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TheAngelfish
06/20/2014, 07:30 PM
My angel is laying on the bottom of my tank. He is in a 50 gallon Qt while my 135 is being set up and i just put him in there:worried2: 1 hour ago

HumbleFish
06/20/2014, 08:07 PM
First thing is to test for ammonia in the 50 gal QT. If that is 0, then elaborate on what "just put him in there" means. Where did you get him from? How was he transported? What was your acclimation procedure (very important)?

Do you notice anything visibly wrong with the fish (other than laying on the bottom)? Heavy breathing, dots on his skin, etc.? A pic (or video) might help.

Deinonych
06/20/2014, 08:19 PM
Definitely need more information. What is the salinity of the QT vs. the salinity of the transport bag? A good rule of thumb is to match the QT salinity to the bag water before putting the fish in.

TheAngelfish
06/20/2014, 09:06 PM
He died, The ammonia is 0 and the salinity is 23 ppm. I did a 1 hour and 30 min float and 1/2 a cup of water every 10 mins. He was breathing hard but no spots. R.I.P

SeedlessOne
06/20/2014, 09:33 PM
Why is your salintiy at 23? That's way too low and probably why he died.

Deinonych
06/20/2014, 10:17 PM
Salinity of 23ppt is 1.017 SG. Low, but not too low. Likely something else was the cause of death.

Aussieiniowa
06/20/2014, 10:24 PM
Did you de chlorinate the water?

HumbleFish
06/20/2014, 10:53 PM
I did a 1 hour and 30 min float and 1/2 a cup of water every 10 mins. He was breathing hard but no spots. R.I.P

If you were adding water to the bag, this means the bag had to be opened at some point. And if the fish had been in the bag a long time, ammonium would have converted to ammonia and done serious damage to that fish's gills and ultimately kidneys. At least an hours worth if you did a 1 hr 30 min acclimation.

TheAngelfish
06/20/2014, 11:20 PM
If you were adding water to the bag, this means the bag had to be opened at some point. And if the fish had been in the bag a long time, ammonium would have converted to ammonia and done serious damage to that fish's gills and ultimately kidneys. At least an hours worth if you did a 1 hr 30 min acclimation. Well the was dumb mistake! Even worse this was my most tame fish

snorvich
06/21/2014, 04:48 AM
Quarantine SG should be matched to transport water SG and then only temperature acclimation of 15 minutes with bag closed should be done.

HumbleFish
06/21/2014, 08:42 AM
Quarantine SG should be matched to transport water SG and then only temperature acclimation of 15 minutes with bag closed should be done.

+1 Also, always have some Amquel or Prime on hand just in case things don't go as planned, and you are forced to SG acclimate the fish. Squirting a little Prime or Amquel in that bag would have neutralized any ammonia, and probably saved the fish's life.

snorvich
06/21/2014, 09:11 AM
+1 Also, always have some Amquel or Prime on hand just in case things don't go as planned, and you are forced to SG acclimate the fish. Squirting a little Prime or Amquel in that bag would have neutralized any ammonia, and probably saved the fish's life.

For sure.