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Mylesweaver
12/16/2014, 08:28 PM
Has anyone been able to propogate a carnation coral? I have. I am now growing over a dozen juvenile. I have pics if anyone is interested

noy
12/17/2014, 07:54 AM
I wish you the best - most of us work hard at just keeping these corals alive.

Do post pics and details about your system.

Let us know your progress.

Mylesweaver
12/17/2014, 09:16 AM
I have had the two for about 9 months . I feed reef roids about 3-4 times a day and phyto feast probably 10 times a day.the new sprouts have been growing for about two months and grow a little every day.today they are bigger than yesterday.

herring_fish
12/17/2014, 03:54 PM
Yes Please post.

Have you looked at http://www.garf.org/1armci/dendro.html

Mylesweaver
12/17/2014, 04:57 PM
That's a cool sight. I wish I had more sights to get more info

Mylesweaver
12/17/2014, 04:59 PM
I don't know how to upload pics fromy iPhone to this page. Anyone

Samian
12/18/2014, 03:03 PM
Pics plz !!!!

herring_fish
12/18/2014, 04:02 PM
Can't you e-mail your pics to your computer and then upload them to this thread?

Whiterabbitrage
12/19/2014, 04:09 AM
Yes, pix please ( email them to your computer, upload to photobucket) and more details about your system. How the heck do you keep the water clean?

Very excited about your success! :bounce1:

Mylesweaver
12/19/2014, 07:44 AM
Bacteria!!!

Mylesweaver
12/19/2014, 07:53 AM
I dump food in my tank like 8-10 whole silver sides krill brine shrimp and a couple whole jumbo shrimp plus the reef roids and phyto every day. My tank is old with lots of live rock and lots of sand. Bacteria is the answer. No refugium cause plants won't grow.

Mylesweaver
12/19/2014, 08:08 AM
I don't do water changes either. I probably only done 10 10 gallon water changes in the past 10 years just because I was board.

GreshamH
12/29/2014, 12:57 PM
what species of phytoplankton are you feeding?

Mylesweaver
12/30/2014, 05:52 PM
Phyto feast and reef roids

Mylesweaver
12/30/2014, 06:00 PM
I feed a lot of frozen food that turns the water white after they eat. I never rinse my food.im guessing this is what kind of things they get in the wild.

Mylesweaver
12/30/2014, 06:36 PM
I can't figure out this picture stuff. I don't know why they make it so difficult.can I text it to someone so you can post it for me

Mylesweaver
12/30/2014, 06:41 PM
<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://s87.photobucket.com/user/my3boyzz1/embed/slideshow/"></iframe>

herring_fish
12/30/2014, 09:44 PM
They look great! How do you think that it happened?

Mylesweaver
12/30/2014, 09:52 PM
Feed and flow. A hearty start from aquarium world

herring_fish
12/30/2014, 10:35 PM
I don’t know how to ask the question correctly. Do you think that is was reproduction or did another one die there and those are growing from that?

Mylesweaver
12/30/2014, 11:47 PM
no thing died there . ive had the two for along time and the new group has grown in the past 2 months

Mylesweaver
12/30/2014, 11:48 PM
they come from the roots

Mylesweaver
12/31/2014, 12:16 AM
ya.

Bongo Shrimp
12/31/2014, 01:33 PM
I'm not so sure those are dendronephthya as the polyps are larger than most dendro polyps. I have had the same thing pop up as hitchhikers and they remain as a single polyp but send out an extension of tissue which forms a new polyp and then dissipates leaving a new solitary polyp.

Also, I wouldn't rush to call 10 months a success. You can keep a dendro "alive" for 6 months without feeding at all.

I don't have it with me but I will look up the name of this coral in Soft Corals and Sea Fans when I get home.

noy
01/01/2015, 12:22 PM
that's pretty outstanding.
They look like dendronephthya larva that's taken root. There is an article on coralscience on reproductive biology of dendronephthya. (can't post link - been warned) - you should check it out.

Plate D of the attached photo shows a larva of dendronephthya after some maturity - looks a lot like the growth you have.

You should post more about your system/husbandry. Lots of people have done reefroids + phyto feast w/o success.

I have to say from the photo (and its hard to tell) - your mother colony seems to be thin (and flopped over-which they do). Can you tell if your colony has grown or shrunk since initial purchase?

