2 petco Gigs

[hecdr34]

Hi, I learned from a member here that a Petco in our area had a few gigs so I decided to go check them out. They had 4 but only 2 looked decent so I took them home. I setup a 10g TT with DT water and started Cipro treatment. Are these normal behaviors for newly introduced Gigs? thanks

Here's a video from about 11:30 pm to 5:30 am.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2nRBMXrM2Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[MelloW33]

I'd say those look normal for new gigs. Good luck!

[homegrownREEFER]

Good thing you picked them up! They look really good!

[hecdr34]

I'd say those look normal for new gigs. Good luck!

thanks

[hecdr34]

Good thing you picked them up! They look really good!

Thank you for leading me to them. Here's a few pics 30 minutes after the light turned on.

[homegrownREEFER]

Not a problem all. They are looking really good, making me think twice about passing up on them haha. Only thing is I'm not sure if I could keep them in my tank. Keep the updates coming, I'd like to see them in the dt soon.

[nemmy]

Mannnnnn why's my Petco so laammeee

[Reefvette]

Hey i dont think those are gigantea, they kinda look like atlantic carpet anemones.

[hecdr34]

Please don't tell me that

[Reefvette]

i just pmd you txt me

[davocean]

First post 2nd pic from left on the cup, those purple spots are typical of a gig, pretty sure that is what you have.
Look to be in good shape from what I can tell.

[D-Nak]

First post 2nd pic from left on the cup, those purple spots are typical of a gig, pretty sure that is what you have.
Look to be in good shape from what I can tell.

They actually look like a burnt orange to me, which is indicative of helianthus.

I would like to see more photos of the verrucae. What color are they? Hard to tell in the photos. The nems appear to be gigs in some photos, but have characteristics of helianthus in other photos -- especially the later photos where the tentacles appear to be very evenly spaced.

[Reefvette]

D-nak is def on the right track im pretty sure they are atlantic. I have seen gigantea haddoni and mertens look purpleish in different lighting.

[hecdr34]

I think he's absolutely right. $25 each takes them :)

[D-Nak]

I think he's absolutely right. $25 each takes them :)

Yes, these photos confirm the helianthus ID. Sorry.

[hecdr34]

Sucks for me... lol

Thanks guys

[homegrownREEFER]

Wow man what a bummer. Sorry

[davocean]

Bummer, well chalk up another ID lesson.

[homegrownREEFER]

I think it would be great if someone was bored enough to compile a list of the clown hosting nems ID guide so that we could sticky. Kinda like what to look for in ID'ing them such as certain feature on each nem. I would but I'm not experienced enough with nems.

[hecdr34]

That would be a good idea. I think I could definitely use it...lol

[OrionN]

I am sorry also. You are not the first one nor the last one who mis-ID Atlantic Carpet. I guess you can always take them back.

[hecdr34]

I just came back from my local Petco that I never go to in the corner of my house and the 1st thing I see is this anemone. I was told they just received it a few hours ago and it looks like a Gigantea but then again that's wishful thinking like the last time...lol

What do you guys think it is?

[D-Nak]

I just came back from my local Petco that I never go to in the corner of my house and the 1st thing I see is this anemone. I was told they just received it a few hours ago and it looks like a Gigantea but then again that's wishful thinking like the last time...lol

What do you guys think it is?

If the color is somewhat accurate, I'd say it's a gig.

[hecdr34]

The color is 100% accurate. It doesn't look to good but for $22.50 I'll take my chances. It's about 12"

[D-Nak]

For that price I'd give it a shot too. Good luck. I know what you're doing this weekend.

[hecdr34]

Lol. Thank you. I'm putting a chair and a small fridge with some alchoholic beverages right next to the tank...lol

The chances are slim because of the condition it's in but you never know.

[OrionN]

It is a Gigantea for sure

[DasCamel]

I think it would be great if someone was bored enough to compile a list of the clown hosting nems ID guide so that we could sticky. Kinda like what to look for in ID'ing them such as certain feature on each nem. I would but I'm not experienced enough with nems.

[hecdr34]

It has not deflated but it doesn't look good at all.

[hecdr34]

pics

[OrionN]

He does not look too bad. Hope he will turn around quickly for you.

[xtlosx]

He does not look too bad. Hope he will turn around quickly for you.

I agree actually.. He actually looks pretty good.. don't give up hope.

[hecdr34]

That's good news coming from you guys.

I put a 21w Par38 led bulb over it today and it responded pretty good to the light so tomorrow I will put a 150w pendant over it to see how it does. I will be shocked if it survives to be honest. I've seen some here look 100× better and don't make it. This one even has a few rips on the side to make things worse . We will soon find out though. I'll add a picture in a few minutes to show you how it looks after the light have been off for 2 hours

[hecdr34]

It closes the mouth very fast when I turn on the lights

[OrionN]

You be surprise. As long as the bacterial response to antibiotic and as long as the anemone not servery damage, they will bounce back.

