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Fury165
04/07/2015, 09:09 AM
Fury165’s ultra low profile grow out tank - Haven

This started last October with an unplanned purchase of a frag tank and a promise to myself it was just going to be a simple upgrade. Plan was to replace the existing tank and reuse all the other gear I already had running on my existing grow out tank lol. Well that plan lasted all of one week and with the lots of help of some local reefers in Toronto, I turned this into a full blown rabbit hole that took the better part of five months to complete. Without the help of these fine gentlemen I would not have been able to do this with such polish… take a bow guys!

I had planned to document each step of the way, however I was given marching orders to finish this rabbit hole no later than Easter Monday. I only realized that I hadn’t taken any serious pics until I had already added water and was in the process of transferring the frags to the new tank. I managed to take some quick and dirty shots this morning. There is still a lot to be done, fit and finish and polishing up but that will happen as the week progresses.

So without much further ado, I present to you Haven – I hope you like it!


Tank

Canada Corals made this tank specifically for frag shows, but they decided to redo in white instead.

1/2” clear and black acrylic 24”L x 18”W x 6”H

Stand
Custom made Bosch Rexroth 45 Aluminum profile
24 1/16”L x 18 1/16”W x 37”H

Sump

Custom made acrylic sump in white and clear

Equipment

Return pump Tunze Silence 1072.040
Skimmer Bubble Magus NAC 3.5
ATO Tunze Osmolator 3155
Lighting AquaIllumination Vega
Water Movement EcoTech MP10WES

Control
Reefkeeper Lite
AquaIllumination Director
Apex Jr. with WXM module (for MP10WES)
Plumbing
All Schedule 40 PVC with silicone tubing for last foot to return pump.



FTS
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FTS open

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Sump auxiliary light
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External overflow

Bean Animal on a 10 gallon.. overkill much? lol

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Fury165
04/07/2015, 09:10 AM
Plumbing

3/4" pipe and fittings inside the external box transitioned to 1' outside.

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Split ring pipe hangers to support the plumbing.

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Water change valve and tubing.

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Inna da sump

Red and white.. to match future Vertex upgrades

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Fury165
04/07/2015, 09:11 AM
Light rail

Bosch Rexroth EcoShape profile and fittings
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Held on by one bolt and that little connection EEK!
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Stand detail
Bosch Rexroth 4545 Aluminum profile

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Fury165
04/07/2015, 09:12 AM
Electrical panel

Control and monitoring center

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Cable management duct custom painted in red
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Spaghetti anyone? can't wait to finish the cabling and pop the covers on.

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joshky
04/07/2015, 10:15 AM
That's a great frag tank, talk about sparing no small details.

acrohead500ppm
04/07/2015, 10:20 AM
Really nice looking setup, talk about attention to detail!
Never thought about using server wire racks!!! Looks like a clean way of cord management without making it a pain in the rear to remove/ service equipment.

Looks like I am going to circuit city today!

Fury165
04/07/2015, 02:32 PM
That's a great frag tank, talk about sparing no small details.

Thanks! I've been accused of OCD by friends and family, but it's the little details that push things to the top.

Really nice looking setup, talk about attention to detail!
Never thought about using server wire racks!!! Looks like a clean way of cord management without making it a pain in the rear to remove/ service equipment.

Looks like I am going to circuit city today!

I've been using it for all my tanks, couldn't imagine doing a build without some.

delmo
04/07/2015, 10:06 PM
You had me up until Digital Aquatics showed up! Lol. (Sorry, I dispise that company) Very nice and neat set up. Overkillzilla.

Fury165
04/07/2015, 11:14 PM
You had me up until Digital Aquatics showed up! Lol. (Sorry, I dispise that company) Very nice and neat set up. Overkillzilla.

Haha thanks. The Reefkeeper is there since I have a few but I will be transitioning to full Apex in the near future.

intyme
04/08/2015, 01:10 PM
Woah

fizzlefish
04/08/2015, 01:14 PM
God damn....

garrettm
04/08/2015, 01:48 PM
Very nice! Love the clean look and attention to detail!

Jade5051
04/08/2015, 10:38 PM
It's like a piece of fine art...

