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NastyZ
05/30/2014, 05:26 PM
So just got my Rw15 in today and I thought id do a quick review/vs Wp40 (these are my opinions and you don't have to agree just giving my thoughts on it)

Size

Rw wins, the Rw is slimmer and shorter

Noise

Rw wins big, my Wp was not loud but you could certainly hear a hum (some Wp40s took a while to break in and then quieted down but mine always had a hum to it) the Rw is pretty quiet still a very very slight hum but not like the Wp40

Adjustability

Wp wins, you can adjust the Wp line in some many variations which I really liked the Rw line is up and down no side to side or diagonal aiming

Flow

Rw wins, the flow on the Rw is really nice it has a wide flow not too concentrated and it's stronger then the Wp40 when you have your hand in front of it but the Wp40 has a more concentrated steam so it push water further/faster

Controller

Rw wins, the Rw line has the sync feature that can link 8 controllers at onces making one of the controller the master Also has the night sensor already built in and has some other new modes

Note: one big thing I thought they would've improve but didn't is being able to control the flow on else mode you can not you'll need a dimmer mod if you want to control the flow on else

Conclusion

The Rw is a very nice pump for the money I'm over all happy with the pump smaller and more compact then the Wp40, very quiet, push a ton of water, nice wide flow and they added some nice features to the controller wish it didn't lose the adjustability of the Wp and else mode was controllable but I'm sure jebao will be coming out with another version soon they improved overall on the Wp design


Sorry for the pics probably should have taken better ones before I put it in my tank oh well you guys the gist of it

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/fmunguia101/8AE449A8-5280-4C53-8701-68162793E596_zpszxmdrhrj.jpg (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/fmunguia101/media/8AE449A8-5280-4C53-8701-68162793E596_zpszxmdrhrj.jpg.html)

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Drae
05/30/2014, 06:01 PM
Looks like a vortech/tunze hybrid. Good write up BTW

solarwrx
05/30/2014, 06:45 PM
got mine in yesterday , i agree !!! awesom pump

but be aware the pump has some serous flow !!! i will have my rw15 for sale on monday i had to order the rw8 instead

on the lowest setting on the rw15 it still blows the sand every where, on full blast the fish would surf the waves at the top and over flow the tank.

rw8 is more then enough for most tanks out there and smaller in size.

great buy though !!!

NastyZ
05/30/2014, 06:53 PM
Yea it is a strong pump works great for me tho I'm BB so the more flow the better has great undertow I have it in my 90gal

Syntax1325
05/31/2014, 05:17 AM
Would 2 15's be too much for a 6' long 125 gallon tank? Almost 4k gph each! That's a lot!

NastyZ
05/31/2014, 05:37 AM
Would 2 15's be too much for a 6' long 125 gallon tank? Almost 4k gph each! That's a lot!

For me no (I used to have 2wp40s and 3 hydors 1400s in my 90 my tanks BB) but most would say a rw15 and rw8 or 2 rw8

Syntax1325
05/31/2014, 06:04 AM
The 15's have about 500gph more than the wp-40's. I'm not sure how one 8 and one 15 would work together? Two 15's does seem excessive, especially with a 1200gph from return.

NastyZ
05/31/2014, 01:49 PM
If it were me I'd go with two rw15s you can always turn them down with a led dimmer and the size difference from the 15 to the 8 is 1/2in

DavidinGA
05/31/2014, 01:53 PM
Wow that really sucks that you can't move the new model around as much to get the perfect directional flow you want.

Love the smaller look tho.

NastyZ
05/31/2014, 02:00 PM
Yea only down side I think they did that so they could put the rubber in between to reduce some of the noise but you can turn the powerhead but you'll also be turning the cord which isn't a problem for me since I have mine on my back wall but if you have them on the side glass it can be a problem since the cord would be off to the side

ca1ore
05/31/2014, 05:21 PM
OK, so I haven't actually tried one, but from looking at the pictures, I see no reason why these new units ought not be equally flexible in terms of directed flow.

NastyZ
05/31/2014, 08:26 PM
They are hinged to the sides unlike wp line that had multiple pressure locking positions

shifty51008
05/31/2014, 08:51 PM
all you have to do is turn the magnet and you'll be able to get angles,

NastyZ
06/01/2014, 10:58 AM
Yea any by doing so you'll also have to turn the cord significantly and if you have it mounted on the side of your tank it can make it look ugly since the cord will be coming out the side instead of the top then you still will only have the limited adjustability if you have it mounted on the back wall (which I do) there isn't really a big issue with seeing the cord unless your back isn't painted or it blue

tmantaylor18
06/06/2014, 12:52 AM
Is fish street the best place to buy these?

