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Jmunk
12/15/2014, 02:53 PM
The way it stands right now, I cannot hang the fixture from the ceiling just because the tank is under a 45 degree angled wall.

I was wondering if anyone had some suggestions as to how to either obtain legs for the fixture, or if anyone has suspended the fixture any other way.

I REALLY would love to have this product, but with the current setup, hanging is almost impossible.

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q543/sp00ny1/IMG_0890_zps9a34e0b3.jpg

dwebster86
12/15/2014, 03:22 PM
Hanging it isn't impossible. Just make the 2 cords/chains on the one side of it longer than the other. Just have to figure out the 2 different lengths to where the light is level. But you can certaintely still hang it.

Jmunk
12/15/2014, 03:39 PM
Hanging it isn't impossible. Just make the 2 cords/chains on the one side of it longer than the other. Just have to figure out the 2 different lengths to where the light is level. But you can certaintely still hang it.
It's not so much that it won't be level side to side, but front to back. Since I'm assuming the part that goes into the ceiling goes in straight, the hook would be angled, causing the fixture to be crooked.

dwebster86
12/15/2014, 03:40 PM
No you don't have to put it in straight. Get long j or eye hooks and screw them in at an angle to where it's straight with the tank. Anchor them and you will be fine

Jmunk
12/15/2014, 03:47 PM
No you don't have to put it in straight. Get long j or eye hooks and screw them in at an angle to where it's straight with the tank. Anchor them and you will be fine
I'm inept at hardware/DIY

Can you post a pic/link of what you mean please?

dwebster86
12/15/2014, 03:49 PM
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-8-Zinc-Plated-Steel-Screw-Hook-25-Piece-per-Pack-803282/204273838?N=5yc1vZc2ew

http://www.homedepot.com/p/E-Z-Ancor-Twist-N-Lock-75-lb-Medium-Duty-Drywall-Anchors-50-Pack-25310/100040265?N=5yc1vZc2eq

Versions of those. Doesn't have to be those exact ones. You can get some eye hooks that are almost closed at the loop. Also longer.

d2mini
12/15/2014, 03:57 PM
Sunlight Supply Hanging Kit, if it has the screw holes on top.

http://www.aquacave.com/wire-suspension-hanging-kit-two-points-by-sunlight-supply.html

As stated above, the angle doesn't matter.

acabgd
12/15/2014, 04:10 PM
My ATI fixture has tiny screws on the hanging kit where you can angle the fixture. But it will still drop down percectly vertically from your angled ceiling. That might put a bit more stress on your hanging screws, but I don't see them as being weak if installed properly.

Jmunk
12/15/2014, 04:14 PM
My ATI fixture has tiny screws on the hanging kit where you can angle the fixture. But it will still drop down percectly vertically from your angled ceiling. That might put a bit more stress on your hanging screws, but I don't see them as being weak if installed properly.
Hmm, I'm still not being able to picture how it would screw into an angled wall.

The only way I can think of having come perfectly vertical is to have something angled flush on the wall, and then have it come out straight like a shelf.

Can you post pictures?

Jmunk
12/15/2014, 04:20 PM
Sunlight Supply Hanging Kit, if it has the screw holes on top.

http://www.aquacave.com/wire-suspension-hanging-kit-two-points-by-sunlight-supply.html

As stated above, the angle doesn't matter.
Yeah the guy I'm getting the ATI from is including the hanging kit, it's just for my setup, I can't envision how it can go into my angled wall when it's designed to go into flat ceilings.

I'm just dumb when it comes to this LOL

Toddrtrex
12/15/2014, 04:31 PM
If you can, imagine that "J-hook" that "dwebster86" posted screwed into the angled wall (( either hitting a stub, or with the use of an anchor --- DO NOT screw into drywall alone, it won't hold )).
Could attach an "S" hook to that, and the wires to that, or something similar.

I am hanging mine from my canopy. Used to "U" brackets through the wood, and "S" hooks to those;

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/210/Hanger1_zps7674c040.jpg

Jmunk
12/15/2014, 04:36 PM
If you can, imagine that "J-hook" that "dwebster86" posted screwed into the angled wall (( either hitting a stub, or with the use of an anchor --- DO NOT screw into drywall alone, it won't hold )).
Could attach an "S" hook to that, and the wires to that, or something similar.

I am hanging mine from my canopy. Used to "U" brackets through the wood, and "S" hooks to those;

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/210/Hanger1_zps7674c040.jpg
Gotcha, I can picture that.

My thing is that the wires ATI give you need to be screwed into the mount, instead of just that "u" suspension on either end of the fixture.

Unless I just put the mount in the angled ceiling like normal, and just have the wires bend so the fixtures straight?

acabgd
12/15/2014, 05:28 PM
Unless I just put the mount in the angled ceiling like normal, and just have the wires bend so the fixtures straight?
Exactly, that's what I was trying to say, but you've said it better. The wires are more than strong enough, will bend and drop down vertically. But as said above, you can't just screw into drywall, it won't hold.

Jmunk
12/15/2014, 06:37 PM
Exactly, that's what I was trying to say, but you've said it better. The wires are more than strong enough, will bend and drop down vertically. But as said above, you can't just screw into drywall, it won't hold.
Gotcha, ahah now I'll try that.

steventaylor702
12/16/2014, 10:00 AM
The way it stands right now, I cannot hang the fixture from the ceiling just because the tank is under a 45 degree angled wall.

I was wondering if anyone had some suggestions as to how to either obtain legs for the fixture, or if anyone has suspended the fixture any other way.

I REALLY would love to have this product, but with the current setup, hanging is almost impossible.

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q543/sp00ny1/IMG_0890_zps9a34e0b3.jpg

If you want a quick, easy, cheap, and descent looking way to hang it buy some conduit and put a 90 bend in it to make a place to put your hanging kit to. I can take pictures of mine if you want to see what it looks like all in all I only paid 20 bucks for the stuff to do it

d2mini
12/16/2014, 10:07 AM
Yeah the guy I'm getting the ATI from is including the hanging kit, it's just for my setup, I can't envision how it can go into my angled wall when it's designed to go into flat ceilings.

I'm just dumb when it comes to this LOL

It will mount at the angle, and your wires will hang straight down.
Here is mine on a vaulted ceiling...


http://bluelemonphoto.smugmug.com/photos/i-S3KcjMH/0/XL/i-S3KcjMH-XL.jpg

Jmunk
12/16/2014, 08:56 PM
It will mount at the angle, and your wires will hang straight down.
Here is mine on a vaulted ceiling...


http://bluelemonphoto.smugmug.com/photos/i-S3KcjMH/0/XL/i-S3KcjMH-XL.jpg
Yeah I got ya now, just gonna mount the two to the angled wall and let the wires straighten out. Thanks Dennis!

Jmunk
12/16/2014, 09:03 PM
Just as a pre assembly question:

How high do should you keep an 8 bulb fixture from the water? 6-9 inches?

mets17127
12/17/2014, 05:14 AM
You can also build a bracket with metal conduit screwed to the sides of your stand and connecting over the tank to hang the light from

d2mini
12/17/2014, 08:03 AM
Just as a pre assembly question:

How high do should you keep an 8 bulb fixture from the water? 6-9 inches?

I'd shoot for the higher end of that spectrum, maybe even a little higher, just to help reduce heat transfer to the water. But play with it and see what works. If you are using a kit similar to what I showed in the pic, it's height adjustable.