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Jshelle01
05/02/2015, 02:53 PM
I have a 210 gallon tank (84" x 24" x 24") that I am setting up. I have a reef octopus 200 elite, dc12000 return pump, filter sock, 15 gallon refugium in sump and about 180 lbs of rock. I want thinking of the following stock of fish (in order of introduction):
2 occellerius clowns
1 six line wrasse
1 yellow eye Kole tang
1 blonde Naso tang
1 hippo tang
1 powder blue tang
1 yellow tang
3 ingitus anthias

Do you think this tank is large enough for these fish?? Any comments are welcome. Trying to do my best to have a good plan before starting up the system.

Reefstarter2
05/02/2015, 03:34 PM
yep should be fine

Dmorty217
05/02/2015, 03:51 PM
Pushing it for a Naso

DavidinGA
05/02/2015, 04:02 PM
Fine.

Jshelle01
05/03/2015, 05:15 AM
Thanks everyone. Any suggestions on the best methods to control ich outbreaks??

Dmorty217
05/03/2015, 06:43 AM
Thanks everyone. Any suggestions on the best methods to control ich outbreaks??

QT all fish

Jshelle01
05/03/2015, 08:43 AM
Do you just QT everything and treat everything with copper?? Or do you observe for a few weeks then if need add copper?

I have heard that 4 weeks is a good rule of thumb for QT time

Stevenliu9
05/03/2015, 09:08 AM
I think you have a good plan. Though with the tangs I'd still try to use acclimation box if possible

rssjsb
05/03/2015, 09:45 AM
Do you just QT everything and treat everything with copper?? Or do you observe for a few weeks then if need add copper?

I have heard that 4 weeks is a good rule of thumb for QT timeTake a look in the fish disease forum. 28 days should be long enough for ich to appear.

I'm not a fan of copper. It's tricky to maintain therapeutic levels that are still safe for fish. Some fish are very sensitive to it. I've lost angels and other fish due to this treatment. Even done correctly, it is harsh and can cause other bad effects. Worse still, some strains of ich are reportedly resistant to copper.

Tank transfer method is safer and will eliminate the risk of ich. Doing this from the start with every fish introduced will establish your DT as an ich-free zone . Doing this immediately with each new acquisition will take ich off the table as an on-going concern. You still need to watch the fish for other diseases following TTM and treat accordingly. Many people prophyllactically treat for flukes using prazipro following tank transfer. Chloroquine phosphate is less toxic than copper and can be used effectively for velvet.

ca1ore
05/03/2015, 09:48 AM
Six line can get very aggressive, and may limit any subsequent stocking choices. I keep a hippo, and have kept a Naso, in an 84" long tank and eventually they will outgrow it.

ca1ore
05/03/2015, 09:50 AM
I think you have a good plan. Though with the tangs I'd still try to use acclimation box if possible

Agreed! Though I've had a 'binary' experience with mine. It's either very helpful or completely useless. Unfortunately there's no way I've found to predict either outcome :lol:

Jshelle01
05/03/2015, 11:29 AM
What is the possible issues with the six line?? I have never heard anything negative about them.

rssjsb
05/03/2015, 11:38 AM
They can become very territorial and nasty once established, and make it very difficult to add new fish.

brett559
05/03/2015, 12:49 PM
You can do better than a six-line! Especially if that's your only wrasse. Look at a melanarus, or one of the flasher or fairy wrasses. A melanarus will control pests like a six-line, much cooler fish in my opinion.

Jshelle01
05/03/2015, 01:14 PM
That it exactly what I am looking for, a wrasse that will eat pests and will not grow over 3 or 4 inches. If a Melanuras is a more mellow than I will definitely look into that wrasse instead.

Jshelle01
05/03/2015, 01:17 PM
It must be reef safe and not eats snails,clams or cleaner shrimp

ca1ore
05/03/2015, 02:09 PM
It must be reef safe and not eats snails,clams or cleaner shrimp

In other words, you want a wrasse that will eat the things you want it to eat but not the things you don't want it to eat. :) good luck ...

Jshelle01
05/03/2015, 02:12 PM
Haha I guess that is not really possible. I have not read a lot about wrasses. Sounds like I have some reading to do before purchasing a wrasse. I appreciate the help. :)

ca1ore
05/03/2015, 02:29 PM
Wrasses are awesome. I have a dusky in my tank and he is amongst my favorites. He has grown rather large though, and while he eats lots of pests, my hermits are perpetually at risk. Is just the price one pays I suppose.

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