Two Fish LFS $3499.00 & $999.99 [Archive] - Reef Central Online Community

hobbzz

04/04/2015, 02:11 PM

They are just rare. Or hard to collect. Probably some bragging rights involved too. Clarions were recently captively bred. Still not as bad as peppermint angels for 15-20.000 though.

remiball

04/04/2015, 02:13 PM

Do people then look to have other Reefers come to their home to see the fish?

Or is it all just for yourself in a way?

Marc

anthonys51

04/04/2015, 02:14 PM

if you can afford to buy a 3500 fish, i don't think you really care about the price tag. plus dont woman buy 5000 dresses and up and only wear them once

myaerica

04/04/2015, 02:20 PM

Is the 3rd pic australian flat head perch? I've seen A pair on them before super cool fish.

Dmorty217

04/04/2015, 02:40 PM

3500$ is 1000$ overpriced for the clarion but to answer your question a lot of people. It's not to have others come over and see your fish. It's the passion you have for the fish... Some like expensive cars, watches, bottles of wine ect... We all have vices

snorvich

04/04/2015, 05:28 PM

gone fishin

04/04/2015, 05:37 PM

DD often has pretty pricey fish and folks buy them. No different than purebred dogs, cats or other pets.

Dmorty217

04/04/2015, 05:53 PM

I agree. Some vices are more expensive than others. $3500 is only moderately priced for good koi.

I was going to reference koi going for 100's of thousands and I think I read a few reports of them going for seven figures...

remiball

04/04/2015, 06:17 PM

Koi is a competition with large cash prices. They travel and show those fish.

Does that happen with Marine Fish as well?

gone fishin

04/04/2015, 06:21 PM

a Westminster fish show would be kinda cool.

remiball

04/04/2015, 06:29 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKJ8EKxlaJQ

kmbyrnes

04/04/2015, 06:32 PM

And here I am still trying to get the wife to go along with $200 for a gold flake angel ......

Dmorty217

04/04/2015, 06:41 PM

And here I am still trying to get the wife to go along with $200 for a gold flake angel ......

I'm glad I don't have to have that talk with my wife... Getting a Bandit and crosshatch male next week and my wife quickly got over that.

remiball

04/04/2015, 07:55 PM

I'm glad I don't have to have that talk with my wife... Getting a Bandit and crosshatch male next week and my wife quickly got over that.

Do you put these in a Reef Tank or FOWLR tank.

Both are beautiful fish.

Code4

04/04/2015, 08:42 PM

And here I am still trying to get the wife to go along with $200 for a gold flake angel ......

Lucky me I am the holder of the purse strings. I just do not tell him what they cost. I have a young golden angelfish. Good luck on getting tbe one you want.

That peppermint is gorgeous! :dance:

Shelley

BigCountry74

04/04/2015, 08:57 PM

if you can afford to buy a 3500 fish, i don't think you really care about the price tag. plus dont woman buy 5000 dresses and up and only wear them once

x2 :wave:

BigCountry74

04/04/2015, 08:59 PM

snorvich

04/04/2015, 09:02 PM

I was going to reference koi going for 100's of thousands and I think I read a few reports of them going for seven figures...

There are some issues with Koi that are not true for marine fish. A male and female are selected based on coloration and genetic makeup. When they are bred, the number from a mating is considerable but those are then culled. After a few years, when the coloration becomes more obvious, they are culled again. I have a fair number of them in the four figure area but those are inexpensive compared to the champion koi that have been shown and won championships. Five figures is common. My koi have bred indiscriminately (that is, it is not clear who was father and who was mother) but the number of good ones resulting is very small. I only have two resulting from a spawn that may be desirable, but I won't know of a couple of years yet.

remiball

04/04/2015, 09:37 PM

When a Koi wins a competition is there a cash prize? Or is it all bragging rights?

I always thought it was a money game but not sure now.

Code4

04/04/2015, 10:40 PM

oh and your wife knows what you spend on these tanks. trust me. everything you spend she spends the same at her stores once she finds out haha

my wife is getting smarter also. the whole "oh I got that coral onsale for 30 bucks" does not work no more....
:D

I am the odd gal out here apparently. I buy plants, expensive ones, but no dresses. I have not bought one in about 15 years or so. And I do own up to the purchase price if caught red handed so to speak. My fish tend to live a good long time. So I can justify it. :lolspin: Justification is the key. :lolspin: I justified my newest purchase, 140 gallon, by batting my eyes and saying I must have it for the copperband I have needed for years! :lolspin: Guess his putting his 1965 mustang in a custom finishing shop also helps. :D.

Koi are gorgeous. That culling sounds really heartless if I am understanding correctly. I would have a pond if I didn't have so many garden beds.

