How long to QT an anemone to prevent fish diseases

[Agioniko]

How long do you QT an anemone before placing in main display.
Best,
Nick

[clorox]

You don't need to.
Depending on the anemone species (S.Gigantea, S.Haddoni and H.Magnifica) and you're unsure about their health it is safer to QT them in case you have to treat them with antibiotic.

[worm5406]

If you look over the first thread:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2271385

You will see some guidelines.

You should only treat/medicate sick anemones. With that being said you should start in the QT and observe and watch. This will also give you a chance to do a few WC to remove any issues with previous water.

From what I have seen on average QT for at least 7 days. While some say 3 and others more, it depends on the anemone and what you observe.

What type did you get?

Any pictures?

[1fstnsx]

I just aclimate them, reef dip them for 10 min and good to go. It's worked for me, YMMV.

[worm5406]

Do you mean Seachem Reef Dip?

I know it says it is ok for an anemone... That one just scares me. Other hard items I agree on.

That is just my opinion.

[1fstnsx]

Hey Worm, Yes Seachem reef dip. I haven't had any problem with it so far, but, like I said that's just me. =)

[Agioniko]

Id be scared to dip it. Im being paranoid, but just in case theres any crypto on it. Figured in three days it would go to free floating stage. Its a heteractis Magnfica. Ill get some pics tomorrow.

[Agioniko]

Worm I quickly looked at that sticky, but as you suspected did not read all the pages.

[worm5406]

Worm I quickly looked at that sticky, but as you suspected did not read all the pages.

It is ok. It is hard to make a thread and then go back and update just the first post. Sometimes people make notes like "Read post 23 for update."

As the forums get better and better things will change.

Keep on reefing!

[OrionN]

I think anemone does not carry fish disease. However the water that come with the anemone may. If you want to prevent fish disease, just make sure you don't add any of the water to the tank. Once you finish drip the anemone, just use tank water to "wash the anemone" a few times. I would fill the container with the anemone until the water cover it, then discard that water, fill it again, then discard the water. If you do this three to 5 times, the chance that the anemone addition cause fish disease to your tank is extremely low, if not nonexistent.

[worm5406]

If you do a few days of QT with a good 50% WC daily, it will wash out anything that it has inside it too.

[Agioniko]

Yeah the issue is I bought it from a fellow reefer and its attached to a rock.

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/23/f7b2de3190d8e346b570ac95c90e2fc5.jpg

[Agioniko]

There's a pic. Would live to get the experts opinions

[DasCamel]

If it's a known to be infected tank, follow,the time frame for fish. Ich 72 days, Brook 4-6 weeks for example. If its from a low risk tank, few days with water changes sounds great.

All it takes is one cyst or parasite and you'll really have some fun treating the DT. They won't directly attach the nem, but can be brought over on the rock or the water inside/outside the Nem.

Nice colors!

[OrionN]

If it is a well run disease free tank then just wash it a few times. If it is a tank with disease then I remove the anemone from the rock and put it in your tank after a few wash. That rock should not be hard to separate from the anemone.

[ca1ore]

I think on the continuum of risk of inverts carrying in a fish disease, anemones are at the very lowest end being entirely soft bodied. Not impossible, of course, but I do as OrionN suggested earlier to ensure that a minimum of shipping water gets into my tank.

[Agioniko]

I bought it from a fellow reefer so I'm not sure what the risk is. I doubt he had brook because he had other fish alive. Having trouble getting it off the rock. Any suggestions. I tried ice on the foot, but it barely did anything. Would you suggest aiming a low powered Pump at its base?

[Agioniko]

By the way I followed Orion's set up guide for setting up the tank. All the equipment is behind a plastic screen

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/24/ceb0c65f97310c58b9f3ae0b18da0699.jpg

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/24/0a6e3e86f81dbb2d50075ceabea80c57.jpg

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/24/e6f675933154de97a5eb7568ad620983.jpg

[Agioniko]

Geez turned on the light and the Ben is looking deflated, and it's mouth is wide open discharging black mucus.

