View Full Version : What type of anemone is this?
Bulldog87333
04/26/2015, 09:07 PM
I've tried google, lfs, and petco. Every place I've asked tells me something different. Any help would be appreciated. Thx.
maxxII
04/26/2015, 09:18 PM
Looks like a BTA ....Bubble Tipped Anemone (e. Quadricolor).
asudavew
04/26/2015, 09:20 PM
Looks like a BTA ....Bubble Tipped Anemone (e. Quadricolor).
I agree. It has lost the bubble tips.
Bulldog87333
04/26/2015, 10:00 PM
Thanks for the help. My tanks pretty new and at the time I didn't know it was bad to get anemones this early on. I'm hoping he does ok. Any suggestions are welcome.
Nina51
04/27/2015, 06:56 AM
unless your tank is at least 6-9 months old, i'd think about returning the nem to wherever you got it. do lots of reading and don't just go on what your lfs tells you. caring for a nem is lots more than just plopping it in your tank. you need to cover all of your power heads to avoid it getting shredded. a dying nem will foul your tank in the blink of an eye.
not to sound harsh but do some research before you add things to your tank that you aren't sure how to care for.
Azedenkae
04/27/2015, 07:05 AM
Thanks for the help. My tanks pretty new and at the time I didn't know it was bad to get anemones this early on. I'm hoping he does ok. Any suggestions are welcome.
Well it depends on your tank parameters more so any specific time frame. :) Don't worry, if your tank is all setted up properly and everything is sweet then it'd be fine. But yeah otherwise best return it, they aren't the easiest to keep.
JuggZaPoppiN
04/27/2015, 07:49 AM
unless your tank is at least 6-9 months old, i'd think about returning the nem to wherever you got it. do lots of reading and don't just go on what your lfs tells you. caring for a nem is lots more than just plopping it in your tank. you need to cover all of your power heads to avoid it getting shredded. a dying nem will foul your tank in the blink of an eye.
not to sound harsh but do some research before you add things to your tank that you aren't sure how to care for.
I agree to an extent.
If all your water parameters are in check and you do your diligence to make sure the nem has everything it needs you should be fine.
My tank is maybe 3 months old and is doing great. Just got a Long tentacle anemone the other day from Petco and he seems to be extremely happy. Even fed him some raw shrimp!
Now I just need my snowflake clowns to host it. :fish1:
Nina51
04/27/2015, 09:47 AM
the nem hosts the clowns, not the other way around.
JuggZaPoppiN
04/27/2015, 09:57 AM
the nem hosts the clowns, not the other way around.
Correct. Thanks for making me feel uneducated. LOL :bounce1:
jrp1588
04/27/2015, 10:12 AM
If you know what you're doing, and parameters are fine, I wouldn't feel uncomfortable dropping a 'nem in after a couple months (I've done it several times.) BTA's have always been bulletproof for me. I drop them in, they attach immediately, and don't move much. Maybe I just have a psychic touch for knowing what spot they'll like, but I've never had one move more than a couple inches in years.
I don't feed them, or do anything special for them. I just let their clownfish and light take care of everything it needs.
Nina51
04/27/2015, 12:13 PM
Correct. Thanks for making me feel uneducated. LOL :bounce1:
that wasn't my intention. i just see this so often and i guess it drives me crazy. or crazier than i already am! :crazy1:
Bulldog87333
04/27/2015, 08:59 PM
Thanks for all the advice. After I learned more about anemones I decided to take it back, but the place doesn't take returns. The only place that I know of that will take him looks horrible. The tank has been running 6 weeks. I have the water tested weekly and it has been perfect every time. The nem has been doing great since I got him 4 weeks ago. I haven't fed him anything directly, but he catches mysis shrimp and pellets when I feed the fish. I feel like I cursed myself making this post. He looked great till 2 days ago. He got all shriveled and I saw some poop come out. I read that that was normal, so I didn't worry about it. When I came home today after work, he looks bad. I'll add some pics. I did a 10% weekly water change yesterday. The salinity is 1.024 and the water tested fine. Do u think he's splitting?