Linkblaze
06/06/2014, 01:14 AM
Is fish street the best place to buy these?

I would suggest Reef Breeders. It's where I got mine, they're here on the RC forums and they speak English.

NastyZ
06/06/2014, 06:35 AM
Is fish street the best place to buy these?

Got mine from reef breeders and a yr warranty

ca1ore
06/06/2014, 06:43 AM
Yea any by doing so you'll also have to turn the cord significantly and if you have it mounted on the side of your tank it can make it look ugly since the cord will be coming out the side instead of the top then you still will only have the limited adjustability if you have it mounted on the back wall (which I do) there isn't really a big issue with seeing the cord unless your back isn't painted or it blue

That is true of the WP units also though.

docstach
06/06/2014, 09:43 AM
Is fish street the best place to buy these?

That is where I got my WPs, very happy with the service I got.

NastyZ
06/06/2014, 10:06 AM
That is true of the WP units also though.
All you had to do it tilt the cord it was still in the upright position with the rw the cord will be coming out the side big difference

twistedfinn967
06/06/2014, 10:07 AM
Is fish street the best place to buy these?
I got my RW8 from Reefbreeders. I have bought from them before and Logan is a good dude. He will take care of you.

Adrnalnrsh
06/11/2014, 03:18 PM
got mine in yesterday , i agree !!! awesom pump

but be aware the pump has some serous flow !!! i will have my rw15 for sale on monday i had to order the rw8 instead

on the lowest setting on the rw15 it still blows the sand every where, on full blast the fish would surf the waves at the top and over flow the tank.

rw8 is more then enough for most tanks out there and smaller in size.

great buy though !!!

what size tank?

Adrnalnrsh
06/11/2014, 03:56 PM
Yea it is a strong pump works great for me tho I'm BB so the more flow the better has great undertow I have it in my 90gal

Are you running any of these yet, I have the same setup and am trying to decide on RW-8's or 15's.

NastyZ
06/11/2014, 04:08 PM
Im using the rw15 right now and will probably get a 8 later down the road or a wp25 do you have a standard 90 or a shallow like mine

Adrnalnrsh
06/11/2014, 04:10 PM
Im using the rw15 right now and will probably get a 8 later down the road or a wp25 do you have a standard 90 or a shallow like mine

Standard 90. So 24" tall.

I have 3 Koralias and 1 WP40 but I don't care for my flow patterns.

NastyZ
06/11/2014, 04:23 PM
Yea my tank is 48x30x14 so it's wide I have 6 1400 koralias and a rw15 a friend of mine has a standard 90 and is using 2 rw8s but he's not BB if your bB I would get a 15

Adrnalnrsh
06/11/2014, 04:25 PM
Then it shall be!

dgelz
06/13/2014, 04:59 PM
Same boat...what to buy the 8s or the 15s? Got a 150g 60X30wX20h. Thinking of two rw15s. Would this be too much. I've got 150lbs of Fiji pink on the bottom.

NastyZ
06/13/2014, 06:21 PM
My tank is 14" high and I think if I had a shallow sand bed it wouldn't kick to much sand the flow is really wide so you shouldn't have a problem with the 15s but that's just my opinion

degibson84
06/15/2014, 05:21 AM
I have a 220 and currently run a 40 and a 25. 2 40s was too much for my tank. Now that I'm dabbling in sps was thinking of upping the flow maybe replacing the 25 with an 8 to add a little more flow.

NastyZ
06/15/2014, 08:35 AM
If your wp25 is working fine I wouldn't even bother I would get a 15 and dial it down I guess cuz I'm BB flow is different for me I at one point had 2 wp40s and 3 evo 1400s in my 90 and loved it

saltfishguy18
06/15/2014, 08:23 PM
If your wp25 is working fine I wouldn't even bother I would get a 15 and dial it down I guess cuz I'm BB flow is different for me I at one point had 2 wp40s and 3 evo 1400s in my 90 and loved it


I have a standard 90 also. I have been going back and forth of either getting two 8's or two 15's. Pricing isn't that big and I kinda like the idea of having two 15's because you can slow these down really slow and run them at like 40%. Better to have the option of more power then not. I have an sps system so I think I'm gonna go for the 15's. I have 1 wp40 now and 2 koralia 1400s currently.

maddmaxx
06/15/2014, 09:00 PM
I have a 220 and currently run a 40 and a 25. 2 40s was too much for my tank. Now that I'm dabbling in sps was thinking of upping the flow maybe replacing the 25 with an 8 to add a little more flow.

really 2x40s was to much flow??? ive seen many recommendations for 2xwp60s for a standard 220g tank....

s2nhle
06/16/2014, 11:32 AM
Hi, I have a BB 93g cube 30x30x24, would 2 rw8s or 2 rw15 better for it? Thanks for suggestion.

Adrnalnrsh
06/16/2014, 12:37 PM
Hi, I have a BB 93g cube 30x30x24, would 2 rw8s or 2 rw15 better for it? Thanks for suggestion.

SPS or LPS or both?

NastyZ
06/16/2014, 01:22 PM
Hi, I have a BB 93g cube 30x30x24, would 2 rw8s or 2 rw15 better for it? Thanks for suggestion.

I would go 15s sense your tank is wide like mine and besides the size difference between the two is minimal (I think 1/2in shorter)

degibson84
06/16/2014, 01:45 PM
really 2x40s was to much flow??? ive seen many recommendations for 2xwp60s for a standard 220g tank....

Yes it was blowing my fish and sand all over the place.

I run mine in else mode for random flow and whe. The 40 Ramps up the fish would go for wild rides

dgelz
06/16/2014, 08:21 PM
found two mp40's for a smoking deal, and with a rimless tank I'd be silly not to go with the wireless setup for the price I got these for.
I DO NOT LIKE THE NOISE OF THESE MP40'S, HOWEVER! Wow...they are super loud compared to jebao.

Syntax1325
06/23/2014, 05:07 AM
Bump!

Any thoughts on a which model for a 6 foot 125 gallon with a fairly open aqua scape and about 1000gph return flow?

Robb in Austin
06/23/2014, 05:19 AM
Depends on what you want to keep.

I've been running my 15's for a week on my 215 (72x24x29) to rinse the sand and had 2 large piles of sand form. (The sand was the only thing in there.) I had the units placed about 8-10" down from the top rim. Prior to adding the sand they were moving water all the across the tank even aimed at each other.

galkito
06/23/2014, 01:55 PM
Hello guys, I just want to ask, if you set the flow it in a lower level (level 2-3), and if the power goes out, when the electricity comes back, will it come back at the same level, or a different one?

NastyZ
06/23/2014, 03:26 PM
Bump!

Any thoughts on a which model for a 6 foot 125 gallon with a fairly open aqua scape and about 1000gph return flow?

I would always recommend 2 rw15s for anything over 4ft (especially on a sps tank) it's just .5in bigger and a lot more power you can always run it on a lower setting

NastyZ
06/23/2014, 03:26 PM
Hello guys, I just want to ask, if you set the flow it in a lower level (level 2-3), and if the power goes out, when the electricity comes back, will it come back at the same level, or a different one?

I don't know I'll try it out and see what happens

NastyZ
06/23/2014, 03:30 PM
Hello guys, I just want to ask, if you set the flow it in a lower level (level 2-3), and if the power goes out, when the electricity comes back, will it come back at the same level, or a different one?

Just tried it (unplugged it and plugged it back it) and it went back to my selected setting

james30ct
06/23/2014, 06:46 PM
I had a wp-40 fail so I purchased a rw15. I have a rw-15 and a wp-40 on a 155g and I like it so far. I have the rw-15 dialed back a little but it still moves some serious water.

galkito
06/25/2014, 05:49 AM
Just tried it (unplugged it and plugged it back it) and it went back to my selected setting

Thanks!

guric1van
06/29/2014, 10:17 PM
If you have 2 tanks in the same room, can you have 2 master (1 per tank), with a slave selecting which master to link to? Or can you only have one master per space?

NastyZ
06/29/2014, 10:24 PM
I would think you could only run one master unless the room you have is pretty big and there far apart from each other they all run on the same frequency

woods9
07/02/2014, 12:13 PM
I'm in doubt if I should buy a WP40 or a RW15

I've read some problems in forums about failures with the rw15 controller, due it's new released. And I think is because it's a new product.

on the other hand the wp40 is stable in its performance

what do you suggest?

wcharon
07/02/2014, 12:27 PM
I am in the same bought thinking to replace my WP 40's but last week 1 WP40 died after 8 months of use and weekly cleaning. But excellent service fron Fish Street replacing it for $25.00.

Tried to get a credit for the RW15 but wasn't sucessful.

saltfishguy18
07/03/2014, 12:52 PM
I just replaced my 1 wp 40 with to rw 8's last night. So far so good. They are so much smaller than my old 40 but they move a ton of water

toky916
07/03/2014, 01:30 PM
I just replaced my 1 wp 40 with to rw 8's last night. So far so good. They are so much smaller than my old 40 but they move a ton of water

Are they comparable to the wp-40 or should i get the 15 for a standard 120?

saltfishguy18
07/03/2014, 08:33 PM
A single rw 8 is not as powerful as the 40. I would prob go with the 15's if I were you though.