Fury165
04/09/2015, 11:12 AM
Woah

God damn....

Very nice! Love the clean look and attention to detail!

It's like a piece of fine art...

Thanks guys, glad you like it :lol2:

Pife
04/09/2015, 01:17 PM
Nice and clean build. Great execution.

Fury165
04/10/2015, 04:49 PM
Nice and clean build. Great execution.

Thanks Pife, I made it even cleaner today by finishing up the cabling and popping the cable management covers on :D

gtareef
04/10/2015, 05:36 PM
That's your frag tank? Man, I can't imagine what your DT would looked like lol.

Fury165
04/11/2015, 05:19 AM
That's your frag tank? Man, I can't imagine what your DT would looked like lol.


Lol yeah, that's my latest OCD rabbit hole, but the DT is nothing like yours!

gtareef
04/11/2015, 06:27 PM
Seriously. I want to see your display tank now :D

Fury165
04/20/2015, 11:33 PM
Progress so far.

the transfer of the frags from the old tank to the new is done for the most part. Before I can begin mothballing the old tank once and for all I just need to catch the fish and shrimp - they will all be going to a good home. Originally i planned to go with no livestock in this tank, but I've decided to keep the big Emerald crab that was banished from the DT to the old frag tank's sump a few months ago. Eugene (named after Eugene on Walking Dead) has grown on me - as big and bumbling as he is, he is harmless for the most part and the world needs a Eugene in it. :D

now on to the little things....

Water changes
I've done two since putting the tank up and I am glad I built the manifold and attached a ball valve for water changes. In all it takes me 3 minutes to drain, remove and replace water in the tank. :D previously i could do it in 20 minutes if I was lucky. The return chamber in my sump is small, insufficient by itself to do a proper water change with the system running but I can still do it with a few easy steps.

Return chamber
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WC setup
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Loc-Line NPT ball valve
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here is how it works.

Lower the Loc-Line nozzle on the return as low as it will go so I can drain as much water as possible into the sump.
Put the Reefkeeper in standby mode and it shuts off the return pump, heater, skimmer and ATO.
The overflow drains and empties the lines while the return back siphons into the sump until air enters the return plumbing.
Now there is ~4" of water above the normal operating level in the sump. Now there is enough water to do a proper WC
I close the ball valve on the Loc Line fitting so that all the water will be forced to exit through the manifold and out the WC setup.

Take the Reefkeeper out of standby and begin draining 2 gallons of old water into a bucket.
I'll then add back 2 gallons of new salt water into the sump, reposition the nozzle and open the valve on the Loc-Line fitting.


Works like a charm! I would highly recommend it to anyone looking to start a new build.

Reefkeeper programming for the ATO

I need to delay the turning on of the ATO so that it does not turn on when the Bean Animal setup is trying to restart and auto tune. the first time I did a water change the Tunze ATO kept on adding RODI water because the water level in the return compartment goes go up and down until the BA overflow system auto tunes. Needless to say the salinity dropped a few points that day :o

Lighting

I suspected that the AI Vegas would be too strong for this tank with less than 5" of operating water level. a quick check with a PAR meter confirmed it and the zoas certainly responded negatively the first 2 days before i put the light into acclimatization mode.

I had planned for this by factoring the purchase of a new light better suited for this layout... sure I could lower the intensity of the Vegas, but i'd be under utilizing the light. So I purchased the new AI Prime LED for Haven and will move the Vega to the DT.

AI Prime
speak about little things.. this light is 4.88"Lx4.88Wx1.34"H and weighing 0.95 lbs, it is tiny! unfortunately the supplier was out of the hanging mount kit for it so I will have to provide a performance review later on :(

My initial impressions of it:


very sleek and well built
Easy setup
built in WiFi rocks
Freakin' bright!
Integration with AI Director not possible - even though the initial reports says it was. It uses MyAI which is a portal for both the director AND the Prime LEDs. I was expecting "single pane of glass" that I've come to love when controlling my Vegas across two tanks.
Single lighting profile. WTH??? I got lots in my AI director lol.
Paired down effects, but I guess that was to be expected.


In all, I expect the lights will work just fine for my needs - just a little put off by the usual marketing department spin on actual facts.