Azedenkae
04/27/2015, 09:09 PM
Thanks for all the advice. After I learned more about anemones I decided to take it back, but the place doesn't take returns. The only place that I know of that will take him looks horrible. The tank has been running 6 weeks. I have the water tested weekly and it has been perfect every time. The nem has been doing great since I got him 4 weeks ago. I haven't fed him anything directly, but he catches mysis shrimp and pellets when I feed the fish. I feel like I cursed myself making this post. He looked great till 2 days ago. He got all shriveled and I saw some poop come out. I read that that was normal, so I didn't worry about it. When I came home today after work, he looks bad. I'll add some pics. I did a 10% weekly water change yesterday. The salinity is 1.024 and the water tested fine. Do u think he's splitting?
Not entirely sure, but seems so. Good luck! Just let him be, don't do anything else for now.
Bulldog87333
04/27/2015, 09:22 PM
Ok ill keep an eye on it.
Dkuhlmann
04/28/2015, 02:48 AM
Looks like you are about to have two of them :D Good Luck!
chefbill
04/28/2015, 07:00 AM
The tank has been running 6 weeks. I have the water tested weekly and it has been perfect every time.
Before adding anything else, or doing anything else, I'd invest in your own test kit. I trust myself more than some pimply faced minimum wage earner at the LFS. Redsea, Salifert are better than API>
JUst my $.02
jrp1588
04/28/2015, 07:32 AM
I trust myself more than some pimply faced minimum wage earner at the LFS.
Wow, harsh. It's more the general lack of training and knowledge that makes me distrust them, not their complexion or lack of a high paying job.
That being said, a test kit is always a good idea (though I don't use mine much).
chefbill
04/28/2015, 07:38 AM
OK, yes that was uncalled for. The point I was trying to make was this: They are generally (at least in my area) high school kids that are happy to just have a job, employed by owners happy to not have to do it all themselves. YOU have a vested interest in have the right results from tests done correctly. THEY (the LFS) can tell you whatever number they want to get you to make another purchase. After all, by the doing the tests, they have already spent time and money on you, they want to get some of that back.
Bulldog87333
04/28/2015, 10:51 PM
Before adding anything else, or doing anything else, I'd invest in your own test kit. I trust myself more than some pimply faced minimum wage earner at the LFS. Redsea, Salifert are better than API>
JUst my $.02
Lol. Actually the place I have the water tested has a bunch of hot girls that work there. It is prolly the reason I haven't bought a test kit yet. I haven't decided if I should buy just an API master reef kit for now or if I should buy the Red Sea test kits individually. I don't have any coral yet, but I plan on buying some next month. If I do go with Red Sea, what test should I buy first? Do I need to get them all or can I get by with a few? I want this BTA to thrive, so I could cough up the money to get what I need for him. Let me know what u guys think. Thx again!
julie180
04/29/2015, 05:48 AM
Nitrates, phosphate, kh are the necessary basic test. Calcium and magnesium are a close second.
You can still have the hot girls test your water :) But you should also be testing yourself and logging the results so you can track changes and act accordingly.
One of the problems is LFS usually tell you "water is fine" which does not really give you any information. You need to know solid numbers.
Dkuhlmann
04/29/2015, 05:52 AM
Julie is correct, "fine" and "good" are NOT water parameters
Bulldog87333
04/29/2015, 10:37 AM
Thx again for the advice. I'll pick them up today and post results later.
Love all the advice here. I thought the LFS worker description was hilarious. No offense to that taken here. I tend to agree. When I've ever purchased livestock from the LFS I'll say what I want and I get a puzzled look and have to go "here, look" point and say "That one." It's true, unless it's the owner of a reef specific store, the employees generally are just happy to afford gas and beer money. That's about it. Keep having the hotties test your water for you. Definitely nothing wrong with that, Just don't pay attention to the numbers you get. Buy your own tests in the mean time and do it right at home.
I used to say age didnt matter only measurables, but something immeasurable seems to be at play when it comes to sensitive livestock. I have observed more acropora struggles in new tank builds, despite having temperature automation, stable ca and alk through calcium reactors or dosing, and stable salinity from an ATO, along with appropriate PO4 and NO3 measurements. With identical parameters, but age being the only difference, things seem to get better. I don't know why. I'm sure it has to do with something we cant/don't test for
Bulldog87333
04/30/2015, 01:28 AM
So my water parameters were not so perfect. Nobody local had any other test kits, so I got the API reef kit for everything other than the ammonia and ph. I added a bag of chemi-pure elite and am adding a capful of stability a day. I plan on doing another 30%-50% water change. Is this a good plan or should I be doing anything else? Thx again for the help.