[D-Nak]

You be surprise. As long as the bacterial response to antibiotic and as long as the anemone not servery damage, they will bounce back.

+1. This one definitely has the potential to make it. Sending good vibes your way...

[hecdr34]

Thanks guys. I hope you guys are right. I will take some pics in the morning before lights turn on and after lights have been on for a few hours. Thanks

[hecdr34]

It was fully deflated with the mouth open this morning for the first time. It might be letting out the last of the crap inside or it might have started the deflating/inflating cycles :(

I did a 50% water change and placed a 150w halide over it and I'm hoping it looks better when I get home at 9am. Pics to come

[OrionN]

Add med when you change water. Try to do it right before the might cycle since the med degraded with light. However, it you change during the day then add med then also. It is likely that have too high med dose probably won't harm the anemone, but I don't know for sure. Other reefer have dipped them with much higher dose than we use without apparent harm, at least from the one that posted.

[hecdr34]

Ok will do. I will do 100% water change now and add Cipro. I will turn off the lights for today and give it a full cipro day. Lights will go back in tomorrow as it didn't respond to the light in a positive way today. Here's a pic of it after it fully deflated

[worm5406]

What type lights and how much are they turned up/on?

[hecdr34]

Saturday morning 21w led Par38 bulb

Sunday morning 150w mh + 4 t5 bulbs for about 4 hours but it didn't respond good so I turned it off did 100% water change and added cipro.

Monday morning I will place the 150w halide over it again and see what happens

[taylor t]

Saturday morning 21w led Par38 bulb



How was the response with this light?

[hecdr34]

It responded positively but I think it was reaching a little bit asking for more light. Here's a pic taken right now in the completely dark room

[OrionN]

He is looking a lot better already

[hecdr34]

The mouth is still a little open but it is looking much better. Hopefully tomorrow when the lights go on it responds better than today

[hecdr34]

Not looking good today. It was deflated and letting out a lot of crap. Here go some pics from this morning and one from now with lights on.

[hecdr34]

At 2 pm I will do a 80% water change then add Cipro and then it goes in complete darkness until tomorrow morning. I won't give up until the gigantea gives up first

[Reefvette]

I would reccomend doing a 100 percent water change, you have very cloudy water which is a sign of stress and the anemone is releasing stuff into the water.

[Pinkskunk]

that is the right attitude.

...... I won't give up until the gigantea gives up first

[hecdr34]

I did a 100% water change and added Cipro. Thanks Barry

[hecdr34]

Another one bites the dust

[xtlosx]

Another one bites the dust

Makes me wonder if this guy would have done better with a LOT less light initially under cipro..

Sorry for your loss.

[hecdr34]

I treaded it with Cipro from day one. I tried out different lights and it definitely responded better to the lower light

[xtlosx]

I treaded it with Cipro from day one. I tried out different lights and it definitely responded better to the lower light

Not saying anything about cipro, but I have even seen leaving the tank almost dark, if not ambient lighting for several days (depending on the gig).

For our green Gig, I didn't have to cipro, but he went under 135W of LEDs right away, full on with no issues.. He didn't look like yours does though. It all comes down to the individual animal. Some need a nice dark place until they get stronger, some don't need it and are ready from day one.

[hecdr34]

Thinking about it now I think I should have left it in the dark for a few days. When it was in the dark it was always fully inflated but when lights went on it usually shrunk a little. Les son learned wuth this one but they are all different and some may respond to light better than others and that's a decision we have to make very fast. Lots of light, low light or even complete darkness

[xtlosx]

Thinking about it now I think I should have left it in the dark for a few days. When it was in the dark it was always fully inflated but when lights went on it usually shrunk a little. Les son learned wuth this one but they are all different and some may respond to light better than others and that's a decision we have to make very fast. Lots of light, low light or even complete darkness

We just need to do what the animal tells us, or watch their behavior. If they behave well in darkness after cipro, start out slow. With the Mag I treated, during day 1-3 when it looked awful, I kept my LED fixture a good 2-3' above the tank. So it got light, but a TINY bit... I slowly raised it, and raised it.

On the green gig which was just QT'd and not treated, I started with 135W of LED brightness baking it basically about 6-7" above it with no ill effects.

Listen to our animals.. that's what we need to do.

[kjamaya]

Great read. My petco carries gigs from time to time. Where did you buy your cipro from and what are the recommended dosage for cipro per gallon?

[xtlosx]

Great read. My petco carries gigs from time to time. Where did you buy your cipro from and what are the recommended dosage for cipro per gallon?

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