[Agioniko]

Tentacles are deflated, and looks like there is no water in them

[OrionN]

I guess time to start treatment. Maybe he was just stressed and discharge zooxanthellae. Very nice looking anemone. Best of luck with him.

[Agioniko]

Will the rock affect antibiotics? Cipro 150 per 10 gallons at night for three days? Is that correct

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/24/d3246a6d804d4833a88d87c388aa790b.jpg

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/24/964344887182cfe1abb8c3152b7ad771.jpg

[Agioniko]

Looking better now that the lights are on. Would you still treat with antibiotics?

[D-Nak]

Treat for at least 5 days. Even though it looks better doesn't mean the antibiotic has fully eradicated the bad bacteria. A little more antibiotic typically doesn't harm the nem, but not enough in a single treatment cycle could potentially cause more harm or result in the death of a nem -- on some occasions the nem is too weak to fight off the bacteria the second time around.

[Agioniko]

Okay read the sticky. Started the first dose. Cipro 250 per 10 gallons. I'll keep you posted.

[Agioniko]

Anemone after day 1 of treatment
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/25/3a937810789e63a2f6f5781bc21f8829.jpg

[Agioniko]

Looking significantly healthier

[worm5406]

Put a coffee cup right at the edge of that, see if the anemone will vacate the rock.

Hard to say what the antibiotic may be doing to the items on the rock and ammonia levels.

Worth a shot at least.

[Agioniko]

Have a sea chem ammonia alert in the tank. Doing daily water changes. Ill try the coffee cup. Id prefer the rock out.

[worm5406]

Cup is sealed. No bacteria or hitchhikers in it, except maybe some coffee.

[Agioniko]

I meant the rock.
Ugh so the anemone was looking good after three doses of cipro, but this morning it's mouth is gaping open. And it looks like it's shedding a little bit. Ugh. Ill keep dosing the antibiotic

[worm5406]

Any updated pictures? Have you been siphoning the old water out? How much water have you been swapping for the water change?

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/27/e9bfae85843dfda97ecb4a5a01318c29.jpg

[Agioniko]

I've been taking out five gallons a day. I just raised the temp from 78 to 79. I can take out ten gallons not sure if that will make the difference. The anemone looks significantly better from this morning when I turned the lights on

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/27/7e57a4931cbc842785afcdde9e20b445.jpg

This is the anemone next to the coffee cup

[Agioniko]

Mouth was gaping open this morning. This is slightly less. Notice the discharge? Would you give a higher dose of cipro like the sticky suggests by one of the authors?

[D-Nak]

I think it looks okay. Unless it fully deflates, I would keep the dosage the same. The discharge is completely normal.

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/27/944f5a904b67a1ecd91095344a37304b.jpg

[Agioniko]

This is he anemone currently. I think raising the temp to 79 helped. I run my displays at 77.5. Will this be a problem? Would you bump up the display temp. My other nems don't seem to mind it.

[Agioniko]

Also thanks for all the help. Really appreciate it.

[OrionN]

I think the anemone looks OK. I would not increase the dosage of the medication. I keep my reef at 81 F. My fish anemones and corals doing just fine. Do you have to run a chiller to keep it that low?

[Agioniko]

No not at all. Really the opposite problem being in the North East and in an a basement that's 65 it's my heaters.

[Agioniko]

Orion is a 25% daily water change ok, or would you do a 50%?

[worm5406]

He looks really good! Glad things are doing good for you so far.

[DasCamel]

The temp is fine, stay on course looking good.

Is it deflating at all?

[Agioniko]

He's deflated in the morning. Hasn't looked as bad recently. Going to treat for the duration.

[worm5406]

Yes very good idea.

[Agioniko]

So have treated for 7 days with cipro. Should I keep treating. Last couple of days it's been looking great. Hasnt deflated at all

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/31/e9a0e788c0d724f4412178bd5fc34e56.jpg
From this morning

[Agioniko]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/31/91e3d39a18bf2e4e81574d52f5abea4f.jpg

[OrionN]

You can treat until he have not deflate for 3 or 4 days, then move to DT. He looks good.