Ammonia. 0 ppm
Nitrite. 0.4 ppm
Nitrate. 40 ppm
Phosphate. 0.20 ppm
Calcium. 520 ppm
Alkalinity. 13 dKH
Salinity. 1.024
PH. 8.3
Water Temperature 78-80
Dkuhlmann
04/30/2015, 03:13 AM
Nope, not "fine" at all. Your tank appears to still be in it's cycle having nitrites. When they stop that 40 nitrate will look like nothing, nitrates will usually explode. You shouldn't have any livestock in your tank yet... much less an anemone.
Patience grasshopper, patience :thumbsup:
Bulldog87333
05/06/2015, 09:11 PM
My API test kit was messed up. I used salifert and this is what I got.
Ammonia. 0 ppm
Nitrite. 0.0 ppm
Nitrate. 10-15 ppm
Phosphate. 0.10 ppm
Calcium. 500 ppm
Alkalinity. 11 dKH
Salinity. 1.025
PH. 8.1
Water Temperature 78-80
Bulldog87333
05/06/2015, 09:11 PM
My API test kit was messed up. I used salifert and this is what I got.
Ammonia. 0 ppm
Nitrite. 0.0 ppm
Nitrate. 10-15 ppm
Phosphate. 0.10 ppm
Calcium. 500 ppm
Alkalinity. 11 dKH
Salinity. 1.025
PH. 8.1
Water Temperature 78-80
jminick2
05/07/2015, 05:36 AM
Nope, not "fine" at all. Your tank appears to still be in it's cycle having nitrites. When they stop that 40 nitrate will look like nothing, nitrates will usually explode. You shouldn't have any livestock in your tank yet... much less an anemone.
Patience grasshopper, patience [emoji106]
This is incorrect. When your cycle is over you won't have that many nitrates it'll probably less than 10. The fact that you have nitrites will cause your nitrate test to read much higher than it actually is. So there is no point what so ever to test for nitrates when nitrites are in your tank.
Dkuhlmann
05/07/2015, 04:13 PM
This is incorrect. When your cycle is over you won't have that many nitrates it'll probably less than 10. The fact that you have nitrites will cause your nitrate test to read much higher than it actually is. So there is no point what so ever to test for nitrates when nitrites are in your tank.
LOL you just contradicted yourself there at the end :crazy1:
jminick2
05/07/2015, 04:35 PM
LOL you just contradicted yourself there at the end :crazy1:
Uhhhhh..... no
Dkuhlmann
05/07/2015, 05:33 PM
But you did!! I said it was going through a cycle... oh nevermind. You go with your thoughts ;)
Bulldog87333
05/07/2015, 06:09 PM
I understand what you both meant. I'm almost positive the tank has cycled. I've tested it several times now and had it tested my many people. There's no nitrite or ammonia at all and hasn't been for 3 weeks. The test results that I posted first we're not accurate, because of the faulty api kit I used. The tank has been up and running now for almost two months with livestock and they all look great. I was worried about the nem and figured out the my peppermint shimp liked to snack on him. Everyone says I'm crazy, but I witnessed him doing it on several occasions. I got rid of the shimp and replaced him with a skunk cleaner shimp and everyone seems really great and healthy. Thank u all for the help and the advice. Happy reefing :)
jminick2
05/07/2015, 06:10 PM
But you did!! I said it was going through a cycle... oh nevermind. You go with your thoughts ;)
I think it went over your head.......let me try again.
When nitrItes are present a nitrAte test kit will read much higher than they actually are.
The OP said he had nitrite so there is no point in testing for nitrates because the test results will be wrong.
I wasn't questioning if he was cycling or not. Just the fact that when his cycle is actually done the nitrate will be much less when there are no nitrites present.
Let me give you a example to help you..
I recently cycled a tank and was unaware of the stated FACT I just informed you of. I had like 3ppm nitrites, I went ahead and tested for nitrate as well and it read 160ppm two days later I tested again nitrites 0 and nitrates were 10.
Hope this helps you understand better.