Mylesweaver
01/01/2015, 02:19 PM
The initial two shrunk the first month.after that they stayed the same size. About two months ago the top one leaned over after moved the wave maker. It looked like it was finding the best flow.the new colony is on the back side of the rock were the flow ramps off the back side of it. They get bigger every day. They look identical to the larger one from stem to top. They are not hitchhikers. They are new growth from the original. My idea of success is a thriving colony that grows so yes I say success.

Mylesweaver
01/01/2015, 02:28 PM
My system is about 15 years old with a ton of live rock very deep sand bio pellets skimmer and carbon. No water changes anymore. I've been using korallen-zucht products and I'm very happy with it.

Mylesweaver
01/01/2015, 07:25 PM
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herring_fish
01/01/2015, 08:40 PM
I have heard that they can grow like weeds in the wild, with the right conditions. It is amazing that you found out what to do.

I would guess that the babies will do better than the parents because they are adapted to the particular conditions that you have provided.

They are beautiful!

GreshamH
01/02/2015, 11:22 AM
The initial two shrunk the first month.after that they stayed the same size. About two months ago the top one leaned over after moved the wave maker. It looked like it was finding the best flow.the new colony is on the back side of the rock were the flow ramps off the back side of it. They get bigger every day. They look identical to the larger one from stem to top. They are not hitchhikers. They are new growth from the original. My idea of success is a thriving colony that grows so yes I say success.


Problem is, most "success" stories that have been posted, end up crashing by year two. That is why people don't consider your short time to be a success yet... hit the two year hurdle and you'll impress a lot more that are knowledgeable about this species ;)

herring_fish
01/02/2015, 12:47 PM
By that criteria, any success is almost non-existent to date.

You are absolutely 100% correct BUT……

This is really cool.

Mylesweaver
01/02/2015, 03:19 PM
I rarely have a failure in my tank. if I do its in the first month or so of purchase.i still have three pieces in my tank I bought in 98/99. im sure if they like it so far they will be fine.hopefully. they keep growing so we'll see.

Mylesweaver
01/02/2015, 03:28 PM
I rarely have a failure in my tank. if I do its in the first month or so of purchase.i still have three pieces in my tank I bought in 98/99. im sure if they like it so far they will be fine.hopefully. they keep growing so we'll see.

Mylesweaver
01/02/2015, 03:43 PM
I was originally wandering if I could frag these once there bigger or should they not be removed from the rock

Reef Frog
01/04/2015, 03:41 PM
It looks like you've done a rare thing, congratulations.

Personally I would not risk fragging at this point unless you have multiple polyps in several locations and can afford to lose a polyp or two. Maybe you can position a piece of rock, plug etc nearby and you'll get a volunteer.

I would imagine trying to scrape a polyp off with a razor could be risky. If you do frag I'd try to cut off a big rock plug underneath the polyp. Since so little is known about these corals, I wouldn't even risk exposing them to the air!

noy
01/11/2015, 03:08 PM
It looks like you've done a rare thing, congratulations.

Personally I would not risk fragging at this point unless you have multiple polyps in several locations and can afford to lose a polyp or two. Maybe you can position a piece of rock, plug etc nearby and you'll get a volunteer.

I would imagine trying to scrape a polyp off with a razor could be risky. If you do frag I'd try to cut off a big rock plug underneath the polyp. Since so little is known about these corals, I wouldn't even risk exposing them to the air!

Myles - can you post your water params - especially your NO3 and PO4 levels. I'd be interested in what kind of reading you are getting from a 15 year old system.

Mylesweaver
01/11/2015, 09:00 PM
All my cal. Alk. Mag. Ect are the usual levels. I don't test my nitrate and phosfate anymore because the test kits always test 0 and that can't be correct. Plus I read the phosfate test doesn't even test for the kind we are concerned about. My ph is 7.85-8.11 my temp is 77.9-78.0 my orp is 450-490 without ozone. I think the orp is about the best way to detect how clean your water is. If you monitor this number you can watch your tank get clean. If I let this number drop I start to have problems. Low number means a lot of bacteria which means a lot of food high number means less bacteria which means less food or nitrates and phosfate. So as you can see I find no more reason to test nitrate and phosfate.

Wonton Soup
02/04/2015, 10:24 AM
Very very impressive and essentially one of the first of it's kind. Never mind those saying success comes years from now. Even if it were to end up as a brief moment of success in the lifetime of your tank, you have accomplished something that hundreds of advanced aquarists around the world have never achieved!

You should certainly be trying to get in touch with many of those individuals to share what you've learned.

Congrats!

Samian
01/23/2016, 12:38 PM
Any news ????:sad2: