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bobafet1
05/04/2015, 12:33 PM
My rics are find but the standard red and bluish type mushrooms never seem to thrive in my tank. Any ideas why this would be the case?

I've seen some tanks at fish stores in which the mushrooms are the size of silver dollars. Mine don't ever seem to extend very far at all.

organism
05/04/2015, 01:16 PM
What's your lighting and alkalinity? I've had them do poorly due to low alk before, and they're not fans of light in the whiter spectrum.

bobafet1
05/04/2015, 01:24 PM
I'm using AI sol blue and have a kalk reactor

organism
05/04/2015, 03:29 PM
Did you have issues before the AI Sol? I had one and sold it due to them being notorious for really blasting that white spectrum, mushrooms hated it. I'm all fairness though I never tried to really dial it in, just wanted to go back to DIY.

Jason S
05/04/2015, 04:22 PM
Is that Imperator in your avatar in that tank? Have you seen him around them?

kegogut
05/04/2015, 07:07 PM
what are your parameters? Your normal shrooms tend to like water more on the "dirty" side.

organism
05/04/2015, 09:50 PM
what are your parameters? Your normal shrooms tend to like water more on the "dirty" side.

I've gotta disagree with that one, I have a ULN tank with vodka dosing and my mushrooms look great. That myth came about because while most other corals do poorly in dirty water, mushrooms (and zoanthids) do well there, so people took that to mean that mushrooms like dirty water instead of what it actually means: mushrooms and zoanthids are just more adaptable than most other corals.

bobafet1
05/04/2015, 10:46 PM
I don't have an Imperator. The one in my avatar was from years ago. I'll never buy one again. They don't belong in a fish tank, in my opinion (along with PB Tangs and other Angels).

If the white spectrum on my lights is the culprit will they bounce back if I dial them down?

kegogut
05/05/2015, 03:43 AM
I've gotta disagree with that one, I have a ULN tank with vodka dosing and my mushrooms look great. That myth came about because while most other corals do poorly in dirty water, mushrooms (and zoanthids) do well there, so people took that to mean that mushrooms like dirty water instead of what it actually means: mushrooms and zoanthids are just more adaptable than most other corals.

You can disagree if you like but from my experience I have to stand by my statement.

organism
05/05/2015, 11:03 AM
You can disagree if you like but from my experience I have to stand by my statement.

I find it so weird when people stand by things that are already proved wrong, check in the SPS forum and see how many people have ULN tracks with great looking rics and mushrooms. When we have experiences with things we tend to throw a correlation in there whether it's real or not, so it's important to be open minded about there being lots of other factors we didn't consider in order to prevent debunked hobby myths from spreading further. You owe it to both yourself and your fellow hobbyists to research this further than your own experience.

Wesus
05/05/2015, 12:29 PM
My rics are find but the standard red and bluish type mushrooms never seem to thrive in my tank. Any ideas why this would be the case?

I've seen some tanks at fish stores in which the mushrooms are the size of silver dollars. Mine don't ever seem to extend very far at all.

I have the same problem. After I moved mushrooms to my holding tank (with water from display tank) they looks better after two weeks. Only difference is flow and light

Jason S
05/05/2015, 01:38 PM
I agree with you on the Imperator... Good choice :)

As far as why they do not do well in your tank, it could be anything. It could be placement in the tank, water parameters, spectrum, light intensity, flow, something nibbling them, chemical warfare, or something simply irritating them. What do you have near them? What are your parameters? Where are they in the tank?

I have had the best luck with polyp extension and growth with a more blue spectrum, ultra low nutrients, and nearly perfect parameters. When I am in doubt, I look to nature for the answer. In nature, what are the parameters of the water that they are typically found in, and where do they grow in relation to sunlight, current, etc? What are their natural enemies, and do I have them?

SaltyWalter
05/13/2015, 10:03 PM
Are they in an area of med-high flow? Mushrooms in a dead zone I see replicate faster no matter what the nutrients. All left over food and fish poop settle out and feed them. I used to do maintinace on several tanks and thus was the case in all of them... It's just the replication of how they are found in nature.

650-IS350
05/14/2015, 04:59 PM
Rics, rhodactis and other shrooms do well for me. Yuma's on the other hand melt on me wihtin weeks of getting them. I just can't keep those alive, just like clown fish.

bobafet1
05/23/2015, 11:34 AM
I think I'm going to try putting them in a low flow area and see what happens.

uncleL
05/23/2015, 11:45 AM
All my mushrooms are in a shaded area with low flow except one and the are doing well. See my album for placement.

genetao
05/23/2015, 03:26 PM
I think I'm going to try putting them in a low flow area and see what happens.

If you're gonna move them into a lower flow area, You should also try a shadier area as well so they aren't blasted by your lights. That seem to have done the trick for me.

It took a few weeks before I noticed an improvement on my blue and red shrooms. But they were doing real well once I started spot feeding. I turned off any flow equipment (return, power head, filters, etc) for an hour while feeding.

I have a dexter shroom that was shrinking away, but once I did the above mentioned things, it's now tripled in size and doing great.

jasjenne
05/27/2015, 01:12 PM
what are your parameters? Your normal shrooms tend to like water more on the "dirty" side.

Mael
05/28/2015, 04:45 PM
agrred with the general rule of low flow and lower light, i have 1 exception in my tank and just think it is a random freak(purple/blue rhodactis at the top of the tank, but flow is still low)

all others definitely like the lower flow and medium light in my tank, rhods, discs, yuma/florida. I actually have most of them in the same "cove" infront of the rockwork.

Specifically for the OP, what do you mean when you say they dont thrive? Do they just stay small and shrivelled or melt away or detach?

bobafet1
06/01/2015, 04:27 PM
just thought I'd let ya'll know that it may be my lighting that's scaring the shrooms away. I've noticed a few in my tank growing well under my monti caps (shaded area). So, I'll make a point to place them in lower light areas.

Thanks everyone for chiming in.

MarlinHooker
06/16/2015, 06:32 PM
Did you have issues before the AI Sol? I had one and sold it due to them being notorious for really blasting that white spectrum, mushrooms hated it. I'm all fairness though I never tried to really dial it in, just wanted to go back to DIY.


don't think my shrooms got the memo on AI White Sols .... lol

I have 2 AI Sol whites & 2 Sol blues over my 150 and one of my purple shrooms grew so large it completly covered a 3" rock of Zoas so i had to move them ... I also have a 4" rock covered with green hairly mushrooms that believes they should be allowed to overgrow a 6" purple long tentacle plate coral next to them ...

to be fair, most of them are on the bottom but my Sols are at 65% max output during the peak of the day since I have a fair amount of SPS as well ...