Gratuitous pre unboxing shot. :D

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Pife
04/25/2015, 09:47 PM
Thanks Pife, I made it even cleaner today by finishing up the cabling and popping the cable management covers on :D

I need some pictures for proof....and because your tank is great.

inthedeep2
04/30/2015, 07:52 PM
ohh no no no that set-up is all wrong wont be anything but hassles.. send it to me..

yeah right just joking. awesome set-up. cant wait to see it full of frags

moondoggy4
04/30/2015, 08:11 PM
The 165 through me I had look at the measurements 3 times and then the skimmer to see that it is a small frag tank, very nice love the attention to detail.

Fury165
05/28/2015, 09:22 AM
ohh no no no that set-up is all wrong wont be anything but hassles.. send it to me..

yeah right just joking. awesome set-up. cant wait to see it full of frags

Lol. Completely hassle free as I planned it.

The 165 through me I had look at the measurements 3 times and then the skimmer to see that it is a small frag tank, very nice love the attention to detail.

165 I wish, glad you like it :beer:

Fury165
05/28/2015, 09:22 AM
Thee tank has been running for a while now and I've been tweaking it as needed along the way. I cleaned the tank yesterday and took some pics of the setup, but didn't bother with frag pics since everybody was closed up after a peroxide dip. I'll post some pics of the frags soon.

The AI Prime has been working awesome on the tank and I'm seeing impressive growth since i put it into service. The new hanging bracket works as it should. I have no real complaints except the Prime is so small that it is dwarfed even over this 10 gallon tank. The Bosch hanging bracket is so big now for such a little light but i have more plans for my light setup.. more to come on this later.:cool:

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One of the biggest issues I had with this build was the egg crate frag plug holders. I have always hated having to clean all the nooks and crannies of the egg crate, so I commissioned a local reefer to make me a set of frag plug holders out of a sheet of black 3/8" acrylic. He did a fantastic job and I think they look a million times better than egg crate. Clean up should be easy with a Mr. Clean magic eraser :D Only thing i would change would be to make the holes a little closer to maximize the space... it's already full!

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I also had him make me the cover for the internal overflow to prevent algae growth in there. it needs a little adjustment for the support but otherwise it is perfect.

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The other addition to the tank is 1/2 of a Marine Pure bio block to do the duty of live rock... here it is in the sump.

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a close up of the pores
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eddiereefs
05/28/2015, 09:46 AM
Looks awesome, that bio block looks soooo porus. Hows that skimmer, i was thinking of buying one justfor the body and throw a sicce pump on it

Fury165
05/29/2015, 09:13 AM
Looks awesome, that bio block looks soooo porus. Hows that skimmer, i was thinking of buying one justfor the body and throw a sicce pump on it

You know, it is surprisingly good for the price. Never had an issue with it or the pump :thumbsup:

Fury165
04/14/2016, 08:51 AM
April 14, 2016 Update - the lights

I finally got around to doing the light experiment I hinted at last year, namely using T5's to supplement the Prime LED light. The light rail was revamped to house the two T5 24" retrofits, reflectors and the Prime in a single unit. I decided on ATI Blue+ and Coral+ for bulbs. For the next little while I plan on running the lights for a couple hours a day to coincide with the peak period of the Prime's scheduling. Eventually they will run for 5 hrs a day in tandem with the prime.

The Prime developed a problem a few weeks ago with the fan and started to go into Thermal Shutdown. But not to worry, I sent AI SUPPORT an email and within an hour they had authorized the Canadian Distributor to replace the light under warranty. Only issue was the Prime's were back ordered for a couple of weeks, otherwise top notch after care from AI as always.

Anyway here are a few pics.

Conceptual Drawing
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Finished mount
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Prime Detail
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Quick mounted shot
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d2mini
04/14/2016, 09:24 AM
Very cool, love all the little details like how you secured the plumbing and the led lights around the perimeter of the equipment cabinet door.
Nice job!

Fury165
04/14/2016, 04:01 PM
Very cool, love all the little details like how you secured the plumbing and the led lights around the perimeter of the equipment cabinet door.
Nice job!


Thanks Dennis, means a lot coming from the master of detail himself