can culture them but its more trouble than its worth for the average hobbyist. Here's one place that sells cultured mysids. The prices are about on par with the wild collected ones. Plus you get the added bonus of getting them all about the same size, which may cut down the cannibalism a bit.

http://www.eco-aquatics.com/mysidinfo.html

George,
I'm assuming you still have a few left alive? Are they S. bandensis? Did you get them to take anything larger than mysis yet?

Relatively speaking $26 per cuttle for 2 months isn't that bad. How many of us here have bought a $50+ fish only to find it dead the next day? :lol: :( Getting them switched over to frozen seems to be the trick though. From what I've been reading, attempting too early tends to lead to issues, perhaps lacking something in the frozen diet. Did you enrich with anything?

I think octos are cool as well but they're not for me for multiple reasons I won't bore you with.
reefergeorge
12/04/2013, 12:30 PM
Thanks for the information.
They were S.bandensis, but none made it. I ordered shore shrimp twice but didn't have the cash to keep that up. I got them on PE mysids asap and made sure they were all eating well, but in my opinion the frozen was lacking something.

If I tried it again, I'd probably just get a few and focus my energy. People made it sound like the hatchlings are hard to keep, so I figured some would die early. They didn't.
Reeferhead
12/04/2013, 01:54 PM
Yeah the all of the frozen mysids out on the market (including PE) are freshwater species, my gut tells me that has something to do with it. I've read of several successful accounts that claimed soaking the PE mysis in selcon before feeding was the key, makes sense.

Did you have any cannibalism issues with the live mysids? What did you feed them?