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saltyjo
03/14/2015, 04:10 PM
Hello
I haven’t posted in a while but I wanted to document my latest activities. For the last three years I have managed to successfully breed and raise Ocellaris and Percula clownfish. Thanks to many of the home experts on this forum I have learned so much great information and some not so good information. 
Why
For the last year I have been gathering parts for a Clownfish Harem Tank that will house around 50 of my Ocellaris Clowns (number not exact right now due to losing count during their last tank transfer). Before the clownfish police and PETA start to bash and nay say, I want to let you know these clowns were hatched on Jan 30th of 2014 and have been together for a year and two months. I have done quite extensive research on the sexual development of Ocellaris and have a plan to keep aggression to a minimum. Right now I have 1% of these clown that have appeared to change to female however after they get transferred to their new tank I expect this number to increase slightly. If you still think this cannot be done and will result in total failure please check out the posts on Bulk Reef Central. http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/index.php/video/index/view/id/375/
If you still think that this is somehow cruel, crazy, or ridiculous please stop reading. However, if you are curious to see how this will go follow along as I start this new habitat for my little orange and black fish.
Hardware
I am finally posting this because I am complete with the plumbing and I promised Frostslayer that when I got the tank wet I would let him know. He sold me the tank I will be using right before Christmas. It is a 75 gallon drilled reef ready tank that will be plumbed into a 30 gallon sump. For the plumbing I have used mostly orange and black schedule 40 plumbing from Bulk Reef Supply (it does look pretty cool). For lighting I will be utilizing a hood that has 4 led moon lights, 4x 54 watt 48” actinics, and 2x 250 watt metal halide lights (I have a very large carpet anemone going in here). For the sump I have a Kessil 160WE Blue Tuna LED light that will be placed over the middle section of the sump that will house macro algae and assist in keeping the nitrates down. I am using a Reef Octopus 2000 protein skimmer that is rated for a 200 gallon tank. I will also be using a Finnex300W heater. For circulation I love my Maxspect Gyre 150 in my 150 gallon reef tank so much I got a Maxspect Gyre 130 for this tank. I am also using sock filtration and a media shelf in the sump to keep the water as clean as possible.
Components
The bottom of the tank is black egg crate. I have found that it keeps rock structure most stable. I have 80 lbs of crushed coral going in and on top of that 80 lbs of live rock that has been curing in a large tub since Christmas (thanks again Frostslayer!). The stand is a well-crafted home built stand with a canopy to match. The inside of the doors are painted with chalkboard paint to have a handy place to track water changes, bulb changes and other maintenance. Right now I am preparing saltwater while waiting for all of the plumbing to cure. I hope to start adding water tomorrow. Here are the pictures I have so far.

saltyjo
03/14/2015, 08:22 PM
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/full%20tank%20shot_zps3i76ddgt.jpg

Jrsdaddy
03/15/2015, 12:22 AM
Sounds interesting, tagging along. :thumbsup:

Tyler.L
03/15/2015, 05:25 AM
I'm doing the same but on a much smaller scale. I have a 50g that im using and am planning on 5-7 clowns and anemones only...but that could change if i use alot more clowns lol, we shall se. Anyways good luck!

Harem tanks will rule the world soon enough

saltyjo
03/15/2015, 06:35 AM
<a href="http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/overflow%20and%20durso%20drain_zpsnlzokyzn.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/overflow%20and%20durso%20drain_zpsnlzokyzn.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo overflow and durso drain_zpsnlzokyzn.jpg"/></a>

saltyjo
03/15/2015, 06:37 AM
<a href="http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/return%20line%20and%20regulator%20gate_zpsdtbsdx1k.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/return%20line%20and%20regulator%20gate_zpsdtbsdx1k.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo return line and regulator gate_zpsdtbsdx1k.jpg"/></a>

saltyjo
03/15/2015, 06:37 AM
<a href="http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/black%20egg%20crate_zpsriztlgws.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/black%20egg%20crate_zpsriztlgws.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo black egg crate_zpsriztlgws.jpg"/></a>

supernemofishie
03/15/2015, 06:41 AM
Following. I have always wanted to do a project like this. Clowns by far are my favorite. 😊

saltyjo
03/15/2015, 06:46 AM
<a href="http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/Sch%2040%20and%20filter_zpsezz2isrz.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/Sch%2040%20and%20filter_zpsezz2isrz.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Sch 40 and filter_zpsezz2isrz.jpg"/></a>

saltyjo
03/15/2015, 03:19 PM
<a href="http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/crushed%20coral%20bottom_zpscla8vazp.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/crushed%20coral%20bottom_zpscla8vazp.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo crushed coral bottom_zpscla8vazp.jpg"/></a>