Robb in Austin
07/03/2014, 09:45 PM
A 15 is probably more than enough for a 4ft 120.

whosurcaddie
07/04/2014, 06:05 AM
The RW-15's are now on amazon at the cheapest price ive seen 94.99. Just bought a 15 myself for my 120 had two wp-25's before thinking of moving one 25 to the back glass well see how it goes. excited to try out the new beast.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L6J7PZ2/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

NastyZ
07/04/2014, 07:25 AM
I would still get it at reefbreeders they give you a yr warranty more then worth the 6 extra bucks

woods9
07/04/2014, 08:27 AM
I had a wp-40 fail so I purchased a rw15. I have a rw-15 and a wp-40 on a 155g and I like it so far. I have the rw-15 dialed back a little but it still moves some serious water.

at this moment, which one do you recomend?? WP40 or RW15? because I haven't decided yet which one I'll buy it

NastyZ
07/04/2014, 08:41 AM
^^^ If I had a tank longer then 4ft I would go with the wp40 because it has a more concentrated steam and will reach the other side of the tank a lot easier if 4ft or shorter id get a rw15 nice wide flow one other thing to consider is how you plan on angling the power head if your aquascape is open it's easier to point the rws if you have a more complicated aquascape it can be hard to adjust the rws since it only goes up and down or if turned sideway left to right the wps will have a big advantage in aiming

woods9
07/04/2014, 09:27 AM
^^^ If I had a tank longer then 4ft I would go with the wp40 because it has a more concentrated steam and will reach the other side of the tank a lot easier if 4ft or shorter id get a rw15 nice wide flow one other thing to consider is how you plan on angling the power head if your aquascape is open it's easier to point the rws if you have a more complicated aquascape it can be hard to adjust the rws since it only goes up and down or if turned sideway left to right the wps will have a big advantage in aiming

that's a good point.
Actually my tank it's 60ft long, with a peninsular aquascape. That's why i put a vortech mp40 in the rear glass in one side, so the water flows in waves in the top and the side where is the vortech, but in the other side the water returns almost in a laminar flow.

that's why i was looking for a jebao to put it in the other side than the vortech, so it breaks the return flow. And i was thinking that with a rw with wider flow it will help me, because if not the flow of both vortech and jebao will be to much for the front of the tank.

I hope I was clear about my doubt, hahaha

Robb in Austin
07/04/2014, 10:06 AM
A RW15 will reach the end of a 6ft tank. I know because it is doing so on mine.

woods9
07/04/2014, 11:31 AM
A RW15 will reach the end of a 6ft tank. I know because it is doing so on mine.

ok, tks for your answer

is the magnet strong enough for a 19mm wide glass (almost 3/4")?

NastyZ
07/04/2014, 11:36 AM
A RW15 will reach the end of a 6ft tank. I know because it is doing so on mine.

And I bet a wp40 would reach it with a lot more flow behind it

NastyZ
07/04/2014, 11:37 AM
ok, tks for your answer

is the magnet strong enough for a 19mm wide glass (almost 3/4")?

Idk about the holding strength it holds really strong on my 1/2in glass have you thought about the wp60

Robb in Austin
07/04/2014, 12:48 PM
And I bet a wp40 would reach it with a lot more flow behind it

Perhaps. I've never had a WP. I do know my 2 RW15's are competing with each other (one on each end) and I still get flow on the end.

Justincasha
10/12/2014, 05:45 AM
Hi,
I have a 2meter long tank with 80cm wide and 60cm high. Aquascape is like two islands on each side, still have plenty of room from back and front side. Right now i run 5 Korallia's and jebao WP 25 I have these 3 on the back and three on the front side of the same side. I wish to replace all with just two jebao wp40 or RW15 what are your toughts? I would mount them on just one side... Thanks for any help

carlso63
10/12/2014, 09:12 AM
How does the rw15 compare against the wp40 in the wave modes (w1 / w2 / w3)? Better, worse, pretty much the same?

I run a single wp40 in my own 90g right now, set on w1 or w2 continuously... I am very happy with it, I am able to get that 'wave' ebbing flow throughout the tank with just the 1 pump. Been running 17 months w/o any problems.

Corals seem to love that pulsing 'wave' flow as well. So, not a lot of incentive to change anything.

But if the rw15 is at least as good as the wp40 in this aspect, it might persuade me to pull the trigger - since the 15 would take up less space in the tank (and probably look a little less conspicuous on the side glass where the 40 is now)