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zachfishman
01/20/2014, 07:57 PM
I honestly thought it'd start in south FL, but nuts... Xenia is now in the Caribbean. Hopefully it crashes.

Couldn't it at least be pulsing Xenia? :hmm4:

[There's a reason links to that site don't work--Bill]

billsreef
01/21/2014, 10:16 AM
Zach,

Do you have a link to any verifiable information other than an article by someone that has been known to go press with no fact checking?

billsreef
01/21/2014, 10:28 AM
Found a properly cited article, though I don't have time to check out the citations yet.

http://www.reef2rainforest.com/2014/01/15/invasive-indo-pacific-xenia-spreading-in-caribbean/

I don't know what the state of the industry or hobby is in the are this invasive got it's start, but the starting point is home to a major shipping shipping base and a naval base. Makes it hard to rule out the old fashioned common means of spread and solely pin the blame on the aquarium industry.

zachfishman
01/21/2014, 10:30 AM
Found a properly cited article, though I don't have time to check out the citations yet.

http://www.reef2rainforest.com/2014/01/15/invasive-indo-pacific-xenia-spreading-in-caribbean/

I don't know what the state of the industry or hobby is in the are this invasive got it's start, but the starting point is home to a major shipping shipping base and a naval base. Makes it hard to rule out the old fashioned common means of spread and solely pin the blame on the aquarium industry.

Yep, here's the published Coral Reefs article: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00338-013-1122-1/fulltext.html

SGT_York
01/21/2014, 03:23 PM
I can't imagine venezuela has that many hobby reef tanks, maybe a few shark tanks via the local crime syndicates.

Reeferhead
01/21/2014, 03:56 PM
Yep, here's the published Coral Reefs article: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00338-013-1122-1/fulltext.html

I'm confused, this is the whole report/article?!

I agree the jump to blame the aquarium hobby without providing any supporting evidence is ill-considered. Regardless, this is scary stuff.

billsreef
01/21/2014, 07:03 PM
Yep, here's the published Coral Reefs article: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00338-013-1122-1/fulltext.html

Thanks for digging up the original article. Be curious what leads them to think it was introduced by "commercial aquarists", other than xenia being common in aquariums.

jdhuyvetter
01/22/2014, 06:24 PM
Ditto to what Bill said. We all know how much Venezuela is a "hot bed" of commercial coral farming!

GreshamH
01/23/2014, 12:01 PM
Found a properly cited article, though I don't have time to check out the citations yet.

http://www.reef2rainforest.com/2014/01/15/invasive-indo-pacific-xenia-spreading-in-caribbean/

I don't know what the state of the industry or hobby is in the are this invasive got it's start, but the starting point is home to a major shipping shipping base and a naval base. Makes it hard to rule out the old fashioned common means of spread and solely pin the blame on the aquarium industry.

IIRC its rather hard to export MO into that VZ. I suspect bilge myself.