Shelley

snorvich

04/05/2015, 05:22 AM

Koi are gorgeous. That culling sounds really heartless if I am understanding correctly. I would have a pond if I didn't have so many garden beds.

Shelley

Well, Koi ponds have "garden beds" that would rival land gardens. The culling is heartless, but it is part of the "industry". I cull babies (at about two years) by finding them homes with folks that are not into the fancy coloration. Koi outlive people, by the way.

Dmorty217

04/05/2015, 09:28 AM

Do you put these in a Reef Tank or FOWLR tank.

Both are beautiful fish.

They are going in a 125g QT by themselves for the next 6 months

NYCBOB

04/05/2015, 09:31 AM

where is this fish store?

Dmorty217

04/05/2015, 09:32 AM

There are some issues with Koi that are not true for marine fish. A male and female are selected based on coloration and genetic makeup. When they are bred, the number from a mating is considerable but those are then culled. After a few years, when the coloration becomes more obvious, they are culled again. I have a fair number of them in the four figure area but those are inexpensive compared to the champion koi that have been shown and won championships. Five figures is common. My koi have bred indiscriminately (that is, it is not clear who was father and who was mother) but the number of good ones resulting is very small. I only have two resulting from a spawn that may be desirable, but I won't know of a couple of years yet.

I learn something everyday on here. Sounds like I should stay away froma koi pond at the new house... Don't need another expensive hobby... Already have enough vices

Dmorty217

04/05/2015, 09:40 AM

where is this fish store?

Near a big city, this I know

remiball

04/05/2015, 10:25 AM

The store is in Clifton NJ. It is a very good LFS one of the few left around these parts.

tkeracer619

04/05/2015, 11:18 AM

If I had the cash I'd snag a clarion in a heartbeat. Everyone has a point where they start getting squeamish at the price of a single fish. Mine is much lower than $3500...

remiball

04/05/2015, 11:30 AM

think my max would be in the $200-300.00 range. Any more than that I would be freaking if it died.

Dmorty217

04/05/2015, 11:52 AM

If I had the cash I'd snag a clarion in a heartbeat. Everyone has a point where they start getting squeamish at the price of a single fish. Mine is much lower than $3500...

My max is 2000$ maybe 2500$ on a fish... I would spend 2500$ on a clarion from Wen

Code4

04/05/2015, 12:04 PM

Well, Koi ponds have "garden beds" that would rival land gardens. The culling is heartless, but it is part of the "industry". I cull babies (at about two years) by finding them homes with folks that are not into the fancy coloration. Koi outlive people, by the way.

I have been to gorgeous ponds. I love your culling method by the way. My land beds are show stoppers. I have met most of my neighbors because of them and our yard decorations. My 4 shih tzus were mistaken for statues once. :) The garden in Spokane WA has huge Koi in them. I have seen the same ones for years. So I can believe that they can outlive us humans. Thanks for culling your babies in such a way. :)

Shelley

remiball

04/05/2015, 07:15 PM

My max is 2000$ maybe 2500$ on a fish... I would spend 2500$ on a clarion from Wen

I am sure the store that has that fish listed at 3500 would take 2500.00. If not they are crazy.

What is WEN?

OrQidz

04/05/2015, 11:56 PM

I think there is an element of owning something rare and exquisite, that is hard to come by. Like collecting art in a way.

cleverbs

04/06/2015, 08:00 AM

Many people buy very expensive fish. My LFS gets lots of very pricy fish in and they never have them for more then a few days. In fact they got in a show size gold back trigger that was over a foot long and they sold it the same day they got it in. I think the price tag was $3,000. He gets in lots of rare fish and has no problem selling them. He has fish in his store that are over a 1,000 pretty much any time you go in there.

remiball

04/06/2015, 08:24 AM

Maybe if I had more confidence in keeping them alive.

It would really scare me to have such an expensive fish.

Dmorty217

04/06/2015, 11:06 AM

I am sure the store that has that fish listed at 3500 would take 2500.00. If not they are crazy.

What is WEN?

Wen Ping is the guy who you can thank for anything captive bred out of Bali Aquarich including the CB Clarions

remiball

04/06/2015, 11:20 AM

Googled them and it sent me to a Bali Bra Website. The correct site looks pretty amazing.

So since they are in Bali, the LFS has to certify that it came from that location.

Marc

Dmorty217

04/06/2015, 01:44 PM

Googled them and it sent me to a Bali Bra Website. The correct site looks pretty amazing.

So since they are in Bali, the LFS has to certify that it came from that location.

Marc

Bali won't sell to non stores so there is nothing to worry about there. Most fish he captive breeds there aren't being bred anywhere else so you can be assured it came from them