I have added 80lbs of crushed coral to the bottom.

saltyjo
03/15/2015, 03:22 PM
<a href="http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/aquascaping_zpsmntne1ad.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/aquascaping_zpsmntne1ad.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo aquascaping_zpsmntne1ad.jpg"/></a>

The live rock aquascaped.

saltyjo
03/15/2015, 03:24 PM
<a href="http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/cloudy_zpscpxwmxla.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/cloudy_zpscpxwmxla.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo cloudy_zpscpxwmxla.jpg"/></a>

Adding water the tank is quite cloudy.

saltyjo
03/15/2015, 03:27 PM
After only 2 hours the tank is almost crystal clear. Everything is running well and temperature is coming up quite quickly.

<a href="http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/clearing_zpsm5yulqka.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/clearing_zpsm5yulqka.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo clearing_zpsm5yulqka.jpg"/></a>

supernemofishie
03/16/2015, 12:33 AM
Looking good!

SNAKEMANVET
03/16/2015, 05:06 AM
Looking good,like the aqua scapeing

jhowerton
03/16/2015, 05:27 AM
Tagging along, I'm working on a 46 bowfront clown/nem tank.

saltyjo
03/16/2015, 06:09 AM
This morning everthing looked great. Tank is crystal clear. Temperature is up to 80 degrees. I turned the temperature down just a hair. I have been keeping the baby tank at 78 degrees. Since my live rock is pretty well seasoned I dont think I am going to have a long wait till I can add them.

saltyjo
03/16/2015, 06:13 AM
Snakemanvet,
Thank you. My plan for the scape is to have plenty of room for the nem and lots of hiding places for the clowns.

saltyjo
03/16/2015, 06:19 AM
Tagging along, I'm working on a 46 bowfront clown/nem tank.

It has been a very long project for me. Last year I raised the clownfish fry and for the last 4 months I have been gathering equipment for this tank. I wanted to make sure this part is well documented. Good luck with your bowfront!

OrionN
03/16/2015, 09:17 AM
Make sure you have a screen top. They will chase each other enought to cause continue problem with jumping

saltyjo
03/16/2015, 12:25 PM
Make sure you have a screen top. They will chase each other enought to cause continue problem with jumping

Thanks Minh, good idea.

urbanrat84
03/17/2015, 04:36 AM
Tagging along :)

saltyjo
03/17/2015, 06:00 AM
Tank is looking amazing. Super clear and temp is down to 79 degrees. Everything is running smoothly. I will double check salinity tonight to see where its at.

saltyjo
03/19/2015, 11:44 AM
Day 4
Tank is very clear all components are working as planned. Temperature is perfect right at 79 degrees. Salinity is 1.23. The baby tank I have always ran at a bit lower salinity every since hatch night over a year ago and have had great sucess. I am contemplating upping this slighly and upping the salinity in their tank because of wanting to introduce the anemone I have to their tank. Does anyone run thier tank with anenome at a slighly lower salinity?

urbanrat84
03/19/2015, 02:57 PM
Does anyone run thier tank with anenome at a slighly lower salinity?

I run my tank at 1.23 on a permanent basis. I have 11 BTA's, 1 Mini Mini and a large Actinidus sp.anemone all living happily in this.

saltyjo
03/19/2015, 06:38 PM
I run my tank at 1.23 on a permanent basis. I have 11 BTA's, 1 Mini Mini and a large Actinidus sp.anemone all living happily in this.

Wow 11 BTAs!!! They are so beautiful. I have 2 in my 150 gallon reef tank. It was 1 when I put it in there but split into two. My perculas both love their own anemone separately. I would love to see them in a tank that had 11 in it! They would be like little bees going from one to another.
Anyway thanks for the reply! Perhaps I will keep the salinity lower. ;)

OrionN
03/19/2015, 06:52 PM
Do you mess Specific Gravity of 1.023 (salinity of about 30 to 31 part per thousand) or salinity of 23 part per thousand?
1.23 salinity is wrong and we (or I ) are not sure what you mean

There are two type of units that indicated how much salt in the water. Normal amout of salt in our reef tank at about 80 degree is Specific gravity of about 1.026 or Salinity of about 35 ppt

saltyjo
03/19/2015, 07:04 PM
Yes Minh,
1.023! I started the error and then continued it. I usually keep my reef tank at 1.025 and I meant I keep my baby tank around 1.023.
Thanks for the clarification. What do you keep your tank at?

OrionN
03/19/2015, 08:57 PM
I keep mine at 35 ppt

DasCamel
03/19/2015, 11:30 PM
Yes Minh,
1.023! I started the error and then continued it. I usually keep my reef tank at 1.025 and I meant I keep my baby tank around 1.023.
Thanks for the clarification. What do you keep your tank at?

I had a refractometer that had slowly drifted, my salinity was at 1.030 before I caught on. All the Nems did fine with it as it was brought up slowly. The fish seemed to tolerate it also for a few weeks. Anyway, I have a feeling they can adapt to a wider range as long as it doesn't fluctuate quickly.

Frostslasher
03/20/2015, 03:50 PM
Hi Jo!

Got your message - tank looks awesome! Looks like you cleaned the tank and rock up well. I'm excited to see the little guys in there. Please let me know if I can ever be of any further help.

saltyjo
03/23/2015, 06:50 AM
Not much new to report. Over the weekend I have had a little algae bloom and have seen signs of life. I have seen quite a few pods on the live rock. I am going to add a big chunk of caulpra to the sump sometime this week.

saltyjo
03/27/2015, 05:57 PM
Calupra added to the sump and the tank is doing well. Added some very small hermit crabs, and snails today.

Sir Edward
03/31/2015, 04:29 AM
Everything is looking so great, cannot wait to see them in their new home.

saltyjo
03/31/2015, 07:26 AM
Thanks Ed, I will for sure move them over this weekend! I am still needing to finish the overflow gate before they move over. If I get that done this week I will post pictures.

Sir Edward
03/31/2015, 05:00 PM
Pic's will be good, but when you move them over . . . I'll be over.

saltyjo
04/06/2015, 11:27 AM
Finally move the clowns on Easter!
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_202369202400_zpsuoet7kul.jpeg (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_202369202400_zpsuoet7kul.jpeg.html)

urbanrat84
04/06/2015, 04:12 PM
They are beautiful!!! Do you have a full tank shot?

Jrsdaddy
04/06/2015, 08:41 PM
Great pic and beautiful clowns!

Sir Edward
04/07/2015, 05:15 PM
They are so beautiful, I think I see a bunch of smiles on their cute little faces, Jo!!!!

addictedreefer
04/07/2015, 06:16 PM
All smiles until they start picking each other off one by one . . .

saltyjo
04/08/2015, 06:54 AM
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q536/SaltyJo/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_27513777713599_zpsjdqsvccv.jpeg (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/SaltyJo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_27513777713599_zpsjdqsvccv.jpeg.html)

urbanrat84
05/15/2015, 03:04 AM
How is it all going? The clowns all get along ok?

joshky
05/15/2015, 07:09 AM
Don't kill me for bringing it up, but 50 clowns in a 75g seems craaaaaazy. My brother had a harem of 13 clowns in his 82g for about a year before he had to get rid of them (not due to aggression), and that amount seemed stressful on anemones. Ideally you should have established the anemones before the clowns, I think you will have trouble keeping them.

Good luck.

ponokareefer
05/04/2016, 09:44 PM
Any updates?

OrionN
05/05/2016, 04:55 AM
Too bad that saltyjo did not post after this tread. The last time he/she was on RC was more than 1 year ago, just right after this last post. I would love to see how this tank turn out.

vickreyreef
01/09/2017, 11:39 AM
Update?

ILikeURWrasse
01/23/2017, 03:07 PM
I spoke with SaltyJoo and he informed me that after a while, the clowns individually began to get too aggressive and began to pick each one off. Ultimately, only a few clowns were left after the carnage.

This just goes to show you, that keeping a harem of clowns is possible, but only for a short period of time.

Dcropley
01/23/2017, 04:52 PM
Going to be interesting how mine turns out.