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hotelbravo
05/01/2015, 08:42 PM
Will these two varieties mix well in the same system?

Stevenliu9
05/02/2015, 12:52 AM
Interesting question. I think the first question is do you have enough pods to sustain two dragonets?

hotelbravo
05/02/2015, 07:06 AM
Interesting question. I think the first question is do you have enough pods to sustain two dragonets?

Yes I do.

snorvich
05/02/2015, 07:18 AM
Yes I do.

A 90 gallon tank would not sustain two dragonets.

hotelbravo
05/02/2015, 07:55 AM
Ive got thousands in there I know the whole 1 pod every 5 seconds and 12 hour day average 8640 pods per day thing im aware on how much they consume. Ive got a refugium in my sump that is loaded with them and tons in my display. My current mandarin is eating frozen mysis, clam, brine, tiny chunks of squid, even pellets so he is not affecting the pod population as much as you would nornally have with a mandarin who isnt eating other foods. Even still I feel I could do it.

nikon187
05/02/2015, 05:14 PM
then why ask?? two dragonettes in a 90 g tank with refuge is still pushing it i couldnt keep mine in my 210 with my leopard wrasse who also eats everything under the sun. The answer you will hear most frequent is NO

snorvich
05/02/2015, 06:14 PM
The issue is that aquarists feed sporadically rather than continuously and dragonets eat continuously. All mandarins (that I have seen or kept) eat supplied food. If there are insufficient copepods, they starve long term.

hotelbravo
05/02/2015, 06:19 PM
Ive experienced housing a starving mandarin. I tried to keep one in a 30 gallon and ended up returning to the store when I saw signs of malnutrition. The mandarin is now in my lfs's display tank looking healthier than ever but thats off topic.
I feel that I could house enough pods for both and im not opposed to buying occasionally the 90$ 2qt bags of copepods from algaebarn that have approximately 12,000 pods in it.

rssjsb
05/02/2015, 06:28 PM
Ive experienced housing a starving mandarin. I tried to keep one in a 30 gallon and ended up returning to the store when I saw signs of malnutrition. The mandarin is now in my lfs's display tank looking healthier than ever but thats off topic.
I feel that I could house enough pods for both and im not opposed to buying occasionally the 90$ 2qt bags of copepods from algaebarn that have approximately 12,000 pods in it.which, by your earlier calculation would last for about a day and a half for one mandarin. I've tried the drill supplementing with live food for other pod-eaters (pipes, not mandarins, but the principle is the same). It gets expensive and tiresome.

There is also the issue, which I think was your original question, about whether these two will have territorial issues in a 90 gallon tank. I don't know and I hope someone answers.

Personally, I wouldn't push my luck on either front. You've gotten lucky to get a mandarin that eats other things. Dollars to donuts it's also eating pods, though. Your next one might not be so adaptable. But that's me.

Rollins4Miles
05/02/2015, 07:48 PM
then why ask?? two dragonettes in a 90 g tank with refuge is still pushing it I couldn't keep mine in my 210 with my leopard wrasse who also eats everything under the sun. The answer you will hear most frequent is NO

Agree with this. I housed a male mandarin in a 20g long for a bit over a year. I religiously dosed pods. Was he malnourished? No, not entirely. It was when I set up my 90g and moved him over that I noticed how much healthier he should have been. After a year I decided to add a female. They lasted well together for many months until the male starved. My experience - two mandarins will not last in a 90g.

I currently have a 220g that's been running for a few years. I've been wanting to add two mandarins for a while, but I'm still hesitant.

snorvich
05/02/2015, 08:37 PM
I think the OP should just do what he has already decided to do. Oh, and two males of different species will try to kill each other.

hotelbravo
05/02/2015, 09:14 PM
then why ask?? two dragonettes in a 90 g tank with refuge is still pushing it i couldnt keep mine in my 210 with my leopard wrasse who also eats everything under the sun. The answer you will hear most frequent is NO I didnt ask if I could keep two in my tank I asked if a spotted and a green mandarin can be housed in the same tank

I think the OP should just do what he has already decided to do. Oh, and two males of different species will try to kill each other.

I haven't decided to do it I just wanted to know if it was possible to have the two varieties. I have a female was looking for a male. I personally want to find a pair for every fish in my tank I love the whole finding a mate thing. Was just throwing the idea out there to see what was possible. Because the idea of it all is just so appealing.

MizTanks
05/02/2015, 09:31 PM
Yes you can keep the two together. Paul B keeps Green's and Ruby's together quit successfully.

hotelbravo
05/02/2015, 09:36 PM
I knew you could keep ruby dragonets with them just didnt know about the spotted mandarins

nikon187
05/03/2015, 04:04 PM
I didnt ask if I could keep two in my tank I asked if a spotted and a green mandarin can be housed in the same tank



I haven't decided to do it I just wanted to know if it was possible to have the two varieties. I have a female was looking for a male. I personally want to find a pair for every fish in my tank I love the whole finding a mate thing. Was just throwing the idea out there to see what was possible. Because the idea of it all is just so appealing.


Of course it s POSSIBLE, its possible to keep a clown tang and sohal together but 99% it wont work. Different reason but still wont work long term. Anyways yes two males of the different species WILL fight but a female spotter and psycadelic are possible IF sufficent live rock is avalible.

hotelbravo
05/03/2015, 04:25 PM
Of course it s POSSIBLE, its possible to keep a clown tang and sohal together but 99% it wont work. Different reason but still wont work long term. Anyways yes two males of the different species WILL fight but a female spotter and psycadelic are possible IF sufficent live rock is avalible.

I have a female not a male. The whole two males will fight is not constructive.

nikon187
05/03/2015, 05:11 PM
its called information, which people need to know. Yes they can coexist, but most cant keep multiple in the same tank. there question answered, if you feel they can then go for it.

hotelbravo
05/03/2015, 05:40 PM
Yea im not going to try it. After thinking about what yall have said long and hard Ill just look at trying to find a mate for my marine betta instead .
Sorry for how aggressive I came off

Bpb
05/04/2015, 09:54 AM
I asked the same question on another forum. Same size tank. Plentiful pods. I got the same responses. Kinda boils down to, it's your tank and you'll likely do what you want. I decided against it based on overwhelming and unanimous "no" as the recommendation.