Dkuhlmann
05/08/2015, 01:16 AM
I think it went over your head.......let me try again.
When nitrItes are present a nitrAte test kit will read much higher than they actually are.
The OP said he had nitrite so there is no point in testing for nitrates because the test results will be wrong.
I wasn't questioning if he was cycling or not. Just the fact that when his cycle is actually done the nitrate will be much less when there are no nitrites present.
Let me give you a example to help you..
I recently cycled a tank and was unaware of the stated FACT I just informed you of. I had like 3ppm nitrites, I went ahead and tested for nitrate as well and it read 160ppm two days later I tested again nitrites 0 and nitrates were 10.
Hope this helps you understand better.
And I'll say it one more time so you understand it. IF NITRITES are present you are in a mini cycle. Yes if Nitrites are detectable your Nitrates will not read properly. I still think my comment totally skipped across the top :facepalm: Sometimes it's really hard to get across something that is trying to be said in type :rolleye1:
crsturmer
05/08/2015, 01:31 AM
I agree that keeping a BTA in a fairly new tank isn't a problem. I put one in mine after 6 months of very stable parameters and it's thriving. A ritteri on the other hand is much more difficult in a new tank and I wouldn't recommend that at all. Keeping a ritteri is much more challenging than a BTA in general.
jminick2
05/08/2015, 10:23 AM
And I'll say it one more time so you understand it. IF NITRITES are present you are in a mini cycle. Yes if Nitrites are detectable your Nitrates will not read properly. I still think my comment totally skipped across the top :facepalm: Sometimes it's really hard to get across something that is trying to be said in type :rolleye1:
Lol SMH
1.)I have only agreed with you from the beginning that if nitrites are pesent he is going through a cycle.
2.) Don't act like now all the sudden you know if nitrites are present your nitrates will read much higher than they actually are. Your post about them going way up from 40ppm when the cycle is complete is just wrong and says otherwise.
I can see this is going nowhere so that'll be all from me.
Dkuhlmann
05/08/2015, 02:32 PM
Lol SMH
1.)I have only agreed with you from the beginning that if nitrites are pesent he is going through a cycle.
2.) Don't act like now all the sudden you know if nitrites are present your nitrates will read much higher than they actually are. Your post about them going way up from 40ppm when the cycle is complete is just wrong and says otherwise.
I can see this is going nowhere so that'll be all from me.
REALLY???? I'm done with you. You're not worth my breath or my time.
jminick2
05/08/2015, 03:25 PM
REALLY???? I'm done with you. You're not worth my breath or my time.
I've never seen someone so butt hurt about being wrong. I like how quick (and rude) u r to point out when others are but when you are this is how you act.
Dkuhlmann
05/08/2015, 06:31 PM
Well I'm not wrong and I'm also going through things that you can't imagine. I don't need your BS to **** me off. ;) Got it????? So stop being a jerk and state your case insted of trying to prove me wrong, which I'm not. I've been into reef's for over 20 years. I just came back to them. I probably forgot more than you currently know. I'm more than happy to help anyone, but the way you came across was not cool.
I take it for granted that people know the basics and never go into it. I don't see any reason to do so. I'll say that if you cool your jets a bit and try and understand that someone might be going through a great deal of pain and getting ready to have their spine operated on, and out of work for 6 months to a year, then maybe you will get a farking clue. ;) Got it????
Lighten Up Francis :D
jrp1588
05/08/2015, 06:44 PM
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jminick2
05/09/2015, 08:47 AM
Well I'm not wrong and I'm also going through things that you can't imagine. I don't need your BS to **** me off. ;) Got it????? So stop being a jerk and state your case insted of trying to prove me wrong, which I'm not. I've been into reef's for over 20 years. I just came back to them. I probably forgot more than you currently know. I'm more than happy to help anyone, but the way you came across was not cool.
I take it for granted that people know the basics and never go into it. I don't see any reason to do so. I'll say that if you cool your jets a bit and try and understand that someone might be going through a great deal of pain and getting ready to have their spine operated on, and out of work for 6 months to a year, then maybe you will get a farking clue. ;) Got it????
Lighten Up Francis :D
Good luck with your surgery, Hope things get better.
Dkuhlmann
05/09/2015, 09:35 AM
Thank you :thumbsup:
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