Seed my qt, but have ick in display tank

[Oakes1523]

Can I take some seeded media in my display tank and put it in my QT? I have ick in my display tank and don't want to transfer over ick with the media into my QT. will ick come with the media? What can I do to seed my tank but still kill, if there is any ick on the media? Can I dose copper in the empty QT tank and let the filter suck it all up to kill any ick in the tank?

[ca1ore]

I guess it depends on what you intend to do about the ich in your display. If you plan to just live with it, then I see no real downside to using seeded media from the tank (that's what I do). If, however, you plan to fallow the display to rid it of ich, then you don't want to put anything wet from your display into your QT.

[Oakes1523]

Yes I plan to fallow my display real soon, so are you saying I shouldn't use my media in my display to seed my QT?

How can I cycle my tank fast?:(

[cryptic_grower]

How can I cycle my tank fast?:(
:deadhorse:

[Oakes1523]

:uzi::uzi::uzi::uzi::uzi::uzi:@cryptic grower

[ca1ore]

Well, actually you could use the seeded media, but then treat any new fish as if they had ick (because they just might). Other option is to get some from a local reefer; though of course he/she could have ick too. Or you could just run an uncycled QT. It can be done, though it's a bit of a pain with all the water changes.

I think cryptic missed that you were talking about a QT tank :lol:

[Oakes1523]

Plan to do the tank transfer method then put them in a perminate QT tank until the display tank fallows. Could I just put cupramine in the tank and let the filter run??? Won't that kill ick?

[cryptic_grower]

:uzi::uzi::uzi::uzi::uzi::uzi:@cryptic grower

Ha uzis are highly inaccurate weapons beyond 10 meters.

Why even cycle it? You can put fish in a uncycled qt. You just need to be more vigilant in your husbandry.

[ca1ore]

Yes, though you'd want to ghost feed it a bit while doing TT.

[Oakes1523]

Cuz that's water changes every single day for 3 months, sorry I dont have that much time on my hands:debi::deadhorse1::wavehand:

[Oakes1523]

Your saying I can use the seeded media that has ick on it in my QT and let the cupramine run through it with out fish?

[ca1ore]

Your saying I can use the seeded media that has ick on it in my QT and let the cupramine run through it with out fish?

Well, I've never done it, frankly; but I don't see why not. As I said, just ghost feed the QT a bit to keep the bio filter active. Some folks say cupramine kills th bio-filter, but I have not found that to be the case. How long will you be able to cupramine the tank before adding fish? General wisdom is that it needs 30 days.

[Oakes1523]

How about if I put the 2 clownfish in the quarantine tank and then dose cupramine for the recommended time 2 weeks or however long, then all the ick would be dead in the tank. Am I correct???? So my filter media no longer has ick on it, then I can get a new tank, and use that filter media in the new tank to make sure there isn't too much ick inside the tank, only in the filter a little bit, but then I would add carbon to run all through all day for a long time to reduce the rest of the copper. Can I do this?

[Oakes1523]

Or am I stupid and the copper with kill on my beneficial bacteria on my filter media...think I just answered my question....

[ca1ore]

Why don't you get some CP. It's much gentler on fish, and on the bio filter, than even Cupramine. That's all I use anymore for ick.

[Martini5788]

I wouldn't use the filter media, that's just me. In my qt, I use prime, water changes, and purigen for a long term qt which helps with water quality IME. since you are going to fallow the dt, I wouldn't use anything from it in the qt.

[Oakes1523]

What is Cp ? Okay I have prime, I'll do water changes, what is purigen?

[Martini5788]

Made my seachem, you put it in a filter bag and run it in a reactor or filter.

[Martini5788]

Search ich shield. If I ever have ich issues, that's wheat I will use as well. It is also effective against a lot of other parasites and I think can be used in the display tank.

[Oakes1523]

Does it only shield it? Or does it rid of it compellty ? Really that's interested, have never heard of it thanks

[Oakes1523]

Read a little about it but could you give me an overview? Do you feed it or put it in the water?

[Sgt Jonny Cat]

Don't waste your money on products that claim to get rid of Ich. I have had to deal with ich twice, and if you do your research, you will see there is really only 3 ways to get rid of ich. Hypo salinity, tank transfer, and copper. There's a ton of posts on this forum that will help you.

As far as using the media from your DT in your QT, if you are going to treat for ich any way, why wouldn't you use the media. Just don't put that media back in the DT after the fallow period. I am no expert by any means....but if I'm wrong please chime in on this one...

[Oakes1523]

Because I'm treating them by the TTM not copper, if I do won't ick be transferred over after I just TTM my clean and healthy fish?

[Oakes1523]

And wouldn't copper kill that bacteria on the media?

[OrQidz]

could you get a small piece of live rock or rubble/sand etc from your LFS to kick start the filtration in your QT tank?

[Oakes1523]

I could, but there's a reason why I have ick right now. Or I think I do. Looks like lymph but who the heck can tell

[Martini5788]

People have actually had really good luck with ich shield. The powder form, not the food. It also kills a lot of other parasites as well. I just don't know where you would put the piece of
Live rock to keep it while your are doing ttm. And you
Wouldn't want to put it in after ttm

[ca1ore]

CP = Chloroquine Phosphate = active ingredient in Ich Shield. I prefer it to other ich treatments. It's also effective against velvet and, I believe, brook; whereas TT will only deal with ich.

[JoelA7]

Hi. All I can say is there's no upside to a media transfer which might introduce ick cysts into your QT. Get a hang on filter and run it with sponge and those little nuggets it comes with change water a few times and you'll slowly cycle. In a month you'll have bacteria and two more months of fallow. If I knew a year ago the aggro I'd have with this parasite I would have set a QT system w multiple tanks before filling my DT.

[Oakes1523]

Where do I put my fish while the DT fallows and my QT is trying to cycle?

[JoelA7]

In the QT. Folks use an ammonia alert badge to help